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Essex · 10-14-2005, 10:41 AM

do we also want to put in the sticky the 'rules' - ie

(for example)

- we can compare to the book

- no 'bashing' without reasoning behind it - ie don't just say 'that bit was useless' - explain why

- on the other hand, no 'lovey dovey' towards Jackson and the films - ie don't just say it's the best thing to happen since sliced bread, explain why you think this way

- don't just state the obvious - lilke 'but gandalf NEVER set off fire works before the party - tolkien categorically stated this!' - explain a reason behind why you don't actually like the change from the book - why it does or doesn't work on screen

- remember that these films are ADAPTATIONS of the book

sorry, just my 2 cents worth - don't know if you want to use any of these, Alatar

Boromir88 · 10-14-2005, 02:23 PM

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sorry, just my 2 cents worth - don't know if you want to use any of these, Alatar

My two cents is what Essex said.

Let's get explanations and reasonings not just..."this scene is stupid."

Gurthang · 10-14-2005, 02:28 PM

This sounds pretty cool; I'm excited about doing it. I never got into CbC, because I was reading a rather long fantasy series at the time(The Wheel of Time). I don't really have the movies handy, but I think I've seen them too many times, so I'll be able to at least keep up until I can get to my movies. And Essex has a good point about rules.

***Mister Underhill*** · 10-14-2005, 02:39 PM

I expect that alatar and The Saucepan Man, as leaders of this project, will do everything they can to keep the discussions civil and thoughtful. alatar, as I take it, has been known to be critical of the films, while SPM has been one of their staunchest defenders, so I think we have a good balance there. I think the only rule we really need is to let the moderators do the moderating.

Oh, and have fun, that's rule number two.

alatar · 10-14-2005, 05:54 PM

Sorry, but thought that I covered many of the concerns in the 'Welcome!' thread, especially those of Essex. I'll remember to ask "why" a lot.

And unless others disagree, I think that the staggered start would be okay, allowing people to catch up and post after the weekend before the next thread starts. Plus it gives me a few more days with which to work

.

Anyway, if this comng Wednesday is okay, I'll be ready to launch then.

And me "critical" of the films? Naah! I'm just a skeptic and a cynic, and mostly jealous that I wasn't cast in any of the leading roles ("What? You need acting experience and talent? But I've read the books a thousand times...doesn't that count for anything!?!").

Looking forward to the discussion.

And note, as related elsewhere, a long long time ago I wrote a LOTR movie script that was complete blasphemy, and so I see this work as part of my penance...

alatar · 10-19-2005, 09:24 AM

Not sure if we'll be getting a "Suggestions and Feedback" thread - do we need one? - but just note that I would appreciate any feedback, especially if there's something in which I could be doing better.

I've had my feelings surgically removed, so let me know what y'all really think.

Thanks. - alatar

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-23-2005, 04:10 PM

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Not sure if we'll be getting a "Suggestions and Feedback" thread - do we need one?

Sounds like a good idea. I'll start one and make it Sticky.

10-14-2005, 02:28 PM	#3
Gurthang Sword of Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oh, I'm around. Posts: 1,401	This sounds pretty cool; I'm excited about doing it. I never got into CbC, because I was reading a rather long fantasy series at the time(The Wheel of Time). I don't really have the movies handy, but I think I've seen them too many times, so I'll be able to at least keep up until I can get to my movies. And Essex has a good point about rules. __________________ I'm on a Mission from God.

10-14-2005, 05:54 PM	#5
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Sorry, but thought that I covered many of the concerns in the 'Welcome!' thread, especially those of Essex. I'll remember to ask "why" a lot. And unless others disagree, I think that the staggered start would be okay, allowing people to catch up and post after the weekend before the next thread starts. Plus it gives me a few more days with which to work . Anyway, if this comng Wednesday is okay, I'll be ready to launch then. And me "critical" of the films? Naah! I'm just a skeptic and a cynic, and mostly jealous that I wasn't cast in any of the leading roles ("What? You need acting experience and talent? But I've read the books a thousand times...doesn't that count for anything!?!"). Looking forward to the discussion. And note, as related elsewhere, a long long time ago I wrote a LOTR movie script that was complete blasphemy, and so I see this work as part of my penance... __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

10-19-2005, 09:24 AM	#6
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Not sure if we'll be getting a "Suggestions and Feedback" thread - do we need one? - but just note that I would appreciate any feedback, especially if there's something in which I could be doing better. I've had my feelings surgically removed, so let me know what y'all really think. Thanks. - alatar __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

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10-14-2005, 10:41 AM	#1
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	do we also want to put in the sticky the 'rules' - ie (for example) - we can compare to the book - no 'bashing' without reasoning behind it - ie don't just say 'that bit was useless' - explain why - on the other hand, no 'lovey dovey' towards Jackson and the films - ie don't just say it's the best thing to happen since sliced bread, explain why you think this way - don't just state the obvious - lilke 'but gandalf NEVER set off fire works before the party - tolkien categorically stated this!' - explain a reason behind why you don't actually like the change from the book - why it does or doesn't work on screen - remember that these films are ADAPTATIONS of the book sorry, just my 2 cents worth - don't know if you want to use any of these, Alatar

10-14-2005, 02:39 PM	#4
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	I expect that alatar and The Saucepan Man, as leaders of this project, will do everything they can to keep the discussions civil and thoughtful. alatar, as I take it, has been known to be critical of the films, while SPM has been one of their staunchest defenders, so I think we have a good balance there. I think the only rule we really need is to let the moderators do the moderating. Oh, and have fun, that's rule number two.