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Old 09-18-2005, 01:15 PM   #1
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Ok I've looke through the posts and here's my further thoughts.

I agree with Kuru in that we should not decide to lynch Azaelia today. I think there's probably some reasoning for her not being here, other than she's a wolf. I think we should keep her on our watch list, but seeing as she's not here right now and we haven't heard from her, I'm in no position so say she's a wolf.

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For example, imagine if Kuruharan, Phantom, and Boromir were the wolves! Imagine! I'm not trying to insinuate anything~Perky
No offense taken, it's a reasonable feeling. You want to trust those who try to get things figured out and see who our culprits are. I hope my innocence will be shown in the days to come.

I don't know the reason behind Kuru and phantom in trying to steer opinion, but mine is quite simple. We need to find what the wolves strategies are and I'm trying to help in doing that. I simply offering ideas in what possibly wolves would do, you may either take it or leave it. And I suggest that if you think you got better ideas than please bring them up. Working as a colaborate group can get us through this.

Now my thoughts of course anyone could be a werewolf, you can't trust anyone at this point. Only the Seer can find out who's innocent and who's not. But here's what I think so far.

I'm not too suspicious of Perky, Phantom, Kuru, or Spawn at this point. My reasoning is I don't think the wolves would jump out of the gate early. I think they would tend more to lay back and try to sort of tag along to people, as long as they aren't the one's being suspected or are in danger. Though, I'm not saying none of the above aren't wolves, but right now I feel pretty safe that the ones above aren't wolves.

As I said, I think wolves would like to tag along in the beginning. Not saying much, just kind of going along with what everyone says. Now the problem is these could be wolves tagging along, or could be a villager that buy's into what others say. So right now, a little more suspicious, yet nothing really concrete or definite...

Kitanna
Lalaith
Celuien
Cailin
Azaelia
Marcolie, I buy what she has recently said as of right now.

So that leaves Gil-galad, Wayne, and Glirdan. These right now our my most suspicious, and even if they are, it does not mean they're a guaranteed lock for my vote. There's still a lot of day left and this early on I'm unsure about anything. For reasons I've stated prior and others that have been said.

Ok, that catches up on what I think about the events when I was gone.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:24 PM   #2
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I am sorry I havent posted that much I had to go to church.I have no suspicons yet but I growing more and more sucpicous of gil.Why because of he post he put he was sad about wilwa then he started talking about kitana.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:03 PM   #3
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White-Hand Playing a hunch

I don't have time to wait anymore.

++CAILIN

I'm sure this will make me look terrible if she is lynched and found innocent, but I have to go with my instinct here.

And let me say one thing. If I were a wolf, I wouldn't have made myself as prominent as I have. It's too dangerous a position to be in. Just look at the number of people who have now included me on their high suspicion list.

At least I don't think I'm being bland.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:22 PM   #4
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I see dancing spawn has choosen to vote for Glirdan which I hope no one will hold against me as I cast my vote...
++ Glirdan

I voiced earlier today that I found his often fiery defense a little unnerving. Whenever someone mentioned him as one of their suspects he would jump on it in minutes crying his innocence from the mountain. It seems strange to me that an innocent would do something like that. There is nothing wrong with a person saying they are innocent, but one well thought out defense should be enough on Day One.

Also Glirdan posts often (not as often as others though) but unlike the other people who post often he says little. I believe he had one relatively helpful post in the middle, but most of his others have been "I'm innocent!" "Don't lynch me because I am innocent!" and "How can you accuse me like this?" Quite frankly it has me worried.

Maybe he is just a paranoid villager or maybe he's a paranoid wolf. There's only one way to find out and I have a gut feeling he's a wolf.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:45 PM   #5
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Hmmm...I too find Glirdan's defensiveness suspicious but I've taken on board all the advice about not bandwaggoning. What I've noticed also is a bit of a Perky/Glirdan alliance. So, spreading the votes according to approved village strategy:

++Perky Ent
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:46 PM   #6
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Time to jump on the Glirdan band wagon. Just kidding. Unlike Kitanna and Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant, I think that Glirdan is merely just at the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong things. He does not strike me as one of the lupine, but just someone who got off on the wrong foot. My suspicion of Boromir grew when I heard
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Seems pretty fair. But at the same time, do we want to place our future in the hands of what could be a powerful trio? I keep seeing the image of a Wolf jump from behind a cafe counter and terrorize the villagers. At the same time, I believe strategy is a key part of this game, and if we are lost, there is little hope. I'm not moving either way in terms of Boromir, Phantom, and Kuruharan. I'm just going to keep a close eye on them. Wayne and Marcolie I believe are nothing more than ordos.
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Hmm...wait a minute. Could there be a hidden message? I'm fairly confident that Glirdan will not survive the terrors of Tinseltown alive. However, after reading his statement about killing him if you dont' like him, I thought of something. What if he wants to die? Well why would anyone want to die? Here's a thought (hypothetical, of course): Glirdan is the cursed villager. He's a nice person, and he want's to be lynched so he doesn't end up killing us all. It's a stretch, but always a possibility. Well, I must b e off. Eru willing, i will be back before 6.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:52 PM   #7
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Here's a thought (hypothetical, of course): Glirdan is the cursed villager.
The cursed villager doesn't know they're cursed and even so lynching the cursed villager will yield nothing. They die and that's that. It only works when the wolves kill them during the night.
So even if Glirdan was the cursed villager he wouldn't want the village to lynch him.
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Perky, a point of information: the cursed villager doesn't know that he's cursed.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:08 PM   #9
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Cailin is starting to make me uneasy, mostly because she seems determined to cast suspicion in my direction. Not to beat a dead horse, but the only thing Cailin has to accuse me of is asking everyone to participate in the discussion, and she seems to keep pressing the issue even though I've clarified and explained my position multiple times.
I have no intention at all to cast suspicion in your direction particularly, but more away from me. Not because I'm a hiding wolf, but because I'm an innocent who does not want to be lynched yet, because I think I might be able to help out.

I do not keep pressing the issue, which I am sure you concluded from what I said as a reaction to Kuru. I only meant this is why I found you alarming at first, and why I from then onwards kept a close eye on you. I understand this seems harsh if you are indeed innocent. It's only too easy to suspect those who suspect ourselves.

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But still, you are the first of us to actually make a list, which I suppose is only to be praised.
Backhanded praise if ever I saw it. I'd also like to point out that there were a few lists out there at the time, although mine was the first to have categories. I'm also curious to know how she reconciles the statement that I'm the first to do anything with her later statement
It was meant as praise indeed. I thought it to be a bold move for a wolf to categorise so soon, so even though I suspected you at first, I did not quite find you as wolfish here as I did before.

I did ask whether you were a she Too bad you felt the need to vote for me, so I hope you will really, really regret it when I am lynched and turn out to be innocent.

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Defenses aside:

Anguirel - very unhelpful up till now. Even if we lynch him and he does not turn out to be a wolf, he probably deserves it anyway, looking at his criminal record.

Azealia of Willowbottom - where are you, sweetie?

Boromir88 - My much beloved boss seems to be smart enough for his own good. The village wants him to live, and I shall not dare arguing with that. Indeed, we need our strategists alive.

Cailín - loveable, trustworthy, what more can I say?

Celuien - Much associated with me at the moment, probably due to the phonetical similarity of our names. Distrusts me, so naturally I am inclined to distrust her. However, I have yet to find anything conclusive against her.

Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant - I find myself agreeing with most of her posts. Does that make her innocent?

Eonwe - Too silent. Far too silent.

Gil-Galad - He's acting weird and suspicious, but really, when isn't he? For now, he gets the benefit of the doubt. Womanizer's are always shady characters, by default.

Glirdan - Loud and suspicious. I should not have given him so much to drink. Still, he has already gathered two votes, so I shan't be voting for him, to stay true to the plan we made.

Kitanna - She is not really on my radar yet. Besides, I like cats, too.

Kuruharan - Greedy fellow, but in a smart, sensible way. He called me bland, but seems to share my feelings on lynching Azaelia. Right now, he's not really a candidate for the gallows.

Lalaith - Has not said too much and votes Perky. That sounds reasonable and will not attract much suspicion. Which makes me think it should.

Márcolië Lamen - I was pleasantly surprised by her later words. She seems very eager to get a grasp on the situation and I think we should give her that chance.

The Perky Ent - What can I say, perky? Though I voiced suspicions of him earlier, I do believe he might just be enthusiastic.

the phantom - our resident drunk has really undergone a transformation today. I am anxious to see the decent side of him, so I shall abide by the wishes of my fellow villagers and not start a lynch-the phantom campaign just yet.

WaynetheGoblin - Another one who is too silent. Privilege of the rich, perhaps?

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Old 09-18-2005, 03:19 PM   #10
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The votes put glirden in the lead.I will pobely vote for hin later.He is one of the biggist posters on this thread.
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:20 PM   #11
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I haven't really had anything to say of any value. wouldn't it look wrose to just start agreeing with everyone? the truth is (maybe im just inexperience or being played for a fool), i havn't really been able to find to much of suspicion from anyone. I think most people (including myself) are playing their cards close to their chests. I don't know if i will vote at all today, because what good is a stab in the dark, especially if you don't even know what general direction your taret lies. We shall see, though.

P.S. The RPG stuff was kind of confusing, i couldn't make out what was jest, in character, and serious stuff
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Old 09-18-2005, 03:27 PM   #12
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I think my time to vote is drawing near as well. I've had nothing change in my thoughts since the last post, so...

++Gil-galad

He may just be acting odd, but hasn't come out and defended himself and for me seems to be the best choice.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:45 PM   #13
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White Tree hmm..what to think

I agree with all of those saying that Zali shouldn't be lynched yet. She hasn't said anything either way so on the first day she shouldn't be the one lynched unless it is necessary.

Looking through the list of people some jump out as to those who have posted alot...and noticable posts....bolded

1.Anguirel
2.Azealia of Willowbottom
3.Boromir88
4.Cailěn
5.Celuien

6.Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant

7.Eonwe
8.Gil-Galad
9.Glirdan

10.Kitanna

11.Kuruharan

12.Lalaith
13.Márcolië Lamen
--obviously I recognize myself posting so not saying anything.
14.The Perky Ent
15.the phantom

16.WaynetheGoblin


I think at least one of these who are here the most is a wolf, out of the idea of keeping one active and others not so much so.

At the same time, I think at least one of the others is also a wolf.

Those italisized are those who according to others have been really tagging along so far. These are slightly suspicious actions always. Again, I think one is a wolf. I'm including myself even though I know myself to be innocent because otherwise I fit in the catagory.

Underlining those I am slightly more suspicious than the others, especially for a first day... these reasons include


Anguirel- unhelpfulness
Cailěn and Celuien- manage to be bland but also argue. Seems like they could be working together or one could be taking advantage of the other
Glirdan-strong defence of self, seems to be jumping at oppertunities
WaynetheGoblin- low apperence


Nothing about who I'm voting for is locked up but here is my thoughts as of now.

Because it is the first day its important to keep all those strong stratagists I think, its worth risking they're a wolf for at least one night because its a pull out of the hat and if they're villagers then they're the most helpful later on.

Beyond that, no ideas on who to vote to lynch, lets see how it plays out...too bad we must lynch one of our own before having idea of who it is doing this atrocity to us, unless we can manage to find one we'll just be bringing our own numbers down, and this seems too likely tonight.

edit: just mentioning cross-posted with spawn and wayne
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