Prisoner of Númenor Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 10-09-2005, 05:27 PM

I like your take on Kathaani, Feanor. My thoughts on Tiru is that there is a special bond between him and Mabalar, and that has yet to be written about. Could be fun.

So, who's up to write next? That without having yet read Regin's fill-in, so I may be back to edit this post.

littlemanpoet · 10-10-2005, 03:59 AM

Well. Not the best post I've ever done. I'm willing to edit, modify, etc. Anyway, I'm thinking that neither Sauron nor Herugor are foolish enough not to have enough guards around to quash a minor rebellion. Our little party does not even amount to that. So it's time for that Tolkienian wonder, the eucatastrophe; or everybody's dead. The obvious one is the Valar-imposed cataclysm. Too obvious? Can anyone think of a better? The question is, how can the cataclysm be made to help the party when it has no eyes to see who it hits, and no will to differentiate good from bad? Or do we want a literal dei ex machina such that, say, the Valar hear the prayers of Miriel to spare the group? Or is there something Abarzadan can pull out of his hat?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-10-2005, 07:36 AM

The Eagles could always come.

littlemanpoet · 10-10-2005, 08:40 AM

Ha!

I'm not surprised to get that from you, Feanor! But no dice. No set up for it so far. Maybe the palantir!??

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-10-2005, 10:52 AM

Depends on who's on the other end of the p[hone]alantir. Who's got the other ones at this point? Anyone that could jump in to help out? Or at least be like "I have swarms of soldiers at my disposal. I think I'll order them to attack the King's Men and save the Faithful so that most of them can get off this blasted island before it sinks."?
Or there could be a villager uprising... or a really big earthquake that just so happens to, incredible as it may seem, drop all of the bad guys through a mysterious fault line that opens up beneath their feet, leaving the good guys just far enough away not to get crushed into some new style Numenorian Fertilizer as the fault line closes back up in the next tremor?

Or we could stick with "Run away, run away!" and trust in the speed of the kariborim and the tremors to keep any arrows from finding deadly purchase as we escape.

Or... I kind of like the Valar hearing Miriel's prayer. I just don't want to write the scene.

Now that you're back, LMP, that means I can foist her back off on you, right?

The most realistic sounding is to try and run away and trust in the earthquakes to screw up the soldier's aim. Surely a few arrows will land, and maybe there will be a nice depressing death just as the ships sail away and they'll have to toss the body into the churning sea...

Don't mind me. I'm just annoyed that high schoolers get the day off to celebrate a genocidal fraud and I'm stuck in classes.

It's got me in a cynical, pessimistic, and fantastically fun mood.

littlemanpoet · 10-10-2005, 06:57 PM

Yeah, I thought of the deus ex machina earthquake too, and I don't like it anymore. Too cheap and easy. The "run away" tack with earthquakes, hail, wind, and all sorts of other nasty meteorological (sp?) phenomena seems reasonable.

Herugor will have one last nasty surprise closer to Romenna anyway. At that point we can have the eucatastrophe, I guess.

Hey Himaran! Where are you? Are you gonna post some kind of amazing thing for Abarzadan? I keep hoping.

I still like the p[hone]alantir idea though. The others are in the possession of Elendil, so it would be quite plausible for Miriel to use it to keep Elendil informed, don't you think?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-10-2005, 07:49 PM

Miriel could use it if she had it. She gave it to Inzillomi already, remember? So there's a palantir right here, right now. And I concur about Himaran. I want to see Abarzadan finish his story!

10-10-2005, 07:36 AM	#3
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	The Eagles could always come. __________________ peace

10-10-2005, 10:52 AM	#5
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Depends on who's on the other end of the p[hone]alantir. Who's got the other ones at this point? Anyone that could jump in to help out? Or at least be like "I have swarms of soldiers at my disposal. I think I'll order them to attack the King's Men and save the Faithful so that most of them can get off this blasted island before it sinks."? Or there could be a villager uprising... or a really big earthquake that just so happens to, incredible as it may seem, drop all of the bad guys through a mysterious fault line that opens up beneath their feet, leaving the good guys just far enough away not to get crushed into some new style Numenorian Fertilizer as the fault line closes back up in the next tremor? Or we could stick with "Run away, run away!" and trust in the speed of the kariborim and the tremors to keep any arrows from finding deadly purchase as we escape. Or... I kind of like the Valar hearing Miriel's prayer. I just don't want to write the scene. Now that you're back, LMP, that means I can foist her back off on you, right? The most realistic sounding is to try and run away and trust in the earthquakes to screw up the soldier's aim. Surely a few arrows will land, and maybe there will be a nice depressing death just as the ships sail away and they'll have to toss the body into the churning sea... Don't mind me. I'm just annoyed that high schoolers get the day off to celebrate a genocidal fraud and I'm stuck in classes. It's got me in a cynical, pessimistic, and fantastically fun mood. __________________ peace

10-10-2005, 07:49 PM	#7
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Miriel could use it if she had it. She gave it to Inzillomi already, remember? So there's a palantir right here, right now. And I concur about Himaran. I want to see Abarzadan finish his story! __________________ peace

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10-09-2005, 05:27 PM	#1
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I like your take on Kathaani, Feanor. My thoughts on Tiru is that there is a special bond between him and Mabalar, and that has yet to be written about. Could be fun. So, who's up to write next? That without having yet read Regin's fill-in, so I may be back to edit this post.

10-10-2005, 03:59 AM	#2
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Well. Not the best post I've ever done. I'm willing to edit, modify, etc. Anyway, I'm thinking that neither Sauron nor Herugor are foolish enough not to have enough guards around to quash a minor rebellion. Our little party does not even amount to that. So it's time for that Tolkienian wonder, the eucatastrophe; or everybody's dead. The obvious one is the Valar-imposed cataclysm. Too obvious? Can anyone think of a better? The question is, how can the cataclysm be made to help the party when it has no eyes to see who it hits, and no will to differentiate good from bad? Or do we want a literal dei ex machina such that, say, the Valar hear the prayers of Miriel to spare the group? Or is there something Abarzadan can pull out of his hat?

10-10-2005, 08:40 AM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Ha! I'm not surprised to get that from you, Feanor! But no dice. No set up for it so far. Maybe the palantir!??

10-10-2005, 06:57 PM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Yeah, I thought of the deus ex machina earthquake too, and I don't like it anymore. Too cheap and easy. The "run away" tack with earthquakes, hail, wind, and all sorts of other nasty meteorological (sp?) phenomena seems reasonable. Herugor will have one last nasty surprise closer to Romenna anyway. At that point we can have the eucatastrophe, I guess. Hey Himaran! Where are you? Are you gonna post some kind of amazing thing for Abarzadan? I keep hoping. I still like the p[hone]alantir idea though. The others are in the possession of Elendil, so it would be quite plausible for Miriel to use it to keep Elendil informed, don't you think?