TOL-IN-GAURHOTH XII, Erbar Telamarth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-24-2005, 09:38 PM

Tell me who to vote for, and I'll do it. Are we going to kill Boro and TGWBS? Are we going to vote Boro and Encai? Are we going to drop the double lynch and just kill her now and hope it works?

mormegil · 10-24-2005, 09:40 PM

It sounds as though Esty is for the double still. I don't think I am because it needs to include Boromir. What do you think Fea and also Mister? I'm pretty sure I want to get Encai gone though.

Estelyn Telcontar · 10-24-2005, 09:45 PM

morm, please explain why you now think Boro innocent - I don't see it. And as long as he's possibly guilty, a double lynching is a good idea.

Sure, he voted for himself, which would be a stupid move for a wolf, but he did so at a time when that move would seem to show his innocence. Only Enca's vote sealed his fate.

Estelyn Telcontar · 10-24-2005, 09:59 PM

Let's sum up the situation and debate what we can best do. There are four of us left now - morm, Fea, Underhill and myself. As far as I can judge, all four of us are likely to be innocent. The three that we consider most likely to be guilty have already voted. How can we make the best of this situation?

Let's gather arguments for either of the two remaining and, should we decide to stick with the double lynching, decide which one of them should be included.

I think we're better off with short posts, exchanging ideas more quickly, than with long ones.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-24-2005, 10:04 PM

I agree on short posts, Esty.

Let's see...

'Cai votes for Boromir
Boromir votes for Boromir
TGWBS votes for TGWBS

We've still got votes available from

morm
Fea
Esty
Underhill

If we decide to kill TGWBS and Boromir, we only really need one more vote. If three abstain from voting, the two will die, and there is so minimal likelihood of anybody stopping the vote that even the precaution of having at least two extra innocents around is almost unnecessary, though just for safety, I say keep it.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-24-2005, 10:10 PM

'Cai votes for Boromir
Boromir votes for Boromir
TGWBS votes for TGWBS

We've still got votes available from

morm
Fea
Esty
Underhill

However if we decide to kill Boromir and Encai, we need at minimum two votes. I think it best for the group-chosen "most trusted" to abstain from voting. I highly doubt anything fishy will happen, given that the three top suspects have already voted, but you know... just in case. No such thing as being too careful.

And if we decide to just kill 'Cai, we need three of the four of us to vote for her, and the last probably just not to vote.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-24-2005, 10:17 PM

Jeez. Gods all bless the phantom for having a rule against everything. You'll note that I don't mention which gods, and what their opinions on a decent blessing are.

Right, so nix my previous voting plans, here are rule-fitting ones:

With Boromir having two votes, and TGWBS having one, we could kill them thus:

Fea votes TGWBS
Underhill votes Boromir
Esty votes TGWBS
morm votes Encai, just for the heck of it, saving him from auto-lynch

To kill Boro and Encai:

Fea votes Encai
Underhill votes Encai
Esty votes Encai
morm votes Boromir

***Mister Underhill*** · 10-24-2005, 10:18 PM

I don't know what to recommend. Enca has taken what looked like a pretty good situation and turned it upside down. Carelessness? I don't know. I'm feeling she has to go down one way or the other. Now the only other real question is whether to take B88 too.

I've been back and forth on him. There seems to be some wisdom in going for the double, even though I'm undecided. morm seems the likeliest target for the night if we miss. There's no way for a wolf to foist this catastrophe on him.

That would leave:

tgwbs
Esty
Mr. U
Fea

Then the ones who are left take out Shorty tomorrow.

Looks like our best shot at the moment.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-24-2005, 10:24 PM

I have a hypothetical question. Say we double-lynch today, and manage to get two innocents, then morm dies tonight, leaving Underhill's list of tgwbs, Esty, Underhill, and me...

Then we kill TGWBS and find out [remember my hypotheticalness, and you'll understand my question shortly] that he's also innocent...

Then say I'm killed off the next night...

Leaving two villagers, Esty and Underhillo. Do they kill each other leaving "Moderator Wins!!!"?

Estelyn Telcontar · 10-24-2005, 10:09 PM

OK, then let's gather arguments for lynching tgwbs first, then go back for Enca after that.

For most of the time, I thought that his involvement was helpful, but his voting record is strange. Now, his vote for himself could be a bluff on his part, a wolf cornered and defensive, but for some reason he just doesn't seem wolvish to me!

In post #321, he said:

Quote:

I voted for myself because I thought I was a little higher on people's lists...

Now wherever did he get that idea? I didn't see him high on any list!

Feanor of the Peredhil · 10-24-2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

What do you think Fea and also Mister? I'm pretty sure I want to get Encai gone though.

I say that we double Boromir and Encai and if that doesn't work, we take out TGWBS tomorrow.

10-24-2005, 09:38 PM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Tell me who to vote for, and I'll do it. Are we going to kill Boro and TGWBS? Are we going to vote Boro and Encai? Are we going to drop the double lynch and just kill her now and hope it works? __________________ peace

10-24-2005, 09:40 PM	#2
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	It sounds as though Esty is for the double still. I don't think I am because it needs to include Boromir. What do you think Fea and also Mister? I'm pretty sure I want to get Encai gone though. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

10-24-2005, 09:59 PM	#4
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Let's sum up the situation and debate what we can best do. There are four of us left now - morm, Fea, Underhill and myself. As far as I can judge, all four of us are likely to be innocent. The three that we consider most likely to be guilty have already voted. How can we make the best of this situation? Let's gather arguments for either of the two remaining and, should we decide to stick with the double lynching, decide which one of them should be included. I think we're better off with short posts, exchanging ideas more quickly, than with long ones. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

10-24-2005, 10:04 PM	#5
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I agree on short posts, Esty. Let's see... 'Cai votes for Boromir Boromir votes for Boromir TGWBS votes for TGWBS We've still got votes available from morm Fea Esty Underhill If we decide to kill TGWBS and Boromir, we only really need one more vote. If three abstain from voting, the two will die, and there is so minimal likelihood of anybody stopping the vote that even the precaution of having at least two extra innocents around is almost unnecessary, though just for safety, I say keep it. __________________ peace

10-24-2005, 10:10 PM	#6
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	'Cai votes for Boromir Boromir votes for Boromir TGWBS votes for TGWBS We've still got votes available from morm Fea Esty Underhill However if we decide to kill Boromir and Encai, we need at minimum two votes. I think it best for the group-chosen "most trusted" to abstain from voting. I highly doubt anything fishy will happen, given that the three top suspects have already voted, but you know... just in case. No such thing as being too careful. And if we decide to just kill 'Cai, we need three of the four of us to vote for her, and the last probably just not to vote. __________________ peace

10-24-2005, 09:45 PM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	morm, please explain why you now think Boro innocent - I don't see it. And as long as he's possibly guilty, a double lynching is a good idea. Sure, he voted for himself, which would be a stupid move for a wolf, but he did so at a time when that move would seem to show his innocence. Only Enca's vote sealed his fate. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...' Last edited by Estelyn Telcontar; 10-24-2005 at 09:48 PM.

10-24-2005, 10:17 PM	#7
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Jeez. Gods all bless the phantom for having a rule against everything. You'll note that I don't mention which gods, and what their opinions on a decent blessing are. Right, so nix my previous voting plans, here are rule-fitting ones: With Boromir having two votes, and TGWBS having one, we could kill them thus: Fea votes TGWBS Underhill votes Boromir Esty votes TGWBS morm votes Encai, just for the heck of it, saving him from auto-lynch To kill Boro and Encai: Fea votes Encai Underhill votes Encai Esty votes Encai morm votes Boromir __________________ peace

10-24-2005, 10:18 PM	#8
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	I don't know what to recommend. Enca has taken what looked like a pretty good situation and turned it upside down. Carelessness? I don't know. I'm feeling she has to go down one way or the other. Now the only other real question is whether to take B88 too. I've been back and forth on him. There seems to be some wisdom in going for the double, even though I'm undecided. morm seems the likeliest target for the night if we miss. There's no way for a wolf to foist this catastrophe on him. That would leave: tgwbs Esty Mr. U Fea Then the ones who are left take out Shorty tomorrow. Looks like our best shot at the moment.

10-24-2005, 10:24 PM	#9
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	think open-mindedly I have a hypothetical question. Say we double-lynch today, and manage to get two innocents, then morm dies tonight, leaving Underhill's list of tgwbs, Esty, Underhill, and me... Then we kill TGWBS and find out [remember my hypotheticalness, and you'll understand my question shortly] that he's also innocent... Then say I'm killed off the next night... Leaving two villagers, Esty and Underhillo. Do they kill each other leaving "Moderator Wins!!!"? __________________ peace

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