Prisoner of Númenor Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-11-2005, 03:48 PM

Much though I hate to admit that I don't know what I'm doing yet, Kath's death is still up for grabs. Does anybody feel strongly either way for her life or death?

piosenniel · 11-11-2005, 06:00 PM

Read-along fan here . . .

I'm placing my preferences for Kath's death . . . with a last fevered rally, perhaps, as the ship slips away from the island and some final words of hope expressed by her . . .

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-11-2005, 08:53 PM

Hm... one for a death. Anybody else?

littlemanpoet · 11-12-2005, 03:34 PM

As the writer for the girl's father, I want my close companion to stay alive, but that's really Mabalar's point of view. Either way works for me.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-12-2005, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

As the writer for the girl's father, I want my close companion to stay alive, but that's really Mabalar's point of view. Either way works for me.

Playing Devil's Advocate here...

Do you not think that it would be beautifully bittersweet that Mabalar was saved from tragedy only to lose his daughter in the process? How would he cope, I wonder, and how would Inzi deal? Ah, the beautiful tension that it would cause in the otherwise happy ending. So very Tolkienesque, don't you think, for every victory to be a partial defeat?

littlemanpoet · 11-12-2005, 07:13 PM

Well now. This hits home harder than I would have thought it could. Worth a Books discussion, I bet. Theoden and Denethor lost their first born sons. Theoden had a nephew and niece remaining to him, Denethor a second son. Mabalar has neither, but he does have his relative youth and a wife with whom he could have more children. There are few things worse to a parent than losing a child, especially a grown one in the flower of youth. Bittersweet victory? More like a tragedy. You know that if is was really you, you would give your life so that your daughter could live. Taking this more personally than I expected, sorry.

Regin Hardhammer · 11-12-2005, 09:17 PM

My post is up. I didn't really advance the story much because I don't know what direction the story is going. I like the idea of the fake repentence of Herugor, although you can bet Azarmano will still be suspicious. With regards to the Kathaani question, I think that it would be more dramatic to have her die. So that's my vote. But I really don't feel strongly about it. What needs to happen before we board the ships story-wise? Will the game end as we are sailing off into the ocean and away from Numenor?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-12-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

You know that if is was really you, you would give your life so that your daughter could live.

I presume that I would. However, would my daughter let me? Kath is old enough to choose her own fate; that is why she was allowed to go off to save her father in the first place. Her parents can no longer take care of her as the child she was, because she is no longer that child. If her parents attempted to give their lives for hers, would she allow it? Would she rather see the futility of the situation, hoping against hope that they didn't do anything stupid and kept themselves alive to help people that weren't beyond aid? Do you see my reasoning? Kath's death and the complete and total uninvolvment of her parents would be coming of age with a vengeance, I suppose.

Second thing: Regin: much though I love your post, you have Regin with Kathaani. I've had her taken away in advance so that she is currently alone save for unimportant side characters. It doesn't match up.

Himaran · 11-13-2005, 07:44 PM

Pio: Could you please place this post above Post #102 in the game thread? Thanks!

PLACED ON GAME -- PIO

__________________________startpost

Himaran's post

As he rushed out out onto the winding stairwell, Abarzadan heard the main door to the estate crash open. Crouching, he peered over the railing and watched as heavily armed guards poured into the atrium. The reason for Abadana's disappearance instantly became clear. But what to do? An armour-plated captain shouted orders to his men and they started up the staircase. There was no way to go but up. Keeping his head low, Abarzadan ascended on his belly, scrambling as quickly as his four limbs would carry him. The pounding footsteps behind him grew close, than faded into the study. Not much time. Forgetting any preconcieved notions of stealth, the man threw caution to the wind, stood, and bounded up to the next level.

Betrayed. The whole affair had been a farce, starting with his "unexpected" meeting with Ellinel. She recognized the name, ensnared him with her charm and appearance, and brought him to her father for the slaughter. As the man continued his unconventional escape, he vowed to cheat them again, just as his father had so many years before. Bursting through a nearby door, Abarzadan found himself in a loud, steamy and bustling kitchen. Cooks and porters yelled with surprise as he leaped over a counter and tore threw an array of stoves, kicking and tipping over various barrels and cauldrons in his mad flight. A lone, enraged worker brandishing a knife blocked his exit, but slowing down was no longer an option for the man. He waited until the last possible second before snatching an empty kettle, knocking the implement aside and fleeing from the scene. Slamming the door behind him, Abarzadan jammed it with a nearby stool before turning and finding himself at a dead end.

The window.

Snatching a broom from its customary place on the wall, he smashed the expensive but delicate glass and glanced out. He was two stories above the ground, too far up to jump. Unlike the stories he had often read as a child, there was no tall haywagon conveniently sitting just below him. Shouting behind him, someone shoving on the door.

Then he saw the pipe.

Naturally, any wealthy man's house would have a functional sewer system, and this one was no exception. The waste must run down, so... Careful of the remaining glass, Abarzadan clasped both arms around the thick clay cylinder and pulled his body out with them. Then he started sliding. The stool was knocked aside. Guards swarmed in, found an empty room with a broken window, and looked out. There was no one in sight.

Documents in hand, Abarzadan sprinted down the street. Locals eyed him briefly before sighing, turning and continuing with their business. A tremble sent him tumbling to the earth, but he pulled himself up and hurried unward. Where was he going? Up ahead, the man saw the crown of the temple. Perhaps even now as he hurried towards it, his past companions were being bled or burned to death on one of its pagan alters. There was absolutely no logical reason to head towards it, especially now that he had escaped two deathtraps in the same day. Yet something, a force not dark or sinister, seemed to be drawing him to it. Maybe the Valar wish for me to make a stand. Maybe it is my time.

But Kali, waiting alone in the shadow of the temple, knew better.

_____________________endpost

Well, since LMP stated that as "They turned and began to canter back toward Rómenna when they heard the hard galloping of a single horse," Abarzadan's journey in and return from Armenelos is complete. I will definitely write a closing post, with him meeting (and perhaps lying to) Malabar, but if I find time I will also write one about his ride away from city.

Himaran · 11-29-2005, 06:38 PM

Arg! School is bogging me down. I would really like to write a post about Abar meeting Malabar and... explaining their relationship. That, and a final post about Abar's feelings regarding his father, the journey and the plot to kill his family. All coming soon!

... gone but not forgotten...

- Him

11-11-2005, 06:00 PM	#2
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Read-along fan here . . . I'm placing my preferences for Kath's death . . . with a last fevered rally, perhaps, as the ship slips away from the island and some final words of hope expressed by her . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

11-11-2005, 08:53 PM	#3
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Hm... one for a death. Anybody else? __________________ peace

11-12-2005, 09:17 PM	#7
Regin Hardhammer Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tumunzahar/Nogrod Posts: 364	My post is up. I didn't really advance the story much because I don't know what direction the story is going. I like the idea of the fake repentence of Herugor, although you can bet Azarmano will still be suspicious. With regards to the Kathaani question, I think that it would be more dramatic to have her die. So that's my vote. But I really don't feel strongly about it. What needs to happen before we board the ships story-wise? Will the game end as we are sailing off into the ocean and away from Numenor? __________________ For once I myself saw with my own eyes the Sibyl at Cumae hanging in a bottle, and when the boys said to her: 'Sibyl, what do you want?' she replied, 'I want to die.'" Last edited by Regin Hardhammer; 11-12-2005 at 09:30 PM.

11-13-2005, 07:44 PM	#9
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	Pio: Could you please place this post above Post #102 in the game thread? Thanks! PLACED ON GAME -- PIO __________________________startpost Himaran's post As he rushed out out onto the winding stairwell, Abarzadan heard the main door to the estate crash open. Crouching, he peered over the railing and watched as heavily armed guards poured into the atrium. The reason for Abadana's disappearance instantly became clear. But what to do? An armour-plated captain shouted orders to his men and they started up the staircase. There was no way to go but up. Keeping his head low, Abarzadan ascended on his belly, scrambling as quickly as his four limbs would carry him. The pounding footsteps behind him grew close, than faded into the study. Not much time. Forgetting any preconcieved notions of stealth, the man threw caution to the wind, stood, and bounded up to the next level. Betrayed. The whole affair had been a farce, starting with his "unexpected" meeting with Ellinel. She recognized the name, ensnared him with her charm and appearance, and brought him to her father for the slaughter. As the man continued his unconventional escape, he vowed to cheat them again, just as his father had so many years before. Bursting through a nearby door, Abarzadan found himself in a loud, steamy and bustling kitchen. Cooks and porters yelled with surprise as he leaped over a counter and tore threw an array of stoves, kicking and tipping over various barrels and cauldrons in his mad flight. A lone, enraged worker brandishing a knife blocked his exit, but slowing down was no longer an option for the man. He waited until the last possible second before snatching an empty kettle, knocking the implement aside and fleeing from the scene. Slamming the door behind him, Abarzadan jammed it with a nearby stool before turning and finding himself at a dead end. The window. Snatching a broom from its customary place on the wall, he smashed the expensive but delicate glass and glanced out. He was two stories above the ground, too far up to jump. Unlike the stories he had often read as a child, there was no tall haywagon conveniently sitting just below him. Shouting behind him, someone shoving on the door. Then he saw the pipe. Naturally, any wealthy man's house would have a functional sewer system, and this one was no exception. The waste must run down, so... Careful of the remaining glass, Abarzadan clasped both arms around the thick clay cylinder and pulled his body out with them. Then he started sliding. The stool was knocked aside. Guards swarmed in, found an empty room with a broken window, and looked out. There was no one in sight. Documents in hand, Abarzadan sprinted down the street. Locals eyed him briefly before sighing, turning and continuing with their business. A tremble sent him tumbling to the earth, but he pulled himself up and hurried unward. Where was he going? Up ahead, the man saw the crown of the temple. Perhaps even now as he hurried towards it, his past companions were being bled or burned to death on one of its pagan alters. There was absolutely no logical reason to head towards it, especially now that he had escaped two deathtraps in the same day. Yet something, a force not dark or sinister, seemed to be drawing him to it. Maybe the Valar wish for me to make a stand. Maybe it is my time. But Kali, waiting alone in the shadow of the temple, knew better. _____________________endpost Well, since LMP stated that as "They turned and began to canter back toward Rómenna when they heard the hard galloping of a single horse," Abarzadan's journey in and return from Armenelos is complete. I will definitely write a closing post, with him meeting (and perhaps lying to) Malabar, but if I find time I will also write one about his ride away from city. Last edited by piosenniel; 11-13-2005 at 09:13 PM.

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11-11-2005, 03:48 PM	#1
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Much though I hate to admit that I don't know what I'm doing yet, Kath's death is still up for grabs. Does anybody feel strongly either way for her life or death? __________________ peace

11-12-2005, 03:34 PM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	As the writer for the girl's father, I want my close companion to stay alive, but that's really Mabalar's point of view. Either way works for me.

11-12-2005, 07:13 PM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Well now. This hits home harder than I would have thought it could. Worth a Books discussion, I bet. Theoden and Denethor lost their first born sons. Theoden had a nephew and niece remaining to him, Denethor a second son. Mabalar has neither, but he does have his relative youth and a wife with whom he could have more children. There are few things worse to a parent than losing a child, especially a grown one in the flower of youth. Bittersweet victory? More like a tragedy. You know that if is was really you, you would give your life so that your daughter could live. Taking this more personally than I expected, sorry.

11-29-2005, 06:38 PM	#10
Himaran Ash of Orodruin Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thangorodrim Posts: 777	Arg! School is bogging me down. I would really like to write a post about Abar meeting Malabar and... explaining their relationship. That, and a final post about Abar's feelings regarding his father, the journey and the plot to kill his family. All coming soon! ... gone but not forgotten... - Him