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Old 10-03-2005, 09:26 PM   #1
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White Tree Another Death!

A false sense of security loomed over Fwedawick. Inside homes, the villagers were all dreaming about magical lands of far away. All the villagers, except one. There was a creaking sound on her roof that kept her awake. Slowly and consistantly it creaked, until it reached a great uproar. The house seemed to shake at its foundation at the sound. For a second, the villager thought she was dead, but then the creaking stopped.

She didn't know wether to get out of bed, or fall back asleep. Before she could think it over in her head, the decision was made for her. Her ceiling collapsed right in front of her, and she found three snarling snouts engaging closer.

When the sun arose, the villagers woke up and gathered at the center of the town. "Head count!" Rune said, as he counted the assembled villagers. One was missing from their numbers. "Who is missing" they were all asking, while panicking in circles. Abruptly, one shouted out "Look over there!" The villager was pointing to a pillar of smoke comming out of the woods. "Quickly!" one of the villagers shouted, as they all sprinted to the smoke.

What they found did not amuse the villagers. A house had been burned to the ground that night, nothing left but its foundation. "Look!" one shouted, as he pointed to what remained to the ceiling. It was none other than Kitanna, sitting on the rafters, a bottle of ale in her hands and a smile on her face. "Get her down! I must examine her!" Thinlómien said, as the villagers climbed up to fetch her body. There were no signs of scrates of markings. It appeared that Kitanna was perfect fine, apart from her being dead. "What caused her death?" one asked, as he looked around the body for wounds. "Why this is most strange," Thinlómien said, as she opened Kitanna's inanimate mouth. "It appears that she died....of alcohol poisoning." The village didn't know wether to be in shock, or laugh. "Al....alcohol poisoning? So what, the wolves just made her drink to her death?" one said. "It would seem so. It doesn't look like she suffered" Thinlómien said, taking the half-empty bottle from Kitanna's hand.

"But...if she died of Alcohol poisoning, why is the house on fire?" one asked, touching a piece of the burnt wood. "I think they lit the remaining alcohol and burned the house down!" another suggested. "Well, one thing's for sure: She won't need the insurance money"



NOTE: The names mentioned in this post do not mean anything as to their identities, with the exception of Kitanna

Dead

Glirdan (mod)- got a quill through the head on Night 1
WaynetheGoblin (Cobbler) - lynched by villagers on Day 1
Kitanna (ordo) - Died of Alcohol poisoning on Night 2

Alive
Bergil
Eonwe
Feanor of the Peredhil
Jack (aka Folwren)
Gurthang
Hiriel
Malkatoj
Rune Son of Bjarne
Sleepy Ranger
The Only Real Estel
Thinlomien

It is now Day. Wolves, stop PMing, Villagers, start lynching!
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:45 PM   #2
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Kitanna?!? I guessed TOREstel would snuff it tonight. That death doesn't even make sense. I'm almost certain that nobody even accused her yesterday, though I'm in too much of a hurry trying to finish my paper to double check (three out of five pages and going strong!). Expect more solid thoughts in the morning (after 8:45 EST, as that's when my first class ends, and, ironically enough, when this paper is due).

Edit of thoughts: Ah, Gurthang voted against her. That doubtlessly means nothing. Either a frame-up attempt, or a bluffed frame-up. So he's a wolf or not. Now doesn't that just help us.

Repeat of thoughts: more solid theories in the morning.

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Old 10-03-2005, 10:26 PM   #3
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Kitanna?!? I guessed TOREstel would snuff it tonight.
Uh...I can't wait until you can post more in-depth.

I plan on posting more later as well, though I agree for now that Kitanna's death makes little sense unless she pegged a wolf in her accusations (which I don't have time to read right now).
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:15 AM   #4
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Uh...I can't wait until you can post more in-depth.
Right. Now that I've successfully finished writing a paper about the Odyssey that deals in depth with Goldilocks and porridge...

My reason for thinking TOREstel might get it were that he was the one that I "attacked" yesterday, advocating (jokingly as it were) for his death. Being as that jokes and sincerity are so often played between, I jumped to guess that the wolves may consider a frame up of me (forgive my arrogance, if you will) and that would be quite an excellent way of doing it.

My thoughts on Kitanna's death are that it was quite probably a random choice. She did not directly accuse nor defend anybody, though she commented on many. Her death was a discreet kill that removed one of the targets, the villagers, without arousing any directed suspicion. We are still as badly off as we were yesterday.

Now on to your accusations... I really feel that I must address them, as pure ignorance of them is not an option.

I agree with you that I am vocal. How could I not? I agree with you that I am frank, illogical, controversial, confusing. But you really shouldn't kill me. That would, I fear, be a really bad idea. I'm too useful, you see. I have experience with these matters. When it is mentioned that I could be using my wiles to mess with poor young inexperienced ones... perhaps you are right. But 'tis that not what makes life interesting? Should you desire it, I'll stop being so coy.

In any case, my ploy yesterday went well-answered by the wolves. I had expected a bandwagon approach, really. "She voted for herself... it must be a ruse! We all ought to kill her just to make sure." And can you honestly tell me that sort of line would not have worked? It would have been a forgivable offense from anybody... And yet the wolves did not attack me. I have little doubt that it is because of my apparently enigmatic actions. I am, likely, what is considered a convenient distraction.

What that means is that I am strategically placed to spout off accusations and though you won't necessarily believe me (which is why I'm alive, I'm sure), you'll also probably refrain from killing me... just in case.

Here are my ideas for the day: We kill Malkatoj. Why? Good question. I haven't decided if an actual death is necessary, but certainly a play to the very brink of it! You must imagine that last part in a melodramatic sort of stage acting voice. And actually, we really don't need to choose Malkatoj. That name was chosen more or less at random. The basic bit of my idea, though I'm not sure how well you'll understand, is to accuse, bandwagon, and watch who takes sides.

Now that I've let you all know of my little plot... I'll have to come up with a new one. It never quite does to let the wolves know what you're thinking. Way to make be honest guys.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:20 AM   #5
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Being as that jokes and sincerity are so often played between, I jumped to guess that the wolves may consider a frame up of me (forgive my arrogance, if you will) and that would be quite an excellent way of doing it.
Fea, no offense, I think the wolves would rather leave you to make yourself suspicious.

And they'll probably do the same with me, I mess things up on my own far too often.

By the way, Fea, I don't suspect you at all for being yourself, I only did for a few reasons that I think I'll keep to myself. Still, as you can see up there ^ I think you are likely to be innocent...for now at least.
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Fea, again, I have a question about your reasoning. It's not so much that the vote is for me, but that I see no reasoning behind it. I'm assuming that it was at random, as was your accusation yesterday, but if there is a reason I'd like to see it so I can at least defend myself.

My suspicions relating to Fea are not at all that she is a wolf. I'm more suspicious of those who defend her, attaching someone who is, by her actions, clearly an innocent. She's also hard to kill, and defending her seems smart simply because she's experienced and will be an asset to our village--assuming, of course, she's an innocent.

It's time for me to go to class, but I'll be back later today with more ideas.
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[QUOTE=malkatoj]Fea, again, I have a question about your reasoning. QUOTE]

I have a large amount of trouble explaining my reasoning. The phantom once told me that I should simply give up trying to compete with his logic. I told him that I understood his logic, I just preferred my own. I assure you... my reasoning makes perfect sense to me, but it probably won't to anyone else.

I chose malka because I could. Because he's outspoken, so I was choosing slightly less than randomly, but still without a true suspicion. There is always more to go on with people who talk, whether the "facts" are true or false. I chose with no particular excuse in mind, because if I provide a focus for my suspicions, the individual focus can be easily refuted. If I provide a broader spectrum, the person must work harder to provide examples of innocence. Analyzing said examples, it's generally pretty easy to figure out what's going through their heads. Make sense? And what you've said about "those who defend"... you're exactly right. I want to know who is agreeing with whom. I want to see who puts forth the first opinion, and who bandwagons, versus who genuinely agrees.

Which is why, malkatoj, I think we should lynch you.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:11 AM   #8
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*pulls out bittern and plays a few mournful notes*

"Alas, Kitanna is a wolvish victim;
They have our poor hermit killed.

She was found with a happy smile,
But with a vile beverage filled.
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Edit of thoughts: Ah, Gurthang voted against her. That doubtlessly means nothing. Either a frame-up attempt, or a bluffed frame-up. So he's a wolf or not. Now doesn't that just help us.
It is option one. It would be downright stupid for a wolf to kill the person they voted for, especially if they were the only one to vote for said person. It might be a good bluff, but it would draw far to much suspicion to be effective. For instance, I will not be surprised if I die today, simply because Kitanna's death can be directly linked to me because I voted for her.

But her death really doesn't tell us much. I really expected to find TORE or Fea (or maybe myself) dead this morning. The fact that they aren't makes me slightly suspicious of them. Which adds to my previous suspicion of Feanor. She is the only one left from my suspicions yesterday. I do not know if I will vote for her though; it just doesn't 'feel' right for some reason. We will see though.

I would believe, however, that the wolves would kill someone who did not directly have contact with them either way. This would leave absolutely no trail. So:

Voted for Kitanna:
Gurthang

Mentioned by Kitanna:
Eonwe
Wayne
Gurthang
Thinlómien
Folwren
Feanor


Mentioned Kitanna:
Feanor
Rune
Folwren
Gurthang
Hiriel


(I think that's everyone. Please tell me if I missed someone.)

Those not on any of the above lists:

Bergil
Malkatoj
Sleepy Ranger
TOREstel


And on that sketchy evidence I am suspicious of them. But only slightly. I'm watching you.

Also, I don't like people who don't vote. You know who you are.
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:05 AM   #9
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Kitanna is dead !

I did not expect that to happen, i will need some time to think things over.

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I did not vote yesterday, this was not intendet. I simply went in side to think things over, and when i came and cast my vote, i was one minute to late. (I thought there was an hour left)

It did not mater though as i would have votet for WaynetheGoblin.
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(Sorry I didn't post anything on Sunday - I didn't visit the downs, so I didn't know the game had begun.)

Poor Kitanna! I've no idea who could have killed her.

I'm really suspicious about Fea. I don't actually suspect that she's a werewolf, but what she is, that is a complete mystery. If she were a werewolf, she probably wouldn't act as she does. She seems to be the cobbler since she "defends" the werewolves by voting herself. But, if she really were the cobbler, she wouldn't reveal it this early. So, probably she's just a veteran trying to trick and tease us novices...
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Alas! Poor Kitanna! It seems we are slowly falling apart. At the moment we're just randomly accusing each other which will most proably lead to our deaths. I'd suggest slowing down and thinking for a moment. At the moment I believe that Feanor is a wolf. I mean it seemed to be a well orchestrated plan to make her look innocent but there were too many loose ends. Hmmm... I really doubt that TORE is anything but an innocent bystander, people just don't like him because he argues too much. The reason why I did not vote was because I did not want to harm an innocent, this time how ever you can expect me to cast my vote in the matter.
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:23 AM   #12
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Kitanna...dead...

This really leaves us back at square one. Thanks for the list, Gurthang. I think it'll help. As of now, I'd like to see more posts before I can form any strong suspicions.

Thin, she's not the Cobbler--that was Wayne and we lynched him yesterday.

I have my suspicions relating to Fea, but not really about her. More when I see people's reactions.

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now that we are talking about Fea and we were !

I think that as long Fea is alive she will be one of the most debated persons, due to her forwardness.

I dont know if this behavior shows us that she is a wolf. If she is it sertanly worked yesterday since i among others were ready to stop her from killing her self.

Maybe she's bluffing, maybe it's a dubbel bluff.

Let us wait and see her reply before we use her as a scapegoat, just becourse she has a different aproch to this wolf thing.
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I would believe, however, that the wolves would kill someone who did not directly have contact with them either way. This would leave absolutely no trail.
That could be, but don't you expect the wolves priority #1 to be finding the seer early? You seem to have the idea that they are going to try to eliminate all the 'veterans' first (which they might), but that won't do them much good if all or most of the gifteds still have to be dealt with afterwards.

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A good observation. Stop & look around. I'm 90% sure that I've identified who the seer is & I plan on following his/her lead subtley.

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I am what is generally known as 'a loudmouth.' But then so is Fea, & Gurthang may qualify as one as well.

A few thoughts, & I'm probably going out on a limb by somewhat supporting a few people here...hopefully none of them turn out to be wolves:

Bergil- Not sure yet

Eonwe- Voted for at random, not sure by any means yet

Feanor of the Peredhil- The villager that I can't get out of my head ( no, not because of that ). My thought on her have ranged from suspicious to almost likely innocent. At the moment I think she's an innocent just being her normal confrontary self-but I'd like to see her explain a few things.

Jack (aka Folwren)- Not sure

Gurthang- Likely innocent, not likely to be gifted, but it is rather early

Hiriel- Not sure

Kitanna- Obviously dead. I'm going to assume that she pegged a wolf in one of her accusations or was at the very least getting to close. Unfortunately, she "mentioned" (as Gurthang put it) quite a few people.

Malkatoj- Not sure

Rune Son of Bjarne- Suspected me early, but I think he's innocent. That could change, however. I like the fact that he refuses to jump on Fea for being herself. I'm now not likely change my opinion of him being innocent unless there's some substantial evidence.

Sleepy Ranger- Talks some sense.

The Only Real Estel- I don't usually worry myself too much

Thinlomien- Not sure

As you can see, I haven't had a lot of time to analize the situation, but hopefully I'll be able to do some more later.

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I would believe, however, that the wolves would kill someone who did not directly have contact with them either way. This would leave absolutely no trail. So:

Voted for Kitanna:
Gurthang

Mentioned by Kitanna:
Eonwe
Wayne
Gurthang
Thinlómien
Folwren
Feanor


Mentioned Kitanna:
Feanor
Rune
Folwren
Gurthang
Hiriel


(I think that's everyone. Please tell me if I missed someone.)

Those not on any of the above lists:

Bergil
Malkatoj
Sleepy Ranger
TOREstel


And on that sketchy evidence I am suspicious of them. But only slightly. I'm watching you.

Also, I don't like people who don't vote. You know who you are.

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NIGHT two:
We killed Kitanna, obviously. The reasons for this were exactly as you picked up on that DAY--she didn't accuse any of us, none of us really mentioned her, it would leave no trail. It put you back at DAY one, with no idea what to do. We were tempted to kill either Fea or TORE, but we figured they would both work to our advantage, if thought innocent. Also, we "knew" Fea would be protected...wrong there. Our reasoning basically worked--none of you seemed to *really* suspect that Bergil was a wolf until he died.
Wow, I had no idea I was that close. Pretty lucky that I had two wolves down on Day 2. Ironic how that exact post was also used against me by TOREstel.
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