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Farael · 02-27-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I don't think you should be that worried, Farael. That was one character's interpretation in a disstressing situation - and remember: most of it was his self-thought: so nothing that would be known by anyone other than himself!!!

Of course, but I'm writing for the proverbial reader, even if only Pio reads our story besides ourselves... I don't want my reader to think the way Sythric thought. The Reader has insight into Sythric's thoughts and given that a written story lacks some of the aspects of reality, the way other characters percieve the reality of the story can often be taken by the reader for it to be the 'true' reality of the story. If the four remaining characters happen to think the same way than Sythric did, the reader might be VERY persuaded to think that way as well... and it just doesn't go with the way I want Osmod to be.

Edit: Cross-posted with Pio... I forgot to say, I'm sorry if it sounded as if I was reprimending Nogrod for his post... he sent a draft to me and I asked him to change just one thing (which he did) and go ahead with it... I won't repeat what I said above about The Reader, but again, feel free to let your characters react as they will, yet if you are unsure about it do me a favour and mellow Sythric's comments down a little. If not, I'll have to play with the cards I'm dealed.. that's part of the fun of this kind of RPG's! Unlike others that rely on dice and weird abilities to beat a certain oponent, here we know that the story will end the way we want it to end (whichever that may be) and the 'fun' is writing along with others.

Undómë · 02-27-2006, 02:49 PM

Whoa! Well, there's a problem here for me - I'm not writing for any readers other than ourselves. I'm just enjoying developing 'Meghan' and interacting with each of your characters as I think SHE might do - and without regard to how anyone else might interpret her thoughts, words, or actions.

I'm just playing a game here . . .

If the reader likes it, likes my character fine -- but perhaps they might see her as a complete twit. And I don't really care. From my point of view, I've written well, she's interacted with others as I feel she ought to, and that's all that matters to me in an RPG

Farael · 02-27-2006, 02:53 PM

Well, I'm not writing a novel, but I do mean to do something that will be enjoyable for whoever happens to stumble upon it! And I don't worry about the reader not liking Osmod, I worry about the reading getting the wrong idea about him! Basically, I don't want to RP a whiny, moody guy... yet I want my character to be consistant as well, for the reader's sake. Yet enough of that, at least from my part... if anyone wants to talk about it, feel free to start sending out PM's!! Let's get back to writing a game.

Edit: I'd also like to remind/inform those I have not told before, that I'm basically here to learn how to write good stories in English. I was a bit of a writer back in Argentina but now I find that my Spanish is not as good as it used to be and my English is getting better... given that odds are I will stay in North America, I rather learn to write in English than to remember how to do it in Spanish. That's perhaps why I am more concerned about overall quality of the RPG (at least my part on it, the rest of you can do as you please).

Nogrod · 02-27-2006, 03:08 PM

Fellow Bregowarians!

As I'm going to sleep soon, and won't be with you before 6-7 PM (GMT), I'll just suggest a few things.

Farael: Write Osmod's post to address either all (all would hear) or then just Sythric and Raedwald (they are near each other)

Undómë: Write Raedwald's answer to Sythric / Osmod / both.

Eonwe SW: Write about Eostre's feelings about this all...

Maeggaladiel: Feel free to come more involved: you write good posts, keeping up the tension...

I'll be able to getr Sythrics comments in less than 24-hours, and if everything is almost settled by then, we should really be getting forwards. I quess Arry is getting frustrated with us...

Anyhow: I think we have just started the "real game"! And it's fun!

I agree with Undómë about this basic predicament of this being a game and fun in the first place, not so much a serious novel (with my english I would never dream of writing one in english!)

Maeggaladiel · 02-27-2006, 04:27 PM

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Maeggaladiel: Feel free to come more involved: you write good posts, keeping up the tension...

Thank you! I'd love to get more involved, and I hope to do so. My main problem seems to be that I'm rarely online at the same time as the rest of Bregoware. I'm alone and I post once, and then by the time I'm online the following day, either too few people have posted or everyone has posted three times in my absence and are wondering whether Fionn has died in the night!

But perhaps now things will even out a bit more. I mean, look! I'm online at the same time as THREE Bregowarians! I'm not a lone ghost floating across the plains today.

Farael · 02-27-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Maeggaladiel

Thank you! I'd love to get more involved, and I hope to do so. My main problem seems to be that I'm rarely online at the same time as the rest of Bregoware. I'm alone and I post once, and then by the time I'm online the following day, either too few people have posted or everyone has posted three times in my absence and are wondering whether Fionn has died in the night!

But perhaps now things will even out a bit more. I mean, look! I'm online at the same time as THREE Bregowarians! I'm not a lone ghost floating across the plains today.

I second Nogrod... great post! with regards to the problem of being here at different times, maybe we should start plotting ahead a little... just general ideas, but so that we all know more or less what the other wants to do.

Maeggaladiel · 02-28-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Farael

I second Nogrod... great post! with regards to the problem of being here at different times, maybe we should start plotting ahead a little... just general ideas, but so that we all know more or less what the other wants to do.

Sounds like a fine idea to me. Does anyone have anything in particular in mind? I'm open to just about anything.

Valier · 02-27-2006, 05:42 PM

Ok I am sorry if I came off a little rude. I just wanted to let you wulfhamers know that yes Vaenosa has problems, but I have been trying to drop small hints that she actually is beginning to care for the others. The boar was supposed to be a sign of her "affection". She lived alone with her mother for a long time and does not quite know how to interact with others well. I will try to make her more friendly as the days go by, but remember she will always be brash. Her comments towards the men are more humorous then hatred now. I thought I made that clear, but in the future I will try to make it more clear.

I understand it is hard for your characters to "get" Vaenosa by her actions and words, but the reactions I was hoping for would be more of concern for her and not straight out hatred.ie: Hoping that Vaenosa would die.
Please read her words for what they are and not what you think she is saying.
For a really good example of what I am talking about, take the men cooking. Vaenosa and I would assume Incana have both been raised cooking. The men's gungho attitude towards cooking and the like would seems strange to Vaenosa. Which in turn would affect her opinion of them. I understand this but it is a little strange that the men would get the woman to hunt while the men cook.

I added the Boar scene just for the purpose of seeming more friendly, and since I was the only one not injured I thought it plausible that she would try to find more food. I really don't know how to hunt! I have just been trying to fill in time. Vaenosa would rather cook and tend to the horses and such then risk her neck hunting. But someone had to do it. Remember I am a girl in RL I don't really know too much about the hunting and fighting. I thought that since everyone was injured this would be the logical thing to do.

Ok well after that rant I will try to vocalize her feelings and intentions more but, not so much that it changes her as a whole.Please feel free men to hunt and not just cook.

THE END

Valier · 02-27-2006, 10:09 PM

I've pm'd with Naria. She's come up with the idea of her knowing of me from both of our mother's doing business together. I'm allowing her to tell about Vaenosa's past because it makes more sense for her to do it. It would be out of character for Vaenosa to out right tell about it. I hope this opens up the mystery of Vaenosa for all of you, so we can slowly become friends.

02-27-2006, 02:49 PM	#2
Undómë Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 400	Whoa! Well, there's a problem here for me - I'm not writing for any readers other than ourselves. I'm just enjoying developing 'Meghan' and interacting with each of your characters as I think SHE might do - and without regard to how anyone else might interpret her thoughts, words, or actions. I'm just playing a game here . . . If the reader likes it, likes my character fine -- but perhaps they might see her as a complete twit. And I don't really care. From my point of view, I've written well, she's interacted with others as I feel she ought to, and that's all that matters to me in an RPG __________________ Young she was and yet not so. The braids of her dark hair were touched by no frost, her white arms and clear face were flawless and smooth, and the light of stars was in her bright eyes, grey as a cloudless night . . .

02-27-2006, 02:53 PM	#3
Farael Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In hospitals, call rooms and (rarely) my apartment. Posts: 1,538	Well, I'm not writing a novel, but I do mean to do something that will be enjoyable for whoever happens to stumble upon it! And I don't worry about the reader not liking Osmod, I worry about the reading getting the wrong idea about him! Basically, I don't want to RP a whiny, moody guy... yet I want my character to be consistant as well, for the reader's sake. Yet enough of that, at least from my part... if anyone wants to talk about it, feel free to start sending out PM's!! Let's get back to writing a game. Edit: I'd also like to remind/inform those I have not told before, that I'm basically here to learn how to write good stories in English. I was a bit of a writer back in Argentina but now I find that my Spanish is not as good as it used to be and my English is getting better... given that odds are I will stay in North America, I rather learn to write in English than to remember how to do it in Spanish. That's perhaps why I am more concerned about overall quality of the RPG (at least my part on it, the rest of you can do as you please). __________________ I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.

02-27-2006, 03:08 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Fellow Bregowarians! As I'm going to sleep soon, and won't be with you before 6-7 PM (GMT), I'll just suggest a few things. Farael: Write Osmod's post to address either all (all would hear) or then just Sythric and Raedwald (they are near each other) Undómë: Write Raedwald's answer to Sythric / Osmod / both. Eonwe SW: Write about Eostre's feelings about this all... Maeggaladiel: Feel free to come more involved: you write good posts, keeping up the tension... I'll be able to getr Sythrics comments in less than 24-hours, and if everything is almost settled by then, we should really be getting forwards. I quess Arry is getting frustrated with us... Anyhow: I think we have just started the "real game"! And it's fun! I agree with Undómë about this basic predicament of this being a game and fun in the first place, not so much a serious novel (with my english I would never dream of writing one in english!) __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

02-27-2006, 05:42 PM	#8
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	A novel written by Valier Ok I am sorry if I came off a little rude. I just wanted to let you wulfhamers know that yes Vaenosa has problems, but I have been trying to drop small hints that she actually is beginning to care for the others. The boar was supposed to be a sign of her "affection". She lived alone with her mother for a long time and does not quite know how to interact with others well. I will try to make her more friendly as the days go by, but remember she will always be brash. Her comments towards the men are more humorous then hatred now. I thought I made that clear, but in the future I will try to make it more clear. I understand it is hard for your characters to "get" Vaenosa by her actions and words, but the reactions I was hoping for would be more of concern for her and not straight out hatred.ie: Hoping that Vaenosa would die. Please read her words for what they are and not what you think she is saying. For a really good example of what I am talking about, take the men cooking. Vaenosa and I would assume Incana have both been raised cooking. The men's gungho attitude towards cooking and the like would seems strange to Vaenosa. Which in turn would affect her opinion of them. I understand this but it is a little strange that the men would get the woman to hunt while the men cook. I added the Boar scene just for the purpose of seeming more friendly, and since I was the only one not injured I thought it plausible that she would try to find more food. I really don't know how to hunt! I have just been trying to fill in time. Vaenosa would rather cook and tend to the horses and such then risk her neck hunting. But someone had to do it. Remember I am a girl in RL I don't really know too much about the hunting and fighting. I thought that since everyone was injured this would be the logical thing to do. Ok well after that rant I will try to vocalize her feelings and intentions more but, not so much that it changes her as a whole.Please feel free men to hunt and not just cook. THE END

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02-27-2006, 10:09 PM	#9
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	I've pm'd with Naria. She's come up with the idea of her knowing of me from both of our mother's doing business together. I'm allowing her to tell about Vaenosa's past because it makes more sense for her to do it. It would be out of character for Vaenosa to out right tell about it. I hope this opens up the mystery of Vaenosa for all of you, so we can slowly become friends.