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Old 01-25-2006, 12:38 PM   #1
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Oddly enough I had Garin pinned for the seer before he cast his vote for Shelob. Obviously, I'm still wary of Garin today... more so now than ever, and unless he is able to weasel his way out of this I don't even have to tell anyone that my vote will not change from the previous.

But lets disect the situation before conclusions are drawn.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:44 PM   #2
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Well Apart from Tar's hints which aren't to be sneezed at .. I have reread yesterday and he just looks plain shifty.. He is very keen to know what other people think and associating with others right, left and centre which is a bit wolfish...... to my mind.

Kath I am somewhat reassured ...that is plausible.... if I am not totally reassured it is becasue I know you are good at this lark!!
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Old 01-25-2006, 01:15 PM   #3
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Just popping back in as I'm starting to fear my slots for discussion this evening will be perilously few.

If you ask me, tar-ancalime dreamed first of Eomer of the Rohirrim, then of Shelob, and finally of Garin, though this last dream was intercepted by Fea's unlucky spear. I say this in the light of re-reading-I did not have her down as a possible Seer in the least. I thought she was talking sense, but then, she usually does...didn't spot the difference...

I say: firstly Eomer because of tar's frustrated/terrified exclamation-"That's one naked Seer tonight!" Also I believe he was at the top of her meta-dream list. If I were the Seer. Indeed.

Then of Shelob-the only one that came into play, though alas the voters did not stop it because she couched it only in terms of reason. I thought her defence of Shelob sound and rational-sounding and was unwilling to vote for her, though eager to draw her out a bit. Alas, she was having a hard day and her defensive outbursts incensed others as much as they reassured me. In retrospect I should have made more of a concerted effort to defend Shelob; it was cowardly of me to sit on the fence by quietly voting Roa_Aoife.

And then of Garin-I think her vote and more tellingly her "spotlight" comment make that fairly clear. What's so frustrating is that the wolves were as much in the dark as I, clearly, and had it not been for Fea's hypersuspicion we would know if Garin were man or beast (if tar-ancalime had revealed herself). Better that Fea had taken down Kath or I than our Seer.

Like many others I await Garin's defence with trepidation.
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Old 01-25-2006, 01:50 PM   #4
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I imagine Roa_Aoife dreamt of me last night and found me innocent. We will never know, I wouldn't kill Fea because by photos she appears to be one of the hottest things on the Barrows. I still feel manipulated by Ang but he did vote against Thin so I imagine him innocent if not diabolical.
I can tell you that my death will lead to a victory for the lycans.
So, this explains my reasoning.
As for Shelob, I was the first voter, and thought her innocent near the end but found nor heard no reason to retract from others. Others are silent, too silent . She was harshly defensive and I never respect the suicidal.
I am intrigued by the votes against Wayne and still wish to see an explanation besides him being quiet and unreasonable and useless to the cause.
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Old 01-25-2006, 01:54 PM   #5
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Oh dear. I do believe stress has driven this fellow quite mad.

Or is it the madness within?
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Old 01-25-2006, 02:02 PM   #6
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Garin, I'm not dead, and I haven't dreamt of anyone.

Maybe tar dreamt of you before yesterday, and found you guilty. Indeed, we can't know for certain. You changed your mind so quickly from Ang to Shelob.

How, might I ask, is your death a victory for the Werewolves, beyond one of them not being killed? You've done a poor job finding them out, I must say. I hardly think you're a threat to them. Now, granted, I have done poorly myself, but at least I don't claim to be more than I am.
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It would be crazy if dear Kath was a wolf but I wish those who voted for her would explain more.
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Old 01-25-2006, 02:00 PM   #8
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Oh dear. I do believe stress has driven this fellow quite mad.
Ang if you are a wolf you deserve to win. I have yet to decide my vote until I hear more from others. Including you....
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Garin, just to make this clear-

Feanor of the Peredhil is dead, mauled by the two wolves. She was however our Hunter and took with her

tar-ancalime, who turned out to be our Seer. Roa _Aoife is alive and well.
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Sorry, Roa I have little time and my parchments are in disarray. I would be more exact if our dear mods hadn't posted hours late.
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Old 01-25-2006, 02:10 PM   #11
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My apologies Anguirel, but such slips have proved to be useful before.

And Garin, please don't blame the mods for your slip ups! The lateness of their posting actually means the list is closer to you now.
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Oh indeed? And here was me thinking it was tar who was the Seer!

With that little 'slip' I think perhaps we should be looking at Garin and Roa as potential wolves.
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Accuse Garin by all means Kath-for I intend to myself, I think increasingly-but don't do it on such specious grounds. It's clear that was a simple mistake, whether due to carelessness, madness, blindness or some kind of error, but I highly doubt, in this instance, wolvery. What's wolvish about making a total fool of yourself?
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Roa: Garin, it seems fairly obvious that you'll be lynched by the end of this day, but your defense is disjointed and messy. You seem to not be paying very close attention, and were I in your position, I would on this thread like white on rice. Just to check, is something distracting you today?
Yes I am ill and at work and they recognize the Barrow Downs Page at work so my time for review is limited. I hope you do lynch me so you can find the wolf among my detractors.
However, I will never vote for myself.
I have retracted the Kath vote and voted for Aber. No one has given me a good enough reason for Wayne and Gandalf.
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Dear Kath, and any other potential accusers, I ask you to look at post #161 for my defence.

As for putting me in league with Garin, I am going to vote for our carpenter unless a much better defence is given. You're on thin ice, Garin. I suggest trying a little harder.
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I still suspect Ang, but his vote for a lycan makes me think him as innocent. Kill me , if you must, but I'll never behave as that idiot Shelob who voted for herself while being innocent. As I said...Disservice.... to the village.
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