Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIV: Nyárë Nauroron Númenoreva - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Formendacil · 12-11-2005, 05:10 PM

The final hour of the day draws nigh, and our voted-for frontrunners are Lhuna and Aiwendil.

As regards our front-runner, Aiwendil, I am inclined to think that he innocent. He COULD be a Werewolf, and even if he's innocent, his death could have some interesting implications...

However, this village is rather small as of know, and if Aiwendil isn't guilty, and since I'm not guilty, then that leaves six people, of whom two are guilty- assuming that Aiwendil is not, which I am going to take for a given, for the purposes of this voting choice, since I don't think him guilty enough to lynch.

As noted, I have a one in three chance. Not stellar... but better than we started with...

Our only other candidate thus far voted for, Lhuna, is overall a better candidate than Aiwendil, if only on the basis of her quiet habits this game. While it's true that she's in another timezone- and thus only really gets in on the conversation before it really boils over- it is possible that she is simply a werewolf playing a quiet game. I could be wrong, but I'm going to trust that timezone excuse for at least another day.

Boromir88 has, thus far, seemed innocent and helpful, but I don't entirely trust him, and its tempting to vote him off just on the basis of his "dun"s and the like. I mean, who wants to have to translate as well as think when reading a post?

I'm being facetious, however. This is no longer DAY1, and the time for randomly voting based on silly excuses is over.

Fordhim, if the cobbler- which I am starting to think more likely, based on the persuasive arguments in that direction- is, in my opinion, freer therefore from lynching, since being the Cobbler means that he is NOT a Werewolf. So, if I scratch him off of my "probables" list, then I'm down to a 2/5 chance of voting Werewolf.

Morm has played a VERY typically Morm game: holding votes till the end, trying to use his rhetoric to direct everyone else's votes, and organising a roundtable analysis. It so similar to his, innocent, performance, that I'm really thinking that he's innocent. However, if he is a Werewolf, wouldn't this be the most natural thing to do? And, if so, it's really working...

Holbytlass was my candidate to analyse, and I'm less assured-feeling of her innocence than I am of Morm, but she's hardly on my "guilty" list. If I vote for her, it'll probably be because everyone else looks so clean, rather than that she looks dirty.

And so I come to Kath, the last on the list, and easy to overlook because of her silence. As with Aiwendil, I'm rather suspicious of this quietude, and I wouldn't be surprised to find a wolf hiding in that quiet corner. On the other hand, as with Lhuna, I'm hesitant to vote for her based simply on that.

So, to decide...

Of my seven possible votes, I've decided to cross Aiwendil off. Fordhim, assuming (wrongly or rightly) that he's the Cobbler, is also exempt. I've allowed myself to let Lhuna go.

That leaves:

Boromir
Holbytlass
Kath
Morm

Of the three, I'm thinking that Morm is the most innocent. So off the list he goes... I have no real concerns about Holbytlass, so off she goes.

Boromir and Kath...

As hesitant as I am to vote for a quiet person...

Kath looks the most suspicious to me today. I guess I she gets the short straw...

Kath

Formendacil · 12-11-2005, 05:11 PM

Oops...

forgot those plus signs...

++ Kath

mormegil · 12-11-2005, 05:14 PM

Kath or Lhuna? I'm slightly inclined to vote either but unsure I hope to return in 30 mins to vote.

Kath · 12-11-2005, 05:22 PM

I'm not sure I should really appeal to save myself since I'm not totally sure of Lhuna's guilt, but if I don't then you will for certain be lynching an innocent rather than only possibly doing so. On the other hand I don't want to cause a double lynching because if I vote for Lhuna and then the two of you vote for me it's possible that two innocents will die and that's even worse.

So speak to me morm, Aiwendil - what do I do here? Bearing in mind I have but eight minutes to decide.

Aiwendil · 12-11-2005, 05:14 PM

Now Formendacil has done just what I advised against - voted without: 1. putting the name forward first in case she's Gifted and 2. making sure there are at least two other people willing to vote for Kath.

Now, as it happens, I am willing to vote for Kath. So I guess that leaves Mormegil and me to decide 'twixt Kath and Lhuna.

Morm - thoughts?

Formendacil · 12-11-2005, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

Now Formendacil has done just what I advised against - voted without: 1. putting the name forward first in case she's Gifted and 2. making sure there are at least two other people willing to vote for Kath.

Now, as it happens, I am willing to vote for Kath. So I guess that leaves Mormegil and me to decide 'twixt Kath and Lhuna.

Morm - thoughts?

So far you are leading the voting, Master Aiwendil, and with less than an hour left, I am rather doubtful that we shall see either of them, particularly our dearly Filipina Lhuna make an appearance ere the end of the day.

And, if they do, they neither will be lynched by me. Only if others arrive and vote for them as well.

Aiwendil · 12-11-2005, 05:24 PM

You're right; my apologies. I guess that with two votes against me, I get a little jittery.

Aiwendil · 12-11-2005, 05:25 PM

Cross-post with Kath.

Kath - I don't know what to tell you. It looks like we'll either lynch you or Lhunardawen, so if you can convince us that she's more likely to be guilty, then go for it.

Kath · 12-11-2005, 05:36 PM

But my only defence really is the knowledge that I am innocent versus the unsurety of Lhuna's status. And with her lack of posting it's hard to find an argument against her. The only one I ever had was that she was a bit too polite toward mormegil, who I suspected at the time when I wrote that. But then she turned right around and made a case against him. So her being a turncoat is about all I can think of!

Kath · 12-11-2005, 05:39 PM

Hmm, and it may be possible of course that she and morm are working together, and this was all a ploy to throw us off that idea. Just mentioning because I still think a loud person is a wolf and since I was wrong about Sauce my suspicion falls on morm. Though that might be too obvious a move for a clever player like Lhuna. The thing is that I don't categorically know that Lhuna is a wolf, but she is more likely to be one than me, and to my mind not likely to be a Gifted.

Formendacil · 12-11-2005, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aiwendil

You're right; my apologies. I guess that with two votes against me, I get a little jittery.

That I can understand.

And I just had a horrible last-hour thought... what if the REAL reason Morm wants the Gifted to reveal themselves is so that HE knows who to eat tonight. Unlike in light of his past record, but still a scary thought... I hope that's all it is... just a scary thought.

12-11-2005, 05:10 PM	#1
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	The final hour of the day draws nigh, and our voted-for frontrunners are Lhuna and Aiwendil. As regards our front-runner, Aiwendil, I am inclined to think that he innocent. He COULD be a Werewolf, and even if he's innocent, his death could have some interesting implications... However, this village is rather small as of know, and if Aiwendil isn't guilty, and since I'm not guilty, then that leaves six people, of whom two are guilty- assuming that Aiwendil is not, which I am going to take for a given, for the purposes of this voting choice, since I don't think him guilty enough to lynch. As noted, I have a one in three chance. Not stellar... but better than we started with... Our only other candidate thus far voted for, Lhuna, is overall a better candidate than Aiwendil, if only on the basis of her quiet habits this game. While it's true that she's in another timezone- and thus only really gets in on the conversation before it really boils over- it is possible that she is simply a werewolf playing a quiet game. I could be wrong, but I'm going to trust that timezone excuse for at least another day. Boromir88 has, thus far, seemed innocent and helpful, but I don't entirely trust him, and its tempting to vote him off just on the basis of his "dun"s and the like. I mean, who wants to have to translate as well as think when reading a post? I'm being facetious, however. This is no longer DAY1, and the time for randomly voting based on silly excuses is over. Fordhim, if the cobbler- which I am starting to think more likely, based on the persuasive arguments in that direction- is, in my opinion, freer therefore from lynching, since being the Cobbler means that he is NOT a Werewolf. So, if I scratch him off of my "probables" list, then I'm down to a 2/5 chance of voting Werewolf. Morm has played a VERY typically Morm game: holding votes till the end, trying to use his rhetoric to direct everyone else's votes, and organising a roundtable analysis. It so similar to his, innocent, performance, that I'm really thinking that he's innocent. However, if he is a Werewolf, wouldn't this be the most natural thing to do? And, if so, it's really working... Holbytlass was my candidate to analyse, and I'm less assured-feeling of her innocence than I am of Morm, but she's hardly on my "guilty" list. If I vote for her, it'll probably be because everyone else looks so clean, rather than that she looks dirty. And so I come to Kath, the last on the list, and easy to overlook because of her silence. As with Aiwendil, I'm rather suspicious of this quietude, and I wouldn't be surprised to find a wolf hiding in that quiet corner. On the other hand, as with Lhuna, I'm hesitant to vote for her based simply on that. So, to decide... Of my seven possible votes, I've decided to cross Aiwendil off. Fordhim, assuming (wrongly or rightly) that he's the Cobbler, is also exempt. I've allowed myself to let Lhuna go. That leaves: Boromir Holbytlass Kath Morm Of the three, I'm thinking that Morm is the most innocent. So off the list he goes... I have no real concerns about Holbytlass, so off she goes. Boromir and Kath... As hesitant as I am to vote for a quiet person... Kath looks the most suspicious to me today. I guess I she gets the short straw... Kath __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

12-11-2005, 05:11 PM	#2
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Oops... forgot those plus signs... ++ Kath __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

12-11-2005, 05:14 PM	#3
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Kath or Lhuna? I'm slightly inclined to vote either but unsure I hope to return in 30 mins to vote. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

12-11-2005, 05:22 PM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I'm not sure I should really appeal to save myself since I'm not totally sure of Lhuna's guilt, but if I don't then you will for certain be lynching an innocent rather than only possibly doing so. On the other hand I don't want to cause a double lynching because if I vote for Lhuna and then the two of you vote for me it's possible that two innocents will die and that's even worse. So speak to me morm, Aiwendil - what do I do here? Bearing in mind I have but eight minutes to decide. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

12-11-2005, 05:36 PM	#9
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	But my only defence really is the knowledge that I am innocent versus the unsurety of Lhuna's status. And with her lack of posting it's hard to find an argument against her. The only one I ever had was that she was a bit too polite toward mormegil, who I suspected at the time when I wrote that. But then she turned right around and made a case against him. So her being a turncoat is about all I can think of! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

12-11-2005, 05:14 PM	#5
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Now Formendacil has done just what I advised against - voted without: 1. putting the name forward first in case she's Gifted and 2. making sure there are at least two other people willing to vote for Kath. Now, as it happens, I am willing to vote for Kath. So I guess that leaves Mormegil and me to decide 'twixt Kath and Lhuna. Morm - thoughts?

12-11-2005, 05:24 PM	#7
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	You're right; my apologies. I guess that with two votes against me, I get a little jittery.

12-11-2005, 05:25 PM	#8
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	Cross-post with Kath. Kath - I don't know what to tell you. It looks like we'll either lynch you or Lhunardawen, so if you can convince us that she's more likely to be guilty, then go for it.

12-11-2005, 05:39 PM	#10
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Hmm, and it may be possible of course that she and morm are working together, and this was all a ploy to throw us off that idea. Just mentioning because I still think a loud person is a wolf and since I was wrong about Sauce my suspicion falls on morm. Though that might be too obvious a move for a clever player like Lhuna. The thing is that I don't categorically know that Lhuna is a wolf, but she is more likely to be one than me, and to my mind not likely to be a Gifted. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

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