Speaking of a Silly Poll

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Another write-in vote for Finrod Felagund. Not
only a great sounding name but a killer of
werewolves without using weapons (a sporting
chap). (Imagine what he would have done to
The Hobbit's Chief Warg (Mwaaa!).

[Mithalwen]

Turgon at least had the wisdom to accept Tuor and from that came salvation.

I adore Finrod but my vote if he is excluded must be Fingolfin.

[drigel]

Turgon at least had the wisdom to accept Tuor and from that came salvation.

At the very least

[Lalaith]

Remember the Fen of Serech.....
grrrrr.

[Kuruharan]

I think that hiding away his city was a natural reaction to the threat his people faced, but in doing so he effectively condemned said people to a life (and an endless life, at that) in a prison. Gondolin, the Gated Community of Arda.

That is a matter of perspective dependant on the perspective of those supposedly imprisoned. What is freedom?

Following this logic, it was actually a good thing that Gondolin fell, since all those "prisoners" who could escape alive would be free

Apparently it is being a bunch of refugees barely clinging to a rather unpleasant coastline. And escaping alive was a real trick wasn't it?

Remember the Fen of Serech

Huor and Hurin wanted that.

[drigel]

It's interesting to note, not that he wasnt picked as a favorite, but how many anti-Turgons there are out there. Cool to see different takes on the same reading. But yikes - dont hate the player, hate the game.

The puzzlement I have is how people like Fingon, but hate Turgon..?? To me, Turgon's (like the rest of the Exiles) story is a study of the Doom, but with a refreshingly different twist than his sires and counterparts. Its an alternate strategy, but a strategy that one could possibly say was "meant", or absolutely fated to be none other than the way it was. The aid and relationship of Ulmo, Osse, and eagles throughout the years tells me he took a path through the Doom that was the most congruent (for lack of better words) with the higher powers than any of the other Cursed.

That is a matter of perspective dependant on the perspective of those supposedly imprisoned.

kuzzactly. There are those who like to roam, then there are those who dont.

OK I'll stop, because I either sound like an apologist for T, or I need to start a Turgon appreciation society.

edit: my favorite quote about T.:

Now the thought of Morgoth dwelt ever upon Turgon; for Turgon had escaped him, of all his foes that one whom he most desired to take or to destroy. And that thought troubled him, and marred his victory, for Turgon of the mighty house of Fingolfin was now by right King of all the Noldor; and Morgoth feared and hated the house of Fingolfin, because they had the friendship of Ulmo his foe, and because of the wounds that Fingolfin gave him with his sword. And most of all his kin Morgoth feared Turgon; for of old in Valinor his eye had lighted upon him, and whenever he drew near a shadow had fallen on his spirit, foreboding that in some time that yet lay hidden, from Turgon ruin should come to him.

a pain in his foot and a weight on his mind... #1 and #2

[Formendacil]

Good heavens!! Finrod? Maedhros?

The poll is about High Kings of the Noldor, not just plain old kings. Why do you go advocating Thingol or Dior? After all, if one can disregard the High part of the poll why not disregard the Noldor part? Or, for that matter, why limit it to Kings at all? Why not just go with favourite Middle-Earthian character? Or favourite fictional character? Or favourite person real or feigned?

Seriously, the way people around here are unable to vote within the confines of any poll presented irks me... If Fordim had wanted his silly poll to be about Noldorin kings in general, he would have made it about that, but he didn't.

Excuse the irateness... I'm very irked.

P.S. As the poll will show, I've voted Gil-Galad.

[Raynor]

Turgon seems to have the attitude of the 'conqueror', and once settled in his new land, he becomes insular.

Then again, the valar should be quite sympathetic of his decision, seeing how far they went in isolating their own island from the threat of Melkor. [In Myths Transformed, Tolkien does qualify this "rival possessiveness" as an effect of the shadow on the valar.]