Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIII: Enter Shamville

[Eonwe]

man, we so should have followed through with lmp's plan and lynched glirdan. that would have cleared up allot. no glirdan (or offense either, by the way), and the votes would be much nicer to look at. oh well.

ok, i don't have much else to say, other than

++kitanna

don't like how she talks, especially today, adn don't like how she voted. if i was a wolf, i would first in line to stab wayne. she was second.

[wilwarin538]

I to must vote early I'm afraid.

++Kitanna

Now its pretty obvious that I'm dead toNight, so this will most likely be my last post ever.

I'm thinking Glirdan and LMP are innocent.

I'd lynch Lalaith tomorrow.

Can't say much about Tar.

Sorry its so short, but I gotta run. Its been fun!

[Kitanna]

Well I'm too busy today to go back and read through everything. And it seems stupid and pointless for me now anyway.

++ Kitanna

[Firefoot]

Let's see, I don't really have to add a lot to what's been said. I'm rather confused by Kitanna's response; that is not the type of response I would have expected from her. Her vote puts the voting at:

Lalaith – 1 (Glirdan 1)
Kitanna – 4 (tar 2, Eonwe 3, Wilwa 4, Kitanna 5)

There are four votes left - myself, LMP, Ang (who has said he may not be around), and Lalaith. Right now I'd say it looks pretty certain that Kitanna's going to be the (only) one dying toDay. It seems unlikely to me that she is the Hunter, since if she were I don't think she would be quite so bitter. So tomorrow that will in all likelihood leave us with Lalaith, Glirdan, and tar (and LMP, but I really don't suspect him much. His analyses were most helpful), one or two of whom to be wolves. If Kitanna is a wolf, I will be looking at Glirdan and tar tomorrow, since, as I have said before, I doubt all three wolves voted the same way on Day 2. I probably would have preferred to lynch one of them today but that doesn't seem to be much of an option. I don't think double lynching is the best solution to the problem here; we should probably just go with Kitanna today and then take it from there.

[Lalaith]

Why did you do that Kitanna? The field was still open, there were five of us left to vote...and I for one would only have voted for you if I had to, to save myself. You're not very high on my list of suspects. Mind you, my list is a bit of a mess at the moment. Sigh. I've now read all the posts of today and I'm still not feeling at all confident about anything.

And it's so hard to know just what Lalaith thinks

Tell me about it, tar-a, today I don't know what to think. I know what tar-a means about logic going round in circles. Part of the problem is that there are still doubts swirling around in my mind, I'll feel more clear and focused tomorrow. (I'm assuming here that I will still be here tomorrow, and that poor Wilwa will be killed tonight...)
And I personally would have much preferred wilwa to dream of someone other than Eonwe, who I was already feeling fairly comfortable about.
One point I should clear up, LMP:

What would a werewolf's purpose be in bringing me up,

What I was referring to was my earlier bit of paranoia, whereby you, wilwa and Firefoot were all werewolves, I realised that my reasoning was flawed because it was unlikely for you and wilwa both to be werewolves due to voting patterns. (And of course that particular triumvirate theory has now collapsed anyway as Wayne was a wolf.)
My inclination, given my current confusion, is to go with the consensus today.

(just seen Firefoot's post, clearly as surprised by Kitanna as I am)

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Why did you do that Kitanna?

I'd like to explain the stupid and pointless thing to clear up confusion. Personally, I will not have the time to say anything for the last few days. I have a mountain of homework waiting to get done. So I feel for me to stay in and only have time to come on and vote without any reason is silly for me to do. It's not going to help anyone if I do that. That's why I voted for myself.

[Lalaith]

Ah, ok. Well maybe it's for the best then.
++KITANNA

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I'd like to explain the stupid and pointless thing to clear up confusion. Personally, I will not have the time to say anything for the last few days. I have a mountain of homework waiting to get done. So I feel for me to stay in and only have time to come on and vote without any reason is silly for me to do. It's not going to help anyone if I do that. That's why I voted for myself.

In other words, Kitanna's vote for herself tells us nothing about her guilt or innocence. That's what I suspected.

I'm rather intrigued by tar's take on Occam's Razor, such that Kitanna is one werewolf, leaving Glir, Lal, & me as a "triumverate" amongst whom there is one more. On that logic, I know I'm not a werewolf (I don't expect anybody to take that at face value, decide for yourselves), I am confident that Glirdan is not a werewolf, and would like to hear more from Firefoot why she thinks he is, which leaves (of the triuverate), Lalaith as the remaining werewolf. That is, of course, presuming the innocence of tar, which is in no wise a cleared up issue for me. However, enough votes may be garnered for a double lynching again, of Kitanna & Lalaith, but only with the cooperation of Lalaith. Hah. Fat chance. Since that's the case, I might as well put in my vote for....

++ KITANNA

..... well aware that mine is the deciding vote. If she is a werewolf, my credibility is improved (though not guaranteed); if she is innocent, I suddenly look pretty bad ... again. But that's not guaranteed either.

One last thing to point out: there are two people about whom we keep on saying "says much and gives analysis but you can't determine guilt or innocence by it" - those two are Kitanna & Lalaith. But to complicate things, I find the same thing to be true of tar-ancalime. So in my opinion, which is actually only reiterating what I've said before, our two werwolves are to be found amongst those three.

Finally, thanks very much, Wilwa, for identifying a werewolf and bestowing upon us three known innocents. You have really aided the chances of a villager victory .... that is, if you're not lying through your teeth. With no Ranger, the werewolves must kill you tonight, so I bid you in advance fond rememberances: may you rest in peace, though I do not doubt it will also be in pieces.

If Wilwa survives the night, it is because the werewolves are making a desperate gambit to make her look like a liar and throw us all off the hunt. So just in case, let me suggest that Wilwa dream of Lalaith, and the Hunter pick the same. Those are suggestions, of course; I have never tried to force myself upon this group as leader, though I have been accused of it. I can't help it if you see me as a likely leader, but I have never demanded it of anyone. Just a little "bone" to pick there (coughLalaithcough).

EDIT: cross posted with Lalaith. I may have typed out my vote before she did, but that doesn't count. Therefore, the "cleared" or "not cleared" that is no guarantee now falls to Lal as much as me. Well, that's just mucky and mirey as most of this game has been, since we yet again have a bandwagon.

[wilwarin538]

Actually I have reread every post since the start of the game. I admit I might have been wrong about Lalaith. I'm going to dream of tar-a toNight, if anything to get rid of this uncertainty I now have for her.

It seems that ever since the start both Kitanna and tar-a, and Wayne for that matter were all very quiet. Though Tar and Kitanna posted a little more. It just seems like both of them have been doing a good job of avoiding suspicion, for the most part.

I think perhaps that Tar would be a better lynch choice for toMorrow.

Now that was definetely my last post.

Again, its been fun, and thanks LMP.

[Firefoot]

As for why I think Glirdan could be a wolf... it's basically because I haven't seen anything to make him seem innocent to me. He is less suspicious than tar and about the same as Lalaith right now. At this point, there are so few suspects that anyone who doesn't actually seem innocent to me is on my suspect list. Of those three, tar is my top suspect.

And even though it's pretty pointless:

++Kitanna