WWJ I: A New Saga, A New Beginning... Or Is IT!?!?!?

[Folwren]

I don't know what to think or what to say.

Fea...I know you can't answer this question, but perhaps voicing it will give the others something to think about...am I correct in thinking that if you protected me two NIGHTS ago, and on that night, the wolves attempted to kill me, I am as proved innocent as though the Seer had dreamt of me and said that I was?

TORE being the seer...I'll warrant Malkatoj is guilty without question.

He was wrong about Gurthang, though.

Remember, he had three dreams. Who did he know about before he died?

I don't have time to speculate - for real and not for pretend I have to go clean out my horses' pen. Will try to be back later.

Oh...best tell you my main suspects:

Malkatoj
Eonwe or Thin
And possibly Sleepy.

Consider those four. Don't lynch them all - we only need two. I really do apologize for not being able to write any more and tell you why I suspect people. I'm going to be thinking, though, while I work.

(And, those I just listed, don't get offended...remember...we have to start somehwre...)

-- Jack

[Thinlómien]

I had just formed a theory nearly proving Fea and TORE being very clever and nasty wolves, but since TORE's now dead I must admit it was a damn stupid theory.
Malka is probably a wolf - we all seem to think so. I'm currently trying to figure out when she was first suspected and why and what has she said, because these things may give new clues about the other wolves.
Hiriel, might be a wolf, because Fea wasn't the seer, and so she didn't dream about her. I don't still really suspect her.
Sleepy has convinced me that he's innocent. (Don't ask by what, because it's by all or almost all of his posts.)
Rune might be a wolf (and a damn good gamer). His first posts are very unwolfish, but lately he hasn't posted anything that supports his innocence.
Eonwe is really difficult to say about. No clue.
Jack was just proven innocent by Fea. I don't suspect Fea because she clearly had somekind of alliance with TORE, and unless TORE was fooled, Fea is innocent.
I'll post more soon.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I had just formed a theory nearly proving Fea and TORE being very clever and nasty wolves, but since TORE's now dead I must admit it was a damn stupid theory.

Looks like I wasn't the only one...
Anyway about Fea shes innocent, she was the first person TORE dreamt of. Go back and read his posts, he said...

Page#3, Post#96

Any more suspicion of Fea is just wasted time & breath. Unless I grossly misunderstand the seer's hint, Fea is innocent as the pure & wind driven snow.

Which is why Fea's seer plan was bound to fail. Sigh, their plan was faulty... which is why you should always go through the posts again before doing something like that.

malkatoj Page#1, Post#18

Clearly not Gurthang or Hiriel , as both musicians and librarians enjoy such art forms.

Well Gurthang's been proved clean now what about Hiriel? We should look more into this matter.

I must go now I'll check for more later.

[Thinlómien]

Seems I'm the only one active at the moment (except Sleepy). I would really, really like opinions on who's a wolf and defenses from suspected people (I know malka and Rune at least are not going to appear, which is sad, because they're close to be my main suspects), because I'm probably voting soon .
The malkatoj-research didn't tell me anything new, except that some of the suspicions started from Bergil's post what wolves do and what they don't do. Most of this discussion is found on pages 3 and 4, but I don't think the discussion is very useful in further suspicions. But, of course, I've maybe not noticed something.
And everybody who suspect me, please note that my 'not votings' are because of misunderstandings. First, I didn't know the game had even begun, because I didn't visit the Downs last weekend. The second time, I had problems with time differences. You should already know this, if you have read my previous posts.

I'll probably vote for malkatoj this time, because TORE the Seer was so sure about her, so he probably had dreamed about her. But if malka isn't a wolf, I don't have a clue who are the wolves, who clearly then are quite intelligent or have a good bluffing skill at least. I thought this was an easy mystery, but this seems to get more complicated...

[Folwren]

Okay, I don't have long...we're going someplace for all afternoon. I will be back and will be able to do a lot of talking between the hours of roughly 5 or 6:00 EST and 10:30 EST. I'm not sure when we're returning home.

I have formed no real suspects, besides Malka.

We may want to pay attention to who's being quiet today..............

-- Jack

Remember. Malka is to by lynched today. I've a feeling TORE knew all about her, if you see what I mean.

[Thinlómien]

I vote for ++malkatoj. (If you need to, see reason a few posts earlier.)

I'm now leaving and I won't be here until monDay.
See you then!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Rune might be a wolf (and a damn good gamer). His first posts are very unwolfish, but lately he hasn't posted anything that supports his innocence.

Just because i suspect you does not mean i am a Wolf !
It just mean that i am a confused villager who is having trouble finding the last wolf !

If i should judge people by there votes i would stick with what i postet earlyer!

But if i were to look at statements and who people attached them selfs too. I could ad Eonwe to the list

Hiriel
Fea innocent's
Jack



P.S. Denmark 1 Greece 0 Odin vs Zeus
P.P.S. Odin = Lord Of The Rings

[Eonwe]

sorry. work...work was awesome...

right, in keeping with our late seer's wishes:

++malkatoj

ok that's done, let's get down to business.

and first for business, as sleepy ranger appears to be chief prosecutor, i will adress this to him. can i take it that most of your argument comes from post 217? because i think that a very shaky arguement (no offence, but i do have somethink for each point).

you seem to think there is some kind of discontenuity between the first post (you don't give the number, and i don't know it), and teh second statemen aobut random voting. let me first say i am very displeased by the your wording "Eonwe states that we should vote randomly". do you think there is a better way to vote on day one. there was next to nothing known at the close of day one. even TORE voted randomly. (i will here try to anticipate your reaction of, "yes but TORE as the seer could have had inside information.) TORE never made any light of any eonwe dream, nor voiced any suspicion later on. so i think we can conclude that it was indeed a random vote.

Kitanna - Eonwe link? i don't think she was ever really suspicios of me (or anyone, poor soul didn't last long enough). I certainly never felt anything from her. It is kind of hard for anyone to hit too near teh target on DAy one...

on to your next point, this one is even more disappointing. i think you quite take it out of context. Bergil was saying nothing of either my innocence or guilt. the comment was voicing suspicoin of none other that you my friend, based on your comment about me. i guess i should quote in full the post...

Originally Posted by Bergil

The Phantom would be proud appearing so much in a game he isn't in. I will cast my vote for

++Sleepy Ranger

this is partly for self-preservation I admit, but people don't seem to think Fea is guilty (I'm not even so sure anymore), he might be a wolf and, 1 muinate after he recieved his 1st vote, he responded to Eonwe's innocent statement of

:
Only sometimes? Hmmm... Do you mean to say that you like or support the werewolves at other times?

and for the analytical line, I just didn't know if he usually acted that way

as for the very end, i don't think that is that important. apperently, you are taking this entirely wrong. you seem to think that i am just figuring out that TORE is not the ranger. no. how could i have know. you have to take someone at their word when the real ranger doesn't raise their hand. (if im not reading waht you are saying right, please let me know. but im sure i can give you something for that, too ) waht i was really saying was, if TORE was a wolf, we are screwed. fortunately he wasn't.

all in all, i think you take most of my word out of context or twist them. if you hadn't provided such compilling evidence that TORE knew of your innocents, i would highly suspect you. sigh....

[Eonwe]

ok here's how it breaks down for me:

Eonwe: I know im innocent. i count sr's suspicions as baseless, and a bit offending, considering how much was taken out of context.


Feanor of the Peredhil: Um, waht are you now? the ranger? right, right, gotcha. obviously innocent.


Jack (aka Folwren): obviously innocent. saved by ranger = innocent.


Hiriel: not much to go on. could go either way.


Malkatoj: wolf


Rune Son of Bjarne: not much to go on. could go either way.


Sleepy Ranger: he put forth a pretty convinsing argument for his innocence. all the same, i don't like the way he attacked me. i think an innocent would have used much sounder logic.


Thinlomien: well now. i don't rigtly know.


so, i would council looking primarily into Hiriel, Rune, and i think i'll keep Sleepy Ranger on the table for now.

It really is too bad that TORE couldn't tell us all his dreams before he died. that would narrow the scope considerablely...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Since we have not been able to get a good discution going today and find the last wolf. I will do as the rest and vote ++Malkatoj

The reason i am suspecting Thinlomien (and others) again is that the ones i thought might be guilty was Malkatoj, Jack and Gurthang.

Gurthang we killed

Jack it cannot be

Malkatoj we are going to kill

were does that leave me ?

Keep in mind that i am no genius at analysing what people say and do. I am no TOREstel !

P.S. Is this transforming in to a TOREstel cult ? Cool, count me in.

[Folwren]

Okay, guys, I hope TORE knew what he was talking about. I don't need to vote...Malk is dying tonight without question.

I don't have much to say, either. I read the posts and have come up with the conclusion that the other wolf (assuming that Malk really is the guilty one) is probably Eonwe. However, I'm not one hundred percent sure. No one is, in fact. We still have tomorrow (Sunday) and the next DAY (Monday) to research her posts (and others) and see what things turn out to be.

Eonwe...your defenses for yourseld don't help your case much. You saying that an innocent will come up with more convincing arguments is bogus. People can only go what they have, even if they don't have much. (See my post against SP.)

One thing - we must all be careful about who our Hunter is.........

-- Jack