The Hobbit Survivor

[Tuor in Gondolin]

+ + Kili
Which will also answer the question of
can one twin survive without the other.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Ah-ah-ah. This is utter nonsense. Your activities have had a disproportionately negative impact on one particular race. That would qualify under the definition for many of the professors under whom I have studied.

You are unfortunately mistaken, my dear fellow. I have nothing against Dwarves per se. I am just against a disproportionate number of Dwarves remaining in the contest. Ergo, I am not prejudiced against Dwarves, but simply seeking to maintain some kind of balance to the contest. As one who is concerned about ratings, you will no doubt appreciate that the majority of viewers will turn off in their droves if the final comprises solely Dwarves. Continued high ratings depend on appealing to the entire viewer demographic, not just those who happen to be Dwarves.

In any event, assuming a Dwarf goes today, I will be content to leave the remaining three alone - for now at least.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

I'm in, Saucey, though I bet you targetted Fili not Kili just to irritate me...

EDIT: I meant "Kili not Fili". That rather proves our point...

Oh, sorry Ang. I genuinely thought that I had chosen your least preferred "-ili". Not that it matters, surely. They are, as I have said, pretty much interchangeable.

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Ang, I will hold you to your pledge vis a vis Tom, tomorrow, and may you drown under a deluge of neg reps if you play me false.

Actually, Lal, the pledge was mine. And I will hold to it, provided that Kili goes today.

[Kuruharan]

Tsk! In this game dwarves comprised the "at risk" (to use the technical term) population. You (among others) have exploited this to the uttermost.

Exploitation of at risk population=discrimination.

I'm afraid the conclusion is rather inescapable, no matter how you try to spin it. You may as well stop trying, you're not fooling anyone.

(And before you attempt to bring it up, majority populations have been "at risk" many times in the past so you don't have a leg to stand on in pleading "but there were so many of them.")

As far as ratings go, the ratings will be just fine so long as Belladonna Took is in the final. I believe she is the one I have been promoting for some time. This suggests (I realize you and a few others may have missed it) that I have not been shooting for an all dwarf final, as I have been repeatedly accused. I personally don't have any intention of voting against any dwarves, but I don't have to. I have unwitting pawns to do all that dirty work for me while I have fun stirring the pot. They have been most cooperative, as you can tell. Belladonna is still here and another dwarf is gone. As Darth Sidious would say, "Everything is going as I have foreseen."

Of course, I said this already. However, why pay attention to what I say when you can pretend that I have said what you wanted to see and then proceed from there.

Isn't it about time for an expulsion?

[Lalaith]

Whoops, sorry Saucie. Careless reading. It's usually Ang who offers the deals, you see.
However the sentiments remain the same.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Tsk! In this game dwarves comprised the "at risk" (to use the technical term) population.

Far from being at risk, the Dwarves have, throughout the show, held the advantage by virtue of their numbers. It is the fair-minded among us who have voted for them, with a view to evening things up. I discriminate not against Dwarves, but against those who have firmly had the upper hand throughout, in the interests of balance.

But I wouldn't expect a balanced view in this game from a Dwarf ...

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

I believe she is the one I have been promoting for some time. This suggests (I realize you and a few others may have missed it) that I have not been shooting for an all dwarf final, as I have been repeatedly accused.

Come now. Your attempt at reverse psychology is fooling no one.

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Isn't it about time for an expulsion?

The Island seems to be located in some mysterious region where the length of the day varies from one day to the next. If nothing else, it at least heightens the unpredictability.

[Kuruharan]

Far from being at risk, the Dwarves have, throughout the show, held the advantage by virtue of their numbers.

That is what landed them in the "at risk" category. It made it certain that people would persecute them. But I believe I already answered this. You are evidently not really reading my posts and are just assuming what you want to see is there.

Come now. Your attempt at reverse psychology is fooling no one.

Good. One more layer in Belladonna Took's invincible armor. People think I'm trying to trick them, so they won't vote for her. Her cause looks stronger and stronger. (Apparently, I'm so cunning that I can bamboozle people without even trying... )

However, you've just given me an amusing idea. No matter what happens now, I'll be able to gloat insufferably. If Belladonna gets voted off (which is not going to happen) I'll be able to say, "HA, you witless fools you fell for my evil plan!!! BAWH-HAWH-HAWH-HAWH!!!" When Belladonna wins I'll be able to say, "HA!! Victory is mine...I mean hers!!! I predicted this hundreds of posts ago!!!"

I'd like to thank you for showing me that I'm in a win-win situation. It is so nice to see other people looking out for your interests.

Telegram for Everybody Else: When the gloating begins you can blame the Saucepan Man.

[Anguirel]

Kuru, you are assuming that Belladonna, if not evicted, is a dead cert for victory on the last day of positive votes for the winner.

For reasons of my own, I beg to differ. I have no wish to evict little Lucrezia Longbottom but my support will be elsewhere on the final Day.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

That is what landed them in the "at risk" category.

All contestants are at risk of being voted off. That's kind of the point of the show.

Are they at greater risk of being voted off than other contestants? As a group, yes. As individual Dwarves, no (again by virtue of their numbers). They are in an individual competition, so this can hardly form any basis for complaint. It is up to each individual Dwarf to persuade the viewers that they deserve to stay. Some have managed to achieve that so far.

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

You are evidently not really reading my posts and are just assuming what you want to see is there.

I could say the same. Listen very carefully, for I shall say this only once (more). I have not been voting against Dwarves because I have any irrational dislike of Dwarvenkind. I have been voting against them because, throughout the show, they have significantly outnumbered the other categories of contestant. My aim, therefore, has been to even things up and thereby produced a more balanced show (for the benefit of the viewing public's enjoyment and, thus, the show's ratings).

Given that there are solid rational and reasonable grounds to support my voting pattern vis a vis the Dwarves, it can hardly be described as discriminatory or prejudicial, in the sense that those words are normally used (which implies an element of irrational dislike or hatred, based on age, race, sex etc).

You, on the other hand, have been persistently voting against Tom for the last few days simply because he is a Troll. And you accuse me of prejudice ....??!!!

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

No matter what happens now, I'll be able to gloat insufferably.

And you expect us to believe that you wouldn't have found a way to do so in any event?

It is quite clear (whatever you may say after the event) that you desperately want a Dwarf to win. Otherwise, why the unjustified, slanderous and assault against those of us who have been voting for Dwarves? Methinks the Dwarf doth protest too much.

But I take comfort in your evident discomfort at the fast reducing Dwarfish population.