The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-25-2006, 01:25 PM   #1
Tuor in Gondolin
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,651
Tuor in Gondolin has been trapped in the Barrow!
Send a message via Yahoo to Tuor in Gondolin
But Melkor had several means to gain "subjects", either
by subverting them ("Luke, you don't know the power
of the dark side" ) ,
such as Sauron and balrogs,
or warping rational creatures (orcs from either elves, men,
or ents, probably elves). And what about dragons. I believe some
have speculated they were corrupted maia.
__________________
The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin.
Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'
Tuor in Gondolin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2006, 08:38 AM   #2
narfforc
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
narfforc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Muddy-earth
Posts: 1,297
narfforc has been trapped in the Barrow!
Page 50 1st Edition HB of The Silmarillion may help, and I quote: Yet this is held true by the wise of Eressea, that all those of the Quendi who came into the hands of Melkor, ere Utumno was broken, were put in prison, and by slow arts of cruelty were corrupted and enslaved; and thus did Melkor breed the hideous race of Orcs in envy and mockery of the Elves, of whom they were afterwards the bitterest of foes. For Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of The Children of Iluvatar; and naught that had life of its own, nor semblance of life, could ever Melkor make since his rebellion in the Ainulindale before the Beginning: so say the wise.


P.S Edheldae, go to the back of The Silmarillion and read the last chapter first, there you will meet familiar characters and also new ones. You are not on your own to get stuck at the Beginning. Keep trying, it is a marvelous book, and will answer lots of your question, it does get easier on the mind.
__________________
[B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

Last edited by narfforc; 02-26-2006 at 08:46 AM.
narfforc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:16 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.