The Hobbit Survivor

[Anguirel]

Oh, I'm still lunging at Dori. I'm just following it through with a slash at Dr Dolittle..

[Kuruharan]

*gasp* The Capitalist Exploiter hates beloved cultural figures too?!

Is there no bottom to his malice?

[The Saucepan Man]

I agree that there are still too many Dwarves, but I'd rather get rid of dead Dwarves than live ones.

++THRAIN

Even when alive, he was a gibbering wreck. And now that he's dead, he's starting to smell.

A caveat - I will be prepared to vote for Thranduil today if I am assured of support in my campaign against Thrain tomorrow.

[Anguirel]

Thrain is possibly the coolest Dwarf ever to have drawn breath. Fine, he had a tragic and unsuccessful career. Since when has that stopped people from being heroes?

Born into privilege, Thrain had to tough it out, penniless, in the wild. Unlike his father, he didn't throw his life away in a blood-feud, however. He kept adventuring on, passing down lore, keeping the artefacts of his line safe for as long as he could. Though he lost his Ring eventually, he saved the map for Gandalf and his son-which means he must have at least partially withstood Sauron's torture.

He ended in madness. So? So did Jeanne de Montfort, Henry VI and Nietzche. Thrain was a true Dwarven Hero, perhaps unequalled until the career of Gimli.

[The Saucepan Man]

That's a matter of opinion, Anguirel. But even if you are right, it does not contradict anyhting that I said in my case against him ...

Bascially, he's dead and therefore starting to smell. That's good enough for me to want to kick him off.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I'd rather get rid of dead Dwarves than live ones.

Oooh! Et tu, SpM?

Anguirel, we seem to share same views of Beorn and that makes me glad. I had somehow missed your earlier case against him. You spoke wisely back then and you've proved that you are ready to vote for him even without pacts.

Therefore: Kuruharan, you got yourself a deal.

--BEORN

++ELVENKING

Let tomorrow be the day when we go against Beorn together.

[Anguirel]

But...but...but...but...base treachery...splutter...

That's the last time I ever suck up to spiders!

Back to Thrain-clear proof of his superiority is that he is the one recorded Dwarf King with the familial touch necessary to bring up a daughter to adulthood...

Without Thrain, there would be no Dis.

Dis should be a contestant, incidentally. What sexism!

[Lalaith]

I'll certainly leave Thrain alone, in honour of his gallant son Thorin whose departure I still mourn.
I agree there are too many dwarves, but why pick on the two bravest and best, Dori and Balin? Why not cull the porker, whose selfish dietary needs are becoming a major liability on the island? Yes, there were the dreams, so whimsically diverting at first, but they have long since become beyond tedious.
And do we need *both* Fili and Kili?
And, I repeat again, WHY are there still two trolls on this island?

[Anguirel]

I'm a pragmatist. Dori already had quite a few votes. And, I sincerely hope, people will have enough taste to garner him some more. He's hardly a catastrophic loss. He's nice and friendly and bluff and grumbles a bit and carries things. Like a slightly arthritic but essentially decent mule.

Surely the loss of such a character is a worthy sacrifice in the cause of stopping Dwarf hegemony?

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

But...but...but...but...base treachery...splutter...

That's the last time I ever suck up to spiders!

Awww, shame. The sucking up was so nice! But you see, my dear Anguirel, that if you are going to vote for Beorn anyway, I really don't have to "buy" your vote. Of course, if you have now lost all your faith in spiders, it might affect your voting, but I hope that's not the case. Well, maybe I try to appease you later, okay?