Werewolf IX: the Saga Owns You and You Know It

[Shelob]

NIGHT 1

Enca dies...and Glirdan gets my llama (not happy)

NIGHT2

Night 2 proves this game could have gone very differently. It began with this

Glirdan shouldn't leave a trail that leads to us, and we can then cast some suspicion on the innocent based on who he thought was guilty after we kill him toNight

Which is just an entertaining note because had we gone with that plan I'd bet we wouldn't have won. However we chose TGWBS solely because he wasn't really associated with us and would almost certainly get a bluff/double-bluff going. A risk, but one which ended up working. (And he was the hunter, that surprised me and undoubtably my fellow wolves)


NIGHT 3

Thanks to Menel suggesting him Phantom come up quickly as someone worth killing. Finally though I think we ended up killing him for this

Read all the posts written by the five people on your primary suspect list. One of them says something that should make you reconsider where you have placed them (too high or too low, I won't say which, and I won't say who either- I'm hoping you will catch it but that the furry fiends won't- if you think you have found what I am talking about then give me a little wink, but don't revise your list because that would be too obvious).

and this

We shall see who they kill tonight. I have an idea of who I would kill if I was a wolf- I will see if the wolves do what I would do. If they don't, and instead kill someone entirely random (someone who has barely posted and hasn't said much in the way of suspicions), then we will have to rethink the way we are thinking about this particular group of beasts (and realize that catching the first one might be a bit tough).

If I was a wolf, I would not have killed Alca or tgwbs because the two of them were sure to be attacking each other in the future. Wolves want to keep people around who have their eyes on each other because they are sure to stir up suspicion against each other- and wolves love having suspicious people around. It makes it easier to hide.

The first because we feared he caught something Wilwa said that would prove her a wolf and the second because we couldn't figure out what he meant. I personally felt the second of those was some kind of test, on the assumption he had a good idea who the werewolves were and would either prove or disprove his theory by their kill. By killing him we insured that he couldn't explain what he meant/what he was refering to. Problem Solved. (Though for the record we all thought Holby was the seer)


NIGHT 4

Shortest night's worth of discussing yet. 5 PMs. In short: Saucepan Man was too dangerous to keep around, and the ranger was almost certainly protecting Nilp so we should wait to kill Nilp.


NIGHT 5

Nilp. This one's really easy though, since we figured that the Ranger had protected Nilp the night after he'd announced himself to be the other sherrif we reasoned that he'd be free to kill tonight (though we did check to make sure Rangers couldn't protect the same person two nights in a row), which means this Death actually took longer/more PMs than SPMs death.

NIGHT 6

Pretty much decided without me, on the basis that since either Durelin or Cailín would be good kills and Durelin would leave less of a trail.



I think that's all our reasoning. Menel, Wilwa, feel free to add anything I might have forgotten.

when they get the time to explain their wiliness to us.

If you're expecting an over-arching plan, good luck...we kinda discussed strategy on the first NIGHT, before we really had a feel for how the game would go. But once we were into it things just kinda happened. Menel and I got into the habit of accusing each other. I voted for him originally, I believe, because I figured after having agreed to his suspiciousness voting elsewise would cry "WOLVES". Once we thought about it though we did realize that by continuing this the death of either of us would render the other 'innocent' and would almost certainly guarantee Kath's death. And Wilwa just did whatever she wanted, which worked well for her.



Thanks everyone, I enjoyed this game a ton. Glad we could give you all a good chase (and, were I to judge, a fair number of headaches).

[Meneltarmacil]

We actually decided (I think it was Wilwa's idea) that it would be a good idea to throw you off track by killing those who defended us. And it seems to have worked, too.

Oh, and by the way, I kept saying "Kill The Saucepan Man" until he was actually dead, since I figured he'd probably pull out some kind of scheme involving mass-lynchings or something at the end and get a lot of people to follow him.

[wilwarin538]

One of the reasons I wanted to kill phantom was cause of his little comment to Saucy, I thought that tp had caught what I said here:

I don't think the phantom is the Cobbler. Even if he is though, he isn't a threat to us now, in a few Days where the cobbler could start to become a threat then I think the phantom would be most peoples first choice, not mine mind you. I don't think we should lynch someone who could have good ideas, just incase he is innocent. At this point I have no idea. Bergil is really the only one I could vote for, Wayne is still a possibility though.

I realised much later that it sounds like I said I wouldn't vote for the cobbler. So yeah I though he had found me out. Wait....had you?

By the way, I remember someone posting all three of are names(us wolves) and saying that eather we were all innocent or we were all guilty. I remember thinking how funny it was. If anyone remembers posting it or knows where it is can you indicate it to me. It would make a great sig.


Also, right before people started to vote for Wayne the day he was lynched I found this post of his:

I doNt think were doing to wEll cause we lost are seeR. I think that these people Are werewolfs. gliRdan Gil and menel.

If you rearange the capitols it spelles RANGER. After that I went along with lynching him. Sorry lil' bro.

[Folwren]

If you rearange the capitols it spelles RANGER. After that I went along with lynching him. Sorry lil' bro.

Did he do that on purpose, so you suppose? I'd never even considered...

I was expecting you to be killed the night you were, Saucey. The way the wolves were going around slaughtering people at night, I figured your turn had come...being the next loud one.

As for him mentioning a mass lynching and pulling it through, I entertained the thought several times. But I didn't think I coudl get people to do it, since no one believed me to be innocent (which I was, haha!) But I never did. So we lost anyway.

-- Folwren

[the phantom]

Made more entertaining by the fact we didn't have any idea he was the Seer.

That's what I figured- and now I ask why, oh why, did you kill me?

Generally, if you don't kill the seer by Night 3 you will be walking on thin ice after that, so wolves should always be trying to kill the seer. You're lucky that I just happened to be the seer.

Heh- I remember telling Enca at the beginning of the game that it was a bad idea for me to be the seer because I'm the type of person that everyone wants to kill. Well, it turns out I was right.

I played exactly the way I wanted to. The wolves did not think I was the seer. That was the ultimate goal. The way I figured it, the wolves would be trying to kill the seer, and thus if I did not appear to be the seer I would be spared during the night.

You see, I assumed the wolves would be extremely methodical in their kills rather than feeling things out with their gut.

But the gut approach was the way to go in this game because I seem to be someone who your gut always tells you to kill right away for some reason.

Though for the record we all thought Holby was the seer

And you still killed me. Grrr. I played my part well, got a bead on the wolves and dreamed of one of them, but then I was dead and couldn't tell anyone.

I knew it was a bad idea for me to be the seer. Some things just aren't meant to be.

The night I died, my dream was about Shelob. I picked her for reasons that I will explain in my post-game entry on my website. My post-game entry will also tell what every comment I made meant, why I said it, why I said it the way I did, and what I was hoping to accomplish.

I'll post the link later (when I'm done with the write-up). I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you like talking strategy. There will be quite a bit in there for you, Saucy.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

Well played everyone! (especially wolves!) It was so much fun to read. But I must say that being one of Shelob's best friend's during her werewolf playing is trying. She is mightily obsessive about werewolf (part of the reason I think the wolves did so well this game.) But Menel, killing the Phantom! Brilliant! I thought that was the best kill of the game. And Wilwa, congratulations on being so secretive, you stayed off of everyone's list, including mine! (And I knew you were a wolf...)

Very well played to you all.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I accused the phantom of being the bear before I became temporarily omniscient. What a ruse that first day post of his would have been...

As I was reading the thread (post omniscience) I was chatting with Encai about who was making silly errors and what was funniest.

I couldn't believe that the phantom lasted as long as he did. I'd have attacked him early, and even if not, I'd certainly keep tabs on him and nail him as soon as he started voicing things that made it look like he was gifted. I also couldn't understand why he seemed to trust Saucie so much. I had to outright forbid myself to PM him and ask "What makes you think he's trustworthy?" because of course he was, but those sorts of curious questions could sway games unintentionally. So now, tp, why the heck did you trust him?

Glirdan, nice playing. Wolves... beautiful.

Encai... fantastic mod-job. Thanks for letting me kill off a politician. That relieves stress like you wouldn't believe.

[Encaitare]

Originally Posted by Fea

Encai... fantastic mod-job. Thanks for letting me kill off a politician. That relieves stress like you wouldn't believe.

My pleasure. I still have to draw you, by the way... I'm not exactly sure what to do with ye...