Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVI: No man is an Island - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 01-23-2006, 04:13 PM

Of course, we do not know who Naria's hunt-ee was this past Night, but I find it suspicious that after all our talk of lynching either Aman or Malka and hunting the other, that Malka is still alive.

Though perhaps it was too obvious, and Malka is a frame-up. I'll have to review carefully.

Cailín · 01-23-2006, 04:41 PM

Poor Rune. Such a kind little fella.

But yay, we finally managed to lynch a wolf yesterDay - and what a traitor Aman turned out to be! Now I have a few theories why Naria was not killed last night, seeing that she is the official last know innocent.

1) Malkatoj is the final wolf and decided to drag it on for another Day.
2) Malkatoj is not the final wolf. We lynch her toDay and the wolf hopes Naria takes down an innocent with her toNight, ergo, a wolvish victory. It is likely Naria would choose me as a secondary victim, so that would be rather convenient.

However, if Malkatoj is indeed innocent and the wolf had killed Naria and indirectly Malkatoj toNight, we'd still have only one day left to find the wolf and chances would be considerable I'd be the one lynched if Malka is proven innocent.

Either way, if we don't catch a wolf toDay, it is over. Unless Naria would choose not to hunt anyone. And therefore I'd ask Naria to seriously consider that if we don't manage to find a wolf toDay and finds herself clueless. If we lynch an innocent, would we leave it up to Naria to make the right decision or would we rather argue over it another Day? I'm not sure, whatever the majority prefers, I suppose.

I still think option 1 provided above is the most likely - this might be just an attempt to sow discord for another Day. However, I shall decide on my vote tomorrow when I am a little more clearheaded. Sleep well, dolls.

Farael · 01-23-2006, 07:17 PM

You know Cailin, I was remembering last night's voting and well.... you are the only one who did NOT vote for Amanduial and is still alive.

Don't you think it's quite convenient? you convince us to vote Malka today and Naria not to hunt anyone tonight... that way you ensure your survival for another night to eat us all, eh

There have been suspicions against you but the biggest clue against you is that Azaelia voted for Amanduial yesterday, so did I and Naria... I'd say that gets us of the hook as a wolf would know that with so few of us left a vote could make the whole difference.

Malkaltoj did not vote last night but I'm willing to give her another night's grace. I think you are too dangerous Cailin, the only experienced unknown. And so far two of the wolves were inexperienced... I think that Sauron would have been smarter than to choose three inexperienced wolves. I think tonight you shall be our lynching pray and we will let Naria decide what to do.

And before you start spreading misinformation about me, try to see who lead the votes against Garin and Amanduial. I am innocent. You are not.

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 01-23-2006, 07:58 PM

Interesting points, Farael...

I'm going to have to vote within the next hour and a half or so, because I have work.

It's a shame not to have more to go on, because these early votes of mine invariably go wrong.

I'm at a point where a lot of people are looking suspicious, so I must review.

malkatoj · 01-23-2006, 08:25 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry. I disappeared to another state to visit my boyfriend and didn't have access to a computer. I thought I would. Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry.

On the other hand, WOOHOO a wolf is gone! One left, and I'm definitely agreeing with Farael after reading the posts over. Cailin's recent voting record looks extremely suspicious. Her most recent post about also seems very confusing and self-defeating--she seems to be assuming that the remaining wolf will go for Naria if not lynched today. How would a non-wolf know wolfish plans?

I would like to see what else comes up during the DAY but I unfortunately have to go to sleep since I'm at school more than usual tomorrow. (I hate senior year.) So, since I won't be back on to my knowledge and even if I am, better safe than sorry:

++CAILIN

(sorrysorrysorrysorrysorry)

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 01-23-2006, 09:14 PM

If you had not just posted, Malka, you would have gotten my vote this evening.

As it is, Farael's and Malka's reasoning has drawn me to the conclusion that perhaps our wolf is trickier than we thought...Cailin has always been reasonable, perhaps too reasonable.

Though the suggestion of Naria not choosing if she doesn't have a sure target and our lynch-ee today is innocent does make sense if I think about it...because we're a village of 5, 4 of us innocent. If our lynch-victim is innocent, we're down to 4, and 3 innocents. And then, if Naria is eaten toNight, and she picks an innocent victim, that's another two down. One wolf and one innocent. We lose. Which may be why Naria is still alive...because the wolf was hiding behind a hope that she would become confused and take an innocent out tonight.

However, I do not know about Farael, either...he also is very reasonable, or at least reasonable-seeming. But I've harbored some degree of suspicion against him for a long time. His idea of letting someone suspicious (Malka) slide for another night could be letting a wolf get away. And he did bring up an argument against Cailin first. (And to really beat the dead horse, he was the one to call for Lhuna to reveal herself.)

And Malka's previous lack of participation is also suspicious, though that alone should not condemn her, and she was absent yesterDay.

Naria is the only one I know for sure is innocent.

And my schedule demands that I have to vote now or not at all. eek.

My mind says Cailin. My gut says Farael. And Malka lurks around the edge of it all (I, too, have a sense of melodrama).

But my time is up. I've convinced myself. I am going to vote for

++Farael

But my gut instincts have been very, very wrong before. So wrong that I don't know why I bother to listen to them anymore. I just know that Cailin and Malka both feel wrong. I would urge all those who have not voted yet to please withold and use all time available to vote, to gather all facts that you can because this could just be our last day to catch a wolf. I'm not saying vote for Farael. I'm saying look around, post a lot, weigh your options carefully.

If this is putting pressure on anyone, I apologize.

If Cailin is innocent (stranger things have certainly happened) I would recommend looking at Farael because he sounded off with a lot of force against her, and was the first to do so.

Well. I hope we all survive this coming Night. And I hope to "see" this village alive and kicking when I return from work on Wednesday night in time to see the events of the rest of today, and to see if we survived.

Farael · 01-23-2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Azaelia of Willowbottom

However, I do not know about Farael, either...he also is very reasonable, or at least reasonable-seeming. But I've harbored some degree of suspicion against him for a long time. His idea of letting someone suspicious (Malka) slide for another night could be letting a wolf get away.

you kidding my friend? if I wasn't almost convinced of Cailin's guilt I'd be voting for you!!! you say you don't want to let a suspect get away yet... you vote for me rather than the suspect?

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And he did bring up an argument against Cailin first. (And to really beat the dead horse, he was the one to call for Lhuna to reveal herself.)

You know as well as I do that it was the right call to make at the time. There is no way Lhuna would have survived this far and she would have gathered no new information. At least we knew of a few innocents for a while.

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If Cailin is innocent (stranger things have certainly happened) I would recommend looking at Farael because he sounded off with a lot of force against her, and was the first to do so.

Please, review yesterday's posting to see who sounded off with a lot of force against Amanduial the Wolf!!

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Well. I hope we all survive this coming Night. And I hope to "see" this village alive and kicking when I return from work on Wednesday night in time to see the events of the rest of today, and to see if we survived.

Mark my words... not only you will find the village alive and kicking, but it will be wolf free.

We know that Naria is innocent and unless Malka has lied to us by saying she did not have Internet until just a while ago today (which would not qualify as "fair game") it would have meant that she could have not chosen the wolve's kill for the night. That leaves Azaelia, Cailin and Me. If my voting record does not speak for itself (Fangarin and Amanduial the wolf) then I say you should kill me now and rid yourselves of the doubt. But you will be voting towards your own destruction.

That leaves Azaelia and Cailin. I'm willing to spare Azaelia for the time being as Cailin has been much more suspicious than her. I will cast an early vote because I can't be certain I will be around tomorrow, but I trully believe

++Cailin
Is the wolf.

01-23-2006, 04:13 PM	#1
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	Of course, we do not know who Naria's hunt-ee was this past Night, but I find it suspicious that after all our talk of lynching either Aman or Malka and hunting the other, that Malka is still alive. Though perhaps it was too obvious, and Malka is a frame-up. I'll have to review carefully. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

01-23-2006, 07:17 PM	#3
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	You know Cailin, I was remembering last night's voting and well.... you are the only one who did NOT vote for Amanduial and is still alive. Don't you think it's quite convenient? you convince us to vote Malka today and Naria not to hunt anyone tonight... that way you ensure your survival for another night to eat us all, eh There have been suspicions against you but the biggest clue against you is that Azaelia voted for Amanduial yesterday, so did I and Naria... I'd say that gets us of the hook as a wolf would know that with so few of us left a vote could make the whole difference. Malkaltoj did not vote last night but I'm willing to give her another night's grace. I think you are too dangerous Cailin, the only experienced unknown. And so far two of the wolves were inexperienced... I think that Sauron would have been smarter than to choose three inexperienced wolves. I think tonight you shall be our lynching pray and we will let Naria decide what to do. And before you start spreading misinformation about me, try to see who lead the votes against Garin and Amanduial. I am innocent. You are not. __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

01-23-2006, 07:58 PM	#4
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	Interesting points, Farael... I'm going to have to vote within the next hour and a half or so, because I have work. It's a shame not to have more to go on, because these early votes of mine invariably go wrong. I'm at a point where a lot of people are looking suspicious, so I must review. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

01-23-2006, 08:25 PM	#5
malkatoj Wight Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A hovel in Florin Posts: 173	Vote AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry. I disappeared to another state to visit my boyfriend and didn't have access to a computer. I thought I would. Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry. On the other hand, WOOHOO a wolf is gone! One left, and I'm definitely agreeing with Farael after reading the posts over. Cailin's recent voting record looks extremely suspicious. Her most recent post about also seems very confusing and self-defeating--she seems to be assuming that the remaining wolf will go for Naria if not lynched today. How would a non-wolf know wolfish plans? I would like to see what else comes up during the DAY but I unfortunately have to go to sleep since I'm at school more than usual tomorrow. (I hate senior year.) So, since I won't be back on to my knowledge and even if I am, better safe than sorry: ++CAILIN (sorrysorrysorrysorrysorry) __________________ Now, mostly dead is slightly alive. Now, all dead...well, with all dead, there's usually only one thing that you can do--Go through his clothes and look for loose change.

01-23-2006, 09:14 PM	#6
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	If you had not just posted, Malka, you would have gotten my vote this evening. As it is, Farael's and Malka's reasoning has drawn me to the conclusion that perhaps our wolf is trickier than we thought...Cailin has always been reasonable, perhaps too reasonable. Though the suggestion of Naria not choosing if she doesn't have a sure target and our lynch-ee today is innocent does make sense if I think about it...because we're a village of 5, 4 of us innocent. If our lynch-victim is innocent, we're down to 4, and 3 innocents. And then, if Naria is eaten toNight, and she picks an innocent victim, that's another two down. One wolf and one innocent. We lose. Which may be why Naria is still alive...because the wolf was hiding behind a hope that she would become confused and take an innocent out tonight. However, I do not know about Farael, either...he also is very reasonable, or at least reasonable-seeming. But I've harbored some degree of suspicion against him for a long time. His idea of letting someone suspicious (Malka) slide for another night could be letting a wolf get away. And he did bring up an argument against Cailin first. (And to really beat the dead horse, he was the one to call for Lhuna to reveal herself.) And Malka's previous lack of participation is also suspicious, though that alone should not condemn her, and she was absent yesterDay. Naria is the only one I know for sure is innocent. And my schedule demands that I have to vote now or not at all. eek. My mind says Cailin. My gut says Farael. And Malka lurks around the edge of it all (I, too, have a sense of melodrama). But my time is up. I've convinced myself. I am going to vote for ++Farael But my gut instincts have been very, very wrong before. So wrong that I don't know why I bother to listen to them anymore. I just know that Cailin and Malka both feel wrong. I would urge all those who have not voted yet to please withold and use all time available to vote, to gather all facts that you can because this could just be our last day to catch a wolf. I'm not saying vote for Farael. I'm saying look around, post a lot, weigh your options carefully. If this is putting pressure on anyone, I apologize. If Cailin is innocent (stranger things have certainly happened) I would recommend looking at Farael because he sounded off with a lot of force against her, and was the first to do so. Well. I hope we all survive this coming Night. And I hope to "see" this village alive and kicking when I return from work on Wednesday night in time to see the events of the rest of today, and to see if we survived. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

01-23-2006, 04:41 PM	#2
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Poor Rune. Such a kind little fella. But yay, we finally managed to lynch a wolf yesterDay - and what a traitor Aman turned out to be! Now I have a few theories why Naria was not killed last night, seeing that she is the official last know innocent. 1) Malkatoj is the final wolf and decided to drag it on for another Day. 2) Malkatoj is not the final wolf. We lynch her toDay and the wolf hopes Naria takes down an innocent with her toNight, ergo, a wolvish victory. It is likely Naria would choose me as a secondary victim, so that would be rather convenient. However, if Malkatoj is indeed innocent and the wolf had killed Naria and indirectly Malkatoj toNight, we'd still have only one day left to find the wolf and chances would be considerable I'd be the one lynched if Malka is proven innocent. Either way, if we don't catch a wolf toDay, it is over. Unless Naria would choose not to hunt anyone. And therefore I'd ask Naria to seriously consider that if we don't manage to find a wolf toDay and finds herself clueless. If we lynch an innocent, would we leave it up to Naria to make the right decision or would we rather argue over it another Day? I'm not sure, whatever the majority prefers, I suppose. I still think option 1 provided above is the most likely - this might be just an attempt to sow discord for another Day. However, I shall decide on my vote tomorrow when I am a little more clearheaded. Sleep well, dolls.

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