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Old 10-02-2005, 05:55 PM   #1
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When does voting end, ya'll? Aren't we cutting this a little close? I'm not going to be able to get on tonight, so, unfortunately I have to vote now, without any real suspisions.

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I voted for gurthang today so that if he gets killed I will vote for thin the next day.
But, Wayne, there's no reason given behind either of those choices. Little hasty, no? I'm afraid, because it's not productive to have people just accuse others at random, with no thought process going into it, even on day 1, I think it's too costly to have Wayne around.

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Old 10-02-2005, 06:27 PM   #2
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:41 PM   #3
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Mmmmm, five votes cast, two for Wayne, one for Gurthang, and two for Fea.

Wayne- Despite what Jack seems to think I do not want to vote for Wayne. I was just curious why it was Gurthang and not Thin. Of course I find his voting unusual, but everyone's going to look unusual today. I am pretty positive I will not be voting for Wayne.

Gurthang- I have a thing against voting for people who haven't spoken on day one. Of course if a day or two goes by I would be willingly to put in a vote for Gurthang or Thin, but not today.

Fea- Fea has voted for herself...mmmm interesting, but then again not so. Fea is good at a double bluff, but then again papers on Shakespeare do tend to take up mass amounts of people's time. Maybe she does need to get out. But Fea can be helpful and should live past the first day (even if Shakespeare is trying to draw her out.)

So those are so far the ones who have been voted for. The only people I truly suspect are those who have voted already, but I don't want to act on that. The reasons I have are shallow and pointless. So I'll think things over and put in a vote soon.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:33 PM   #4
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I know I'm innocent, but I also know that I'm expendable. I also know that I have a five page paper to write before Tuesday, and half of a Shakespearean play to read before tomorrow. Which means that I have to vote now. And since I'd rather accidentally be lynched than accidentally lynch the seer, I won't act on my random and factless suspicions...

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Old 10-02-2005, 06:41 PM   #5
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I know I'm innocent, but I also know that I'm expendable. I also know that I have a five page paper to write before Tuesday, and half of a Shakespearean play to read before tomorrow. Which means that I have to vote now. And since I'd rather accidentally be lynched than accidentally lynch the seer, I won't act on my random and factless suspicions...

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now thats just silly! ! !

If this is the way you are going to vote everytime, we will never get anywere. If you are, as you claim inocent then you are not expendable. Why oh why would you insist on doing the wolves job for them?

I hope this atitude changes before long. I for one does not think that you are an wolf (although you have been giving some quite interesting comments during this first day) and therefore would hate to se you go.

I will hold on to my vote for a little bit.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:54 PM   #6
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I did not say that I wanted to die, or that I want to do the wolves' jobs for them.

My idea is that we do not know what we are doing on day one, except for the wolves. They have a plan. Since I do not know what that plan is, nor have any clues to use to piece it together, I am not worrying about it until tomorrow. The seer is obviously not going to show his/herself (PS: for the love of Glirdan, don't do it until at least a few days from now!), so I feel no particular confidence in my ability right now to guess who it is and avoid accidentally killing him or her.

Since, as I said, I don't want to accidentally kill the Seer, I'm going to do what is still bad, but what is marginally less so, and vote for myself, rather than cast suspicion onto somebody else whose death would harm us so much more.

Also, guilty as this may sound, it means that if you guys screw up, it's not my fault.
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:02 PM   #7
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um feanor, don't you think there is some better alternative than suicide. i mean, if nothing else works, you could at least drown your problems in alcoholic beverages. no need to go overboard. cumon, come down off the railing. you really don't want to do this.

that is a little weird, unless she just wants out cause she's two busy. anyway, we'll have to see what becomes of our dear girl's antics... (cross post with some people: rune makes a good point fea)

unless i miscounted, votes stand as:

Wayne: 2
Feanor: 2
Gurthang:1

my innicial reacitons are not to suspect anyone. i can't see any clearcut evidence on the field anywere pointing in any direction. we will prolly, actually almost certainly (this is our worst day, statistically-wise 3 in waht 15 makes one in five, or something), so don't jump all over people. all anyone has is a stab in the dark, and the worst chance we will have all game. so i think that has been voiced by some peole already, just wanted to add my two cents/stamp of aproval

i, like many, seemingly, do not really have any suspicions at the time. feanor is the only one i can see any dirt on. but under no circumstances will i vote for her becuase she has supplied a real life reason and i am willing to let it go at that; for now at least so yeah those are my thoughts for now, ill prolly write up a more revalent post later on tonight/ this Evening
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:14 PM   #8
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Well I'm back and the situation has changed a lot. I've gone through all thats been done and said and have formed my own suspicions as to who is what. I won't vote yet because I'm not certain but if needed I shall vote to keep Feanor from killing herself. I just feel that shouldn't be done. Wayne may be one of them but in my eyes there isn't enough reason to openly balme anybody yet.
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:34 PM   #9
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I advise people not to vote for Feanor. She's likely an innocent, with this sudden leap into things. We don't have people to spare.
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:49 PM   #10
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I'm sorry I'm so late. I've been holed up at my house trying to write my new song. (aka on the road all day.) I've just been working so hard that I just came out and couldn't find anyone, until I showed up here and found out what happened. This is terrible.

Maybe I should play something in Glirdan's honor: *walks over to piano and plays a few lines* Well, I know that wasn't near enough, but it looks like we have work to do. I haven't had a chance to read through everything, so I'll do that then cast my vote before the end of the day.

I only hope that my absence hasn't gotten me into trouble.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:00 PM   #11
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Folks...I don't want to vote tonight. I really don't. Therefore, I will not. I do not think that Gurthang, Wayne, or Feanor are guilty. I will not vote for any one of them, therefore. I can not prove that anyone else is guilty. I have no real arguments against anyone, therefore I will not even pretend that I think someone is possible a wolf. (Besides saying that Sleepy Ranger for some reason gets my doubts. Still, there is nothing behind that, so I won't try to support it.)

Don't lynch Feanor.

(Oh, by the way, Fea, considering that you have to get everything done by Tuesday, and also considering that tomorrow, being Monday, is a NIGHT and not a DAY, and being an innocent you won't be doing anything tomorrow, I don't think that your five page paper should induce you to commit suicide. It was really brainless, if you ask me.)

In my humble opinion, Wayne should probably be the one to go. But I'm not voting for him, because although (out of the present candidates for lynching) he would be the best choice, I can not put my hand into lynching an innocent.

Good luck, all.

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Old 10-02-2005, 08:01 PM   #12
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Cross posted with Eonwe, and I have only one thing to say...

My name is Jack.

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Old 10-02-2005, 08:08 PM   #13
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Old 10-02-2005, 07:52 PM   #14
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ok well then. five of thirteen have voted. we have some time left before 10:30 so lets not rush into lynching anyone. ( )

i have no idea how to vote. like folwren said, i would councel against voting fea, and wayne for that matter. i don't think them innocent. but we have to vote and lynch someone... erggh. and gurthang doesn't really stick out in my mind one way or the other.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:24 PM   #15
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I was thinking the ectsact same thing, only Feanor has been frank enough to speek openly of her suspisions.
Once you've been around Fea for any amount of time at all you soon realize that her middle name is 'frank.' And that's definitly not always a bad thing.

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Oh that'd be fun.

Fea seems to be the focus of a lot of today's discussion. Personally, I think she could be helpful to the villagers if she's not a wolf. She's already pointed out some good reminders including this:

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The seer is obviously not going to show his/herself (PS: for the love of Glirdan, don't do it until at least a few days from now!),
I definitly second that, it can't be stressed enough. It doesn't matter if you have already dreamed of a wolf, don't show yourself for at least a few days. Hints would be nice, but if it comes down to hinting unsubtly or not hinting at all-don't hint at all.
I may look like a wolf trying to keep the seer from dropping hints before I can kill him/her but oh well.

I'd like to see Fea stick around for a few more DAYS at least, even if her posts would be fewer & farther between than normal.

Hmm, nine minutes to vote. I don't see anyone entirely suspicious. The way I understand the bylaws of the village that we threw together hastly, if no one breaks the tie between Wayne & Fea Wayne will be lynched because he was voted for first.

I should be posting again soon with my vote.

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Old 10-02-2005, 08:29 PM   #16
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++ Eonwe for completely baseless reasons. In fact, it's completely random-I don't plan on voting the same way next DAY.

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Old 10-02-2005, 08:30 PM   #17
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Votings closed. You had to give me a double. Lucky, It'll just be Wayne tonight. Excpect his death shortly.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:39 PM   #18
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Everyone decided that Wayne was a wolf. They took Wayne from his baysitting job and tied a rope around his hands, but he didn't complain. "He must be a wolf. He's not saying anything to defend himself."

"He's right!! If Wayne was innocent, he'd be complaining." another stated as they led Wayne to the gallows. They put his head through the noose. "Any last words wolf?" one villager said.

"Yes, I do. The Wolves WILL win!! They'll get you all, one by one!!!" The villager who was holding the leaver fell back in shock and brought the lever back with him. The trapdoor opened and Wayne fell. His neck snapped, but there was no transformation. They killed the Cobbler, which was almost like killing their own. "Well," one villager said "looks like it's back to square one."

Dead

Glirdan (mod)- got a quill through the head on Night 1
WaynetheGoblin (Cobbler) - lynched by villagers on Day 1

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Old 10-11-2005, 02:14 PM   #19
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A few words:

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NIGHT one: Fea (Ranger)
NIGHT two: Rune (Innocent Ord)
NIGHT three: Malkatoj (wolf)
NIGHT four: Hiriel (Hunter)

Of course I was gone before I could even hint at my fourth dream...sorry Sleepy Ranger, no dream of you.

Bergil – Nice game, I really wasn’t sure whether you or Sleepy was the wolf as the voting ended but you turned out the one. Short game, but pretty well played – for the longest time I was convinced that along with malkatoj someone who didn’t vote must be a wolf from what you said DAY two. It wasn’t until I was about to be killed that I began to suspect you might have been bluffing...

Eonwe - Fantastic game. I proclaimed you innocent based on your vote for Bergil, very good strategy. When we had Bergil and I had dreamed of malk I thought if I could narrow down the suspects enough on the evidence we had I could end the game, so I crossed you off my suspect list & didn’t really remember you until my last comment the Night before I was killed. Really the main thing was it seemed like you were posting the way I always post when I don’t want someone catching onto something. I can see why you guys killed me...I got lucky in picking up SR’s lynching campaign of Bergil, I dreamed of malkatoj and so incriminated her, & then my last words were words of suspicion towards you. I guess I got lucky/unlucky there.

Feanor of the Peredhil – Really fun running that bluff with you. It probably would’ve worked for a day longer at least also, if I hadn’t dropped that line about “what if I’m not the Ranger”? I had forgotten that she had “dreamed of me Night one,” or else I never would’ve said that of course. (Later I'll post a little more about that ill-fated bluff, although Fea's already seen/heard it)

Folwren – Good game. I was suspicious of you on several different occasions but in the end decided Eonwe was more suspicious than you (as I said in one of my last comments).

Gurthang – Sorry about that chap. No, I’m not going to apologize to everyone I’ve wrongfully lynched, but I suppose you deserve it. I was rather sure of myself at that point (if I just would’ve dreamed of you NIGHT two like I was planning we could’ve averted that whole disaster) & had an idea in my head that I didn’t question enough.

Hiriel – Well played, I never really suspected you as anything other than a helpful non-gifted villager until I dreamed of you the Night I was killed. Good game.

Kitanna – Pity you had to go so early, I wonder if any of the wolves saved their PMs for the game or could at least talk about their reasons/thought process behind their moves (their killing of you included).

Malkatoj – I really wasn’t that suspicious of you until Bergil was lynched & even then I thought it could be either you or Hiriel. I used my dream on you because Fea thought you were fishy at the least & I turned out right. Good game though, especially your strategy in pressing people for reasons instead of just accusations – very innocent sounding.

Rune Son of Bjarne – Well played, sir. I used my dream on you Night two because something about your posts just made me uneasy, though I couldn’t place it. Turns out you were innocent so I layed off of you (though I never wanted to seem to sure of anyone’s innocence expect Fea’s).

Sleepy Ranger – Was suspicious of you there for awhile, until Bergil proved wolfy. Still, I began to grow uneasy again after I was killed – Fea can attest that I thought the wolf was either Eonwe or you. Didn’t dream of you, I ‘asked the Seer’ to dream of you during one day but than Bergil was found out & I thought malk warranted a dream more than you.

Thinlómien – The no-votes were a little suspicious to me at first, but I decided early on you were telling the truth about your troubles & were trying your best. Good game – thanks for being the first to take up my logic & vote for Gurthang, even though it was entirely misguided.

WaynetheGoblin - What can I say? Welcome to the Cobbler Guild, seeing you voted for Gurthang only brings home one great truth in life: Cobblers, past & present, think alike. Bad luck with being lynch so early but of course I can’t say I’m sorry you didn’t win.

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Just to make sure everyone knows that no rules were broken, I only PMed TORE game-relatedly after I died. It went something like this.

"Okay, so I'm officially dead now. Can you PLEASE explain what in the world the reason for that line about "what if I'm not the Ranger" was?"

I'm not the most patient of people, and since we were both dead, our comparing notes had no effect over the game.

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Old 10-11-2005, 03:18 PM   #21
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Wolfish Reasoning:

NIGHT one:
Glirdan, duh.

NIGHT two:
We killed Kitanna, obviously. The reasons for this were exactly as you picked up on that DAY--she didn't accuse any of us, none of us really mentioned her, it would leave no trail. It put you back at DAY one, with no idea what to do. We were tempted to kill either Fea or TORE, but we figured they would both work to our advantage, if thought innocent. Also, we "knew" Fea would be protected...wrong there. Our reasoning basically worked--none of you seemed to *really* suspect that Bergil was a wolf until he died.

NIGHT three:
We tried to kill Jack. We made the same mistake as Fea, clearly, in thinking that he was the Seer. When he was protected, we were almost sure we were right. That night we also considered killing TORE, but opted for Jack instead.

NIGHT four:
Killed TORE. (Hey, that rhymes!) I don't think any more reasoning is necessary than Fea's posts. We still, at this point, thought Fea had been protected on night 1 and was therefore could have been protected tonight. We also believed Fea a bit too much, though I was pretty suspicious about her confession. It seemed too risky even for her. We were luckier in killing him than we expected.

NIGHT five:
Well, I was dead at this point, but Eonwe killed Fea. Again, this one's pretty obvious. After that bluff, it was clear she was something important...correct me if I'm wrong.


Hopes this helps you understand our brains...though if it makes any sense, I'll be very surprised, considering I haven't slept for over 30 hours.

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Old 10-11-2005, 04:23 PM   #22
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It is? Where? I didn't know they picked a mod yet...
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:54 PM   #24
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I couldn't help but laugh on DAY one when Fea said these two bits concerning me:

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(a "random and factless suspicion" you might say)

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since I'd rather accidentally be lynched than accidentally lynch the seer, I won't act on my random and factless suspicions...
It was almost as if she knew my role!
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:15 PM   #25
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It was almost as if she knew my role!
Purely coincidental. My random suspicion was, amusingly enough, Bergil.
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Old 10-14-2005, 02:49 PM   #26
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Thanks to these peeps!!

I'd like to thank the following people in this game.

SpM - You helped me start the WWJ game with a few ideas. Thanks a ton friend!!

'Mer - You gave me a few pointers through PM's as well. Thanks. And if it wasn't you, than it was Boro. For the life of me, I can't remember whom it was!!

Perky - You were a great backup mod my friend!! When you're modding WWJ III, sign me up immedeately to play. I loved your deaths. Thanks a ton for being backup mod and for coming up with the name.

Bergil - First Wolf to be gone and first Wolf I picked (completely random by the way). You did a pretty good job, even if you did only last two Days. Thanks for joining. Besides, you deserved another chance after being so wrongfully lynched in WW IX. Sorry about that.

malka - Second Wolf to get the lynch. You played the game really well for a newbie. Thanks for playing. Can't wait to see what deaths you come up with in the game. Have fun with it.

Eonwe - My last Wolf. You did really well, especially when you voted for Bergil which gave (I believe) the deciding lynch. I really thought that would have thrown the villagers off, but I was wrong. Good game.

Folwren and Gurthang - I'm glad you guys accepted my invitation to join. Thanks for making the game even more interesting. Folwren, good job in making it to the end. Gurthang, tis a pitty you were lynched like that, but I was rather fond of your death, especially since I myself play instruments. Hope you guys had fun.

Fea - Glad you accepted the invite to. Especially since someone else would have been the Ranger and I believe that no one could play a better Ranger in this game then you did. Congrats!!

TORE - First person to sign up who's experienced. Glad you did at that. You played a really good Seer. Your death was the one I was most fond of, after mine of course.

Wayne - I'm sure you would have made a good Cobbler. To bad you got lynched on the first Day before you could show your stuff.

Kitanna - Second person who signed up who's experienced. To bad those Wolves got you on Night 2. Seems like that's happened in each game that I've been in with you. Sorry about me attacking you in WW IX by the way..

Thin - Good job making it to the end. You did really good. Not sure if I invited you, but if I did, thanks for joining. If not, thanks for playing anyway.

Sleepy - I liked that idea of having a picture of werewolf you had. To bad we couldn't put it in. I suggest you do that in one you're going to mod. Good job in making it to the end.

Rune - Not much I can say except good job in making it to the end my friend. Hope you had fun.

Hiriel - I'm surprised you made it that long. Good job. Loved you as the Hunter. Good game.

Spectaters - Glad you all decided to watch. Hope you enjoyed it.

Wilwa, Mith, Oddy and others I forgot - Thanks for repping me. It means a lot coming from you three and all those else who weren't in the game.

And I have one final thing. Sorry that the start time was so late. It's because I only have a two hour limit on the computer and my parents normally go to bed at ten and me at eleven, so I decided to start it at an in between point. Sorry if it was an inconvienience(sp?) for any of you. Hope you all had fun!! I know I did!!!
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Old 10-24-2005, 09:23 AM   #27
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Thin - Good job making it to the end. You did really good. Not sure if I invited you, but if I did, thanks for joining. If not, thanks for playing anyway.
Hmm... You didn't invite me. The thing you thought that you had invited me made me a bit curious. Where did you get that from? Well, thanks (again, for the thousandth time) for the great modding you did, Glirdan.
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