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Old 12-22-2005, 03:08 AM   #1
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Well, well, Farael, giving up the fight already are we? Let me tell you this, you remind me of someone I know: me. Therefore I think you really are innocent. Not that that made sense.

The time is drawing near for me to leave, and so I will once again think back and think well. Then vote.
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Old 12-22-2005, 03:20 AM   #2
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Silmaril triple-posting...cool!

Well, I'm rather unwilling to vote for Nonnacedak just yet. I know I haven't mentioned him much toNight but he really doesn't sit well with me. He fits in with Rune's categorization of the heroes anyway, if we'll believe him.

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Old 12-22-2005, 04:31 AM   #3
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My apologies for not being around earlier.

I will also apologise for being so useless up to now. With all my recent treachery in the lands of Beleriand and Middle-earth I had forgotten just how difficult it is to discover the secrets of traitors. I can make little sense of what has happened so far. I am utterly clueless as to who the Heroes are; however I am fairly certain of the identity of two innocents and, now, three gifteds.

I'll be back on in a little while with my suspect list.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:40 AM   #4
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Hmm... puzzles... let me see.

Eomer, I already see that you believe Oddwen and Kath innocent (but not gifted). I'm inclined to agree with you there. You said you (thought you) knew two gifted, and now three. The possible third person jumping to my mind is Farael, who hinted earlier at being gifted. I don't know whether to believe Farael or not, his post really made little difference in my suspicion. It could just as easily be a hero bluff as a gifted hint, although for some reason I feel that I should want to believe him gifted (if that makes sense). If you do speak of Farael, please explain; why do you believe him?
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:11 AM   #5
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There would have been absolutely no good reason for a Hero-Farael to say what he said. He could well have died soon before, but now he will certainly die soon.

Check out Rune's post #127 (I think that's the right number—it's about there, anyway). Maybe it's just the strange wording, but he seems to be saying:

1) I voted for Wayne.

2) I didn't really suspect Wayne.

3) I believe him innocent.

4) And then ignores him.

It's as if Rune is implying that we should all presume Wayne's innocence, at a time when Rune's guilt was very much secret.

This strikes me as a clumsy attempt to cross swords with each other, and then reconcile soon after; so that when the guilt of one was found, the innocence of t'other would be presumed.

Now, this theory is clearly unworthy due to the lack of content in Wayne's posts. I will have a quick scurry and try to find any evidence in his words. There's a good chance that Wayne is an innocent bystander here, but I'll try to judge that by reviewing his posts. I'll be back in a few minutes.
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:36 AM   #6
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Some people seems to have guessed what I never meant to imply. When I said that I would not be the only one regretting my loss I meant to say that you werewolves (and warg) would regret devouring an innocent.

Yet it seems that comment was more of a freudian slip for now I gather I have given myself out as gifted. Now you shall all know the truth for I will play a dangerous game. I said that I'm no werewolf and I did not lie to you. I should have said I am not just about any other werewolf for I am mightyer than our crabby old wolf. I am Carcharoth the powerful, Carcharoth the mighty. I shall give my life for my Dark Lord Sauron, for I know that the good Draugluin will not be able to protect him to-night.

I know some of you will say I am just bluffing, that I picked up on what Gurthang said and now I'm posing as the mighty wolf. But mark my words, fellow werewolves, should I be devoured tonight it will be a big loss for all of us.

I am a little concerned over Gurthang and Eomer pretty much talking to each other, but given that it is fairly late in North America and fairly early in England, it might just be that they know they are the only ones around on that timezone.

Still, unless someone convinces me of Meneltarmacil's innocence, I shall take him down with me when I'm dead. I have no hopes of surviving to-morrow, but I will gladly give my life for my Dark Lord.

I will love to see Meneltarmacil devoured and to get an oportunity to slay the remaining Hero when I fall, victory shall yet be ours!!

Voice your thoughts, howl at me and curse me for revealing myself in such fashion but there is still enough moonlight and enough uncasted votes to finish this deal before the sun sets.

Finally, I'd like to say that I shall not ask for the other gifteds to speak up as this has been my choice, or rather my reaction to the fact that some people seem to have picked up my secret.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRAAARRRRRRRRRR I shall taste hero blood.

Note: Eomer voted before I could wrap up this post. I'm sorry, for I would have wanted you to re-consider your vote in light of this facts... you say Meneltarmacil to be Innocent? enlighten me.
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Old 12-22-2005, 04:32 AM   #7
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I could vote for Gurthang to save my furry face, but has anyone noted the lack of real arguments Menel has had against me?

He basically went for defending me for being just a little different to suspecting me because I say little. This change of mind also happened after Huan was revealed, and I must admit that I could have been confusing for some honest wolves searching for the truth. He was also the first one to vote for Rune, so he could not know we would actually devour Rune after all. Here's an interesting tidbit I found on post number 187

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It seems my theory may have been correct. Rune, "Hero #3," is now dead, and that leaves Heroes 1 and 2, at least one of which likely voted for Glirdan the first round. I find it unlikely that one of them voted for Rune, at least not early on.
(my emphasis)

Was he not the first one to vote for Rune? I might be mistaken as it is quite late and I might have the context wrong, but I was going over his posts looking for any serious reasons for suspecting me and I have found this instead. Also, he did vote Gilrdan on the first night, for those of you suspecting someone from that group of voters (in which I'm included)

Having a retaliatory vote is not exactly what I need right now but if anyone, my suspect included, explains to me both his lack of reasons for voting this innocent man and his slip up regarding Rune's devouring, I shall publicly apologise to...

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Old 12-22-2005, 04:34 AM   #8
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Just read Gurthang's last post.... perhaps my little recolection of facts against Menel will change your views of his 'innocence'? it seems you have some evidence -circumstantial, as all evidence we seem to have- against him.
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