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Old 09-18-2005, 06:52 AM   #1
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"I quite agree. Someone in that list has to be a wolf. La seul problem est de trouver qui. The only problem is to find out who."
Almost the entire population is on that list... I don't think that will be particularly helpful.

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I think you are underestimating us now. What we say and what we think may be two different things. And it's not babbling we want to hear but some reasonable opinions.

If people step forth only to say that they're confused or that they feel sorry for Wilwa, we get nowhere.
I'm underestimating no one, rest assured, but I thought Celuien was a bit too pushy about being vocal. Some people might have nothing more to say than being confused and scared right now and I actually think that's very reasonable behavior in this situation. Not all of us are like the phantom and need a crisis to make the most of ourselves. Though I suppose that would be convenient.

Reasonable opinions? At this stage? Well, I think it's fairly safe to say it's a little early (and too distressing) to be reasonable. But I shall give it my best shot.

Since we shall have to end even this first day by lynching someone, we will have every chance to kill an innocent tonight. As has been said before, but I have quite forgotten by whom in all the confusion, it would neither be wise to

1) Kill someone who seems to make sense in a helpful way, know what they're talking about, makes valid points and has some interesting ideas as to which way we should go about this.
2) Kill someone who has said nothing alarming and whose death would be of little help, information-wise.
3) Vote all for the same person

I have so far failed to put all villagers in either the first or the second category. I have no real suspicions whatsoever. But I think this might be the most sensible way of settling this gruesome affair.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:06 AM   #2
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Kuru,

Gil-galad is certainly acting odd to me, but it's very possible he's not a wolf as you say. He could just be acting strange.
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bah... i felt something special with her ya know? she wasn't like all the other girls ya know? well its all horrible...so Kitanna, what are you doing tonight?~Gil-galad, Post #11
He shows some remorse for Wilwarin, but gets passed it and quickly moves on to Kitanna. This displays that Gil-galad is heartless, and after all Werewolves are heartless too. However, you're right in that Gil-galad could be a heartless werewolf preying on another victim, or simply a heartless person with the only desire to hit on women. Indeed his behavior is always odd. It could just be that he's a womanizer that's only morals are to get women.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:16 AM   #3
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If no one has heard I'm going to be off at work until 6 pm. It's way to early for me to cast a decision now and vote, I'll be back probably by 6:30 (votings done at 7 for me I think) or so, where I can weigh in on what's been said and make my decision then. Good luck.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:55 AM   #4
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He shows some remorse for Wilwarin, but gets passed it and quickly moves on to Kitanna. This displays that Gil-galad is heartless, and after all Werewolves are heartless too. However, you're right in that Gil-galad could be a heartless werewolf preying on another victim, or simply a heartless person with the only desire to hit on women. Indeed his behavior is always odd. It could just be that he's a womanizer that's only morals are to get women.
"I honestly don't think there is any harm in Gil. I think he's simply a heartless person who only wants to get women. It is possible he's a wolf but I would suspect Kuru before him." Glirdan said as he drank the rest of his drink. "I'm sorry Kuru but as I've said before, our town was peaceful before you came with the faire. And there was no need to be so defensive when I said we should keep an eye on you. The way you defended yourself was as if you were hiding a dirty, little, furry secret." he said as he turned towards Kuru at her(?) private table.

"I'm sorry folks but I have to step out until late tonight." Boro said as he came in from around back. "You'll have to clear out for the time being."

"Ok my friend. My money's on the table. If you all want to hear more form me, I'll be in the square, contemplating on our desperate situation." With that, Glirdan arose and walked out of the little café.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:18 AM   #5
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First of all, I'm a he (I would think the overabundance of beard would be a dead give away )

"Second," Kuruharan turned to address the room, "I'm beginning to wonder about these people who take something that is patently a joke meant to help pass the time and make it the subject of and evidence in repeated statements. There is absolutely no basis for building a case on such a comment that couldn't happen in practical reality anyway. It puts me in mind of something I said earlier of hoping the villagers have some substance to their comments. What Glirdan has been doing is the dictionary definition of 'non-substantive.' I have to ask myself why. I think this is something that everybody should ponder.

Now, I'd like to order my lunch that will look suspiciously like breakfast. French toast, please. And don't skimp on the syrup."
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:39 AM   #6
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Glirdan walked back into the café just as Kuru was finishing his theory. "So, are you all going to start thinking I'm a wolf for, as Kuru kindly put it, giving non-substantive theories?" Glirdan asked the room. "I can tell you now and for a fact that I'm innocent. Of course the only way you'd be able to find that out would be to lynch me, but then you'd all be terribly sorry because you would have lynched one of your own. I have no actual evidence that you are a wolf," he said to Kuru. " Who here has evidence that any of us is a wolf, unless it be the Seer. But we have to start somewhere and the best place to start is to go back to when all the trouble began, which was when you came with your faire." He then turned to Cailin. "Give me something stronger than my usual please." Everyone stared at him as he went and sat in the cornere of the café.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:47 AM   #7
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I've been working on a list of villagers whom I think we should not lynch toDAY, and it looks pretty similar to the phantom's, with the addition of The Perky Ent, who seems like he's being pretty genuine.

Categories are as follows:

Either most likely innocent or otherwise good to keep around for now:
the phantom
Anguirel
Boromir88
Kuru
Dancing Spawn
The Perky Ent


Talkative villagers I'm not sure what to think of yet:
Glirdan
Calin
Márcolië
Lalaith
Kitanna


Villagers who haven't said enough to sway me in either direction:
Gil-Galad
Eonwe
Wayne the Goblin
Azaelia


I think that accounts for everyone.

From the second list, I'm most inclined to suspect Glirdan. His comments struck me the same way as they did Kuru, especially since I think would be unwise to eliminate Kuru so early. However, I'm not particularly inclined to vote for him yet just on the basis of those comments. We're all stabbing in the dark right now, which is why I don't find the accusation cause for that much alarm.

Gil-Galad could merely be a "heartless womanizer" but it strikes me as odd that he hasn't replied to my questions yet. I'm awaiting his response...
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:11 AM   #8
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I think Dancing Spawn brings up some good points against Marcolie and am interested in hearing more from him (right?)
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it would neither be wise to...Kill someone who seems to make sense in a helpful way, know what they're talking about, makes valid points and has some interesting ideas as to which way we should go about this.
Which is why I do not believe Spawn should be up for lynching today.

Not that she was under any serious suspicion- but I'm going to be leaving for quite a while and I wanted to make sure before I left and give my opinion on a couple of people who should not be lynched today.

As I said earlier, Kuru should not be lynched. He would make a valuable ally for the village, not to mention he is a strategic thinker like me, and so while he would be tough to spot as a wolf, I think that I would have an easier time spotting him than someone who behaved in a completely random manner, simply because his thought processes are similar to mine.

I would also not lynch Boromir here on this first day. Like Kuru and Spawn, he opens his mouth plenty and so gives away plenty of information to work with. He is a good thinker and has a bit of experience under his belt.

The same goes for Anguirel, though he's not exactly acting helpful so far, what with his bank robbing and all.

I believe we should nominate two or three candidates from one of these groups-
1) the crowd that is likely to give us no indication of their thoughts and not say much
2) the crowd that acts in a confusing manner (confusion is a friend of the wolves) and is likely to vote and accuse in an illogical manner

Does this make sense to everyone?

I certainly hope so.

I have things that I need to do now, but I will try and pop in quickly in the early afternoon to see how things are and then again before the voting is over.
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