WWJ III - Nan Qualinmerë: Death Wish Valley

[tar-ancalime]

tar - Shelob is trying not to take thigs to heart anymore and I think will retract her own vote.

Yes, and I think she was probably typing her post to that effect at the same time I typed my perhaps overly-tart commentary.

However, it may be too late.

I'm still deciding my own vote for the day.

So far Garin, Gandalf, and Wayne are bothering me the most. Gandalf and Wayne seem to be playing some kind of meta-game with each other in which they log on only to exchange votes. This in itself is troubling--what if they're BOTH wolves? We'd never gather enough evidence on either of them!

Garin, on the other hand, is behaving quite strangely to my mind. He votes VERY early for Anguirel, saying it's "random" (yes, Garin, I noted the irony). But why would he do such a thing on Day 2, when we've got so much more to go on, and when he knows he'll be around for the rest of the day to see what happens? Is he just that enamored of the idea of retracting?

Then, when the Shelob discussion really got underway he changed his vote. He was the first to vote for her, true, but it wasn't hard to see which way the wind was blowing--if he thinks it's a done deal then what better way to protect himself than by getting in early and looking like a leader? But then, all I've really got is a nebulous bad feeling that I'm trying to substantiate. And we all know what happens when you go looking for a certain result, right? So I think perhaps it's better I lay off Garin...for now. If he gives me the same feeling tomorrow I may not be so inclined.

On the other hand, there are some people who definitely won't be getting my vote. I think Anguirel and Fea are likely innocents--Anguirel because he not only voted for Thinlomien, he cast the deciding vote that took her down with eonwe, and Fea for the same reason as Shelob--for now. True, it's entirely possible she and Thinlomien worked out the whole Eomer thing as a setup to make Fea look innocent, but if so they had to know that voting last for Eomer meant Thinlomien was not long for the world--sacrificing a wolf on the very first day seems foolhardy and risky, even for Fea, so with that roundabout logic she gets on to my list of likely innocents.

Whom to vote for? Whom to vote for? Right now I'm leaning Wayne but for no good reason.

[Roa_Aoife]

Just to update, the votes currently stand thus:

Anguirel - Roa
Gandalf - Wayne
Garin - Shelob
Kath - Shelob
Mith - Fea
Shelob - Shelob
Wayne - Gandalf
Valier- Shelob
Roa- Shelob

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I like your logic, tar-a. I'm not sure that even I'd bother with that super-uber-mega-bluff. Too many possible ways for it to go wrong.

In any case, sorry it took me so long to get back online. It was a loooooooooooooooooooooooong day. Though this is a bit pointless of a vote, since it's so late in the proceedings.

++SHELOB

Because I didn't stop having the funny feeling (don't you love the empirical evidence?) and I've been too busy to get a decent idea of my gut instincts for anybody else. Except that I'll be very upset if either Kath or Ang are lupine. They don't strike me as the type.

[tar-ancalime]

++Garin

It's coals to Newcastle at this point, I'm afraid--I was actually considering abstaining, because absent an eleventh-hour mass retraction the outcome seems certain for today. But rather than put the spotlight on ME for not voting, I decided it would be better to shine a little light on someone who's not sitting right with me.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

suspects Shelob simply because she lived past day 1.

This is long standing joke between the two of us because of the other werewolf games. I didn't mean anything serious by it.

Tolkien would be disappointed, he always clearly defined his good and evil.

I'm pretty sure he'd be disappointed by this whole thing then, since for "good and evil" to be "clearly defined" the wolves would have to either tell us they're evil or be wearing the previously mentioned signes...somehow I don't forsee this happing, this side of reality anyway.

I meant this too as a joke. Sorry that sarcasm doesn't come across so well in print.

Oi vey, today's been trying. I was ready to vote Shelob earlier today, but her insistance of her innocence has lead me to believe that she is just that; innocent. So, this brings me back to square one. Shall I vote for Garin, who I'm simply suspicious of because of his unreasonable (IMHO) suspicion of me? Or shall I vote for Gandalf or Wayne because their silence and unhelpfulness is unnerving? I also really don't want to cause a double lynching. So, let me go review the posts and I'll be back with a vote in a few minutes.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

Whoops, didn't realise that Roa had posted a handy dandy little list right there. But now I can't have the excuse of another two or three minutes...

I think I'll go Wayne. I'm sorry, but your lack of evidence in your very few posts irritates me. Plus, you're a huge unknown and it's much better for the village to have an understanding of something about each player.

So with a heavy heart, I vote:

++WAYNETHEGOBLIN

[Garin]

So we have Shelob: Garin, Fea, Shelob. Roa, Valier, Kath
Fea: Mith
Garin: Tar
Gandalf: Wayne
Roa: Ang
Wayne: Gandalf, Crombie
Am I right?

[Garin]

Anguirel, my first target. You talked me into Shelob and voted for someone who has no chance of dying. Explain, please.
I think Kath and Shelob seem most entangled, and if she pleads her case I shall retract but...

[Valesse]

Well... it looks like nothing is going to sway me again toDAY.

Maybe its frustration. Maybe its a feeling. Maybe its just bad goat's milk. Something just doesn't seem right about Garin. It feels strange that he is really the only person truely demanding answers and is twice has passionate as the rest of the villagers when accused... with exception of Shelob, that is.

However I said I wouldn't vote for her and I stick by that... not that it makes much of a differance with that slew of people voting her head off. Literally. My vote is not for influence (obviously... because most everyone has voted already) but because its my vote. I tried to pawn it off for some new hidden lines since Thin broke my other one, but apparently they are non-refundable.

Thats life for you.

++Garin

By the way... keep the hidden line thing a secret, won't you? Bad publicity.

[Roa_Aoife]

It may be a bit late to say this, but I think one should vote for whom reason has lead one to suspect, not one that everyone else suspects. That's how the wolf band-wagoning strategy works, or so I understand.

If you suspect Shelob, by all means, vote for her. If you do not, then don't vote for her simple because everyone else is. I almost want to retract my vote, because so many poeple are on this train. I do, however, trust my initial instinct regarding her, and I will follow through on that.

My vote will stand, and I will likely not be on for the remainder of the day. I apologize for my lack of activity today, but I must return to prepare any salves that may be of use in coming days. ((Read: I have homework.))

Good night, my neighbors, and I bid you take care.

[Roa_Aoife]

And just to be helpful

The vote stands:

Anguirel - Roa 1
Gandalf - Wayne 1
Garin - Shelob 1
Kath - Shelob 2
Mith - Fea 1
Shelob - Shelob 3
Wayne - Gandalf 1
Valier- Shelob 4
Roa- Shelob 5
Fea- Shelob 6
Tar- Garin 1
Crombie- Wayne 2