Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVI: No man is an Island

[Cailín]

There are votes and suspicions against me because:

- Kath indicated that she found my posts worrisome (though not insensible nor particularly strange, only because she was agreeing with me. Since she is the Cobbler she probably did not think me a wolf, really, and probably only said she agreed with me, while really thinking the opposite. Or not.).

Originally Posted by Kath

In fact Cailin has come to my attention a few times while reading through this thread. Very quick to accuse but is hanging back on a vote. Thing is that everything she says makes perfect sense and is exactly what I'm thinking (which is why it's driving me nuts and making me suspicious of her).

This is the quote in question.

- I pointed out that I suspected Kath to be the Cobbler, because of her use of the word cobbled. (and while I ensured Meneltarmacil would live another day – likely – people consider me wolvish for noticing).

So what it seems your saying is that Meneltarmacil is not a wolf...But you fail to mention anything about yourself...Maybe you picked up the hint as well, because you knew what to look for.(Ahem..Wolf).... Excuse me.

Uhm yeah. I explained.

Originally Posted by Eluchil

I would have to agree with you. Cailin is quite dodgy. Perhaps too dodgy. Could it have been a slip of the tongue? He let something about his fiendish plots go accidentally and inadvertantly? Curious...

Her fiendish plots definitely do not involve getting lynched. This post is nothing more than simply agreeing and nodding, while making someone suspicious of you (for I mentioned Eluchil’s name a couple of times) appear in a questionable light.

Cailin and Meneltarmacil are getting kind of cozy in their big furry coats. Maybe one is the Alpha Female and the other is the Alpha Male.....hmmmm

And another time my name is mentioned without any reasoning at all.

Originally Posted by Alcarillo

Well. Hmmmm. If I were a wolf, I would go after somebody who accused me a tiny bit, somebody who could become a rival later in the game, but not somebody to whom I am a main suspect. Does this fit Cailin/Kath?

It does not. Obviously, I was Kath her main ‘suspect’, cause I was the only one she mentioned multiple times and questioned directly. I would not have killed Kath – because of the previously mentioned ‘cobbled’ and because Kath is very capable of gathering suspicion by herself, with her non-voting and non-commiting statements. ;-)

- I react to the votes against me in a ‘touchy’ manner. (sorry *sniff*, I get a little emotional).

By all means, lynch me. I might just deserve it. I hope you’ll find it helpful, though I have a hard time picking out the wolves and I know of my own innocence.

As an alternative to suicide, I’d be in favour of lynching (though this might yet change before the Day is done):

Nilpaurion Felagund, just to be on the safe side.
Eluchil, because I suspect him the most right now.
Malkatoj, because of her disturbing silence.

Though I think my death might be most telling today. But you would lose me. Which would not be fun.

[Farael]

Lhuna has already cast a vote for Eluchil and that is bad news for me, as voting for him again would be seen as bandwagoning. While I don't like his game so far, his actions remind me of a story I heard once about a village of werewolves infiltrated by brave heroes... the plan went sour, but what I remember is that this big, bad wolf called Farael acted somewhat like Eluchil (hint: I'm talking about the last WW game, my first ever... for those of you happy to jump and accuse me of werewolfism)

If Lhuna who is fairly suspicious had not voted for Eluchil I might have stayed true to my first vote but I neither want to join Lhuna nor fuel a bandwagon.

Cailin has been pretty jumpy and she is not a rookie in this kind of dealings and this last quote unsettles me a little

Originally Posted by Cailin

Though I think my death might be most telling today. But you would lose me. Which would not be fun.

Isn't our goal rid our formerly lovely town from the influence of those terrible werewolves? if Cailin is suspecting someone she should say it out loud so that should we lynch her, we would know exactly what she meant.

And then there is the issue of Garin. Sticks his neck too far out and then slowly reels it back in with almost empty posts (at least meaning-wise) I'd like to propose a scenario.

Suppose Garin is a werewolf, along with at least one more experienced f(r)iend. During the day, werewolves are impeded to talk to each other secretly, so the experienced fiend could not tell Garin to calm down a little. After the day was over, and probably while enjoying Kath's hope-it-was-poisoned flesh, the experienced werewolf told Garin to take it easy else he got killed.

And now we get what we see, Garin still posting a fair bit on a slow day but saying VERY little in his posts. If anything, accusing Valier who is a bit of a safe bet, although she sounds suspicious I'm not yet willing to go after her head.

I have my eyes set on Garin now, and I shall vote him unless something unexpected happens, but I am in no hurry for the time being.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Farael

Lhuna has already cast a vote for Eluchil and that is bad news for me, as voting for him again would be seen as bandwagoning.

Not nessesarily if you make a good case and don't just copy what other have said it is quite allright. If we were not allowed to vote for the same as other people this would be wierd indeed.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Not nessesarily if you make a good case and don't just copy what other have said it is quite allright. If we were not allowed to vote for the same as other people this would be wierd indeed.

Oh, I agree, but I don't think I can make a good enough case, and my vote for Eluchil would be just a continuation of my suspicions from the former day. I'm not as worried of being suspected as I worry about starting a bandwagon against an innocent. I am not certain of Eluchil guilt (or anyone's for that matter) and so I will hold off on my vote for a little bit

[Amanaduial the archer]

Originally Posted by Garin

I could continue but I think I have pneumonia.

Uh huh, yeah, way to get the sympathy vote!

Originally Posted by Valier

: Oh and aren't black cats sort of shifty?

Good lord, and I get accused of over analysis? Hmmph!

Originally Posted by Gurthang

Now this makes me suspicious, much more so than Alcarillo's comment that she was talking about. I think you read way to much into that little phrase. It would almost stand to reason that she had nailed your tactics and so you wanted to shoot her thoughts down.

Confusion: Gurthang, Alcarillo didn't actually mention my name. And if I wanted to shoot her down quite so much, surely a far quicker way of distraction would be to attack her more directly...by voting for her. But I am certainly not as suspicious of Alcarillo - as of some others.

I find my concern turning to Cailin actually at the moment - her last post was entirely defensive, rather than really properly asking questions into other people's guilt or innocence and helping towards the Wolf Effort. However, as she rightfully points out, it was Kath who really instigated such suspicion - which makes me consider that she is probably not in fact guilty, at least, not if the cobbler knew the identities of the werewolves (did she?) - it doesn't really work that the Cobbler would try to kill those who she was supposed to be helping. Who. Whom. Ah, whom cares...

I therefore stand, for now, with my vote of Lhunardwen.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I have been giving this a bit of thought and there are currently two people that somehow stands out to me. This is purely based on me thinking that they are playing strange. Those of whom I speak is Garinand Meneltarmacil

Garin: Is very defensive and talks about that he is sticking his neck out by being vokal. He sais he saved his vote incase he needed to save him self, but was he ever in any danger? Sure some had raised suspition and might have votet Garin in the end, but a mather of fact was that he only had one vote and Nilp 5! There really was nothing indicating that it would be him that was to be lynched. Then he cast's the vote that seals Gil's destiny. He claims that he is taking a chance by beeing vokal, but is it not true that people often suspect those who is more silent and the wolfes would benefit more from killing a silent person who does not suspect anyone and therefor does not leave a trail.

Meneltarmacil: Is acting odd and it makes me wonder, is he a wolf hiding in the spot light? I am sure that he is bold enough to do so. If we add the fact that he was the one who oficaly made it Gil bandwaggon, then he does not look so good in my eyes.

Well that was my thoughts, I will go and look at who you suspect and comment on them next and then proberbly a vote.