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Old 03-01-2006, 09:05 AM   #1
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Nogrod, I have a question. You say:. Maybe you'd care to explain what is non-nonsense-speaking on the first day. Because the first day usually is just nonsense and wild guesses.
Touché! You seem to have an eye on rhetoric. I could teach you some post-structuralism to enhance your argument destroying abilities furthermore...

Maybe I should answer you this way. What I mean by nonsense-posting, is posting like:
"Hi everyone! Poor Sleepy!!!!! So sad you died! We should do something."
And that being the only contribution of the first day (or anyday, for that matter).

or like:
"Rock-baby-Rock, duubaduuba-diiba-daaba. Ranger wasn't a changer, WOW!!!! Real Danger! Check you out guys! If you are not gone with Sleepy... (wink-wink)"

Etc, etc...

So no-nonsense talk would be something, making a bit more out of it...

But really! Nice interpretation of Sleepy's text! Surely no-nonsense! Although it might be erring surely.

Without better ideas, I could stick to it... Sleepy really told us, there would be hints, and we deconstructionists love far-fetched ones!

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Old 03-01-2006, 09:09 AM   #2
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It seems we have one more roleplayer in the village, and it's our Touché-man Nogrod.

I'm glad to see someone online.

And I got your (Nogrod's) point on nonsense. The matter's solved. Yet, I wonder, is the "I suggest that we press on the silent ones" posts very much less nonsense. And the choir agreeing to that. I'm not blaming the strategy, I'm just wondering why nearly all agree with it.
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:13 AM   #3
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Yet, I wonder, is the "I suggest that we press on the silent ones" posts very much less nonsense. And the choir agreeing to that. I'm not blaming the strategy, I'm just wondering why nearly all agree with it.
Maybe a little... (there is no smily for self-irony...)

But as you mentioned it. In the beginning most people seemed to be against it - or at least they were reserved with it. And I'm not so confident with my argumentation skills, that I would readily believe, that I have just convinced them all. So it could be worthwhile looking, whether there are any drastic changing of sides, or sudden silences after perceived "mood-changes" or certain critical posts etc.

Well they surely are shots in the air too, but still better than nothing?
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:16 AM   #4
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Well they surely are shots in the air too, but still better than nothing?
Sure. As I said they are better. But I was wondering how much better.
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:20 AM   #5
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:33 AM   #6
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OKay, I've read through everyone's posts, and then I went back an analyzed the Opening. I think I've found something interesting.

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She lay there on the grass staring upwards at the night sky. Today had in no way been a good day, in fact it seemed life had begun a steady journey downwards. She sighed, things weren't in her hands anymore or so it seemed. His steps were quick and noiseless, she never saw him coming but once he stood there in front of her she just looked up in wonder, he smiled. Nobody had smiled at her for the last few months, it seemed money did buy friends. "It shall be over soon." He said, his voice was soothing and Ka believed him, it would be over soon.
What wasn't in the hands of our dear psychologist? Perhaps the plan to murder us?

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Two months later Sleepy had again vanished, this time his friends decided to take immediate action. Intuition drove them into the abandoned town and sure enough they found Sleepy in the center of the town. He had been impaled on the cupid's arrow that had once provided water for the fountain, it now spurted blood, Sleepy's. Upon further examination it was discovered that his throat had been slashed and his head was just barely connected to his body, when it tilted back a bit a fountain of blood would gush out of his corpse.
Cupid's Arrow? I don't know how many of you know this, but Sleepy and THE Ka are a couple in RL. Was it a lover's crime of passion that killed our beloved friend?
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:34 AM   #7
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Interesting theory, Roa. It is as good as mine, maybe.
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:28 AM   #8
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may be found then fettered, and done to death
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And just to stress my urge on frank exhange of ideas, I would suggest, that if there is even one among us today, that just hides in the shadows and does not show him/herself to be helpful in getting us out of this misery, we should point our suspicions there.
Then lmp is reserved towards this theory of himself's and Nogrod's:
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A reasonable point of suspicion no doubt, but let us not with a single thread weave the pattern of our decision this day. Other just as useful evidences may supply themselves before long.
Anguirel disagrees:
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I sometimes prefer silence to artificial noise.
Then Enca agrees and disagrees all in one post:
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Some degree of pressure on quiet players is a good thing -- a nudge like "I'd like to hear more from so-and-so" is likely to do the trick. And it's better if everyone talks, because then at least there is something substantial to back up your opinions of people.
However... while there is often one wolf who is one of "the quiet ones," we shouldn't base guilt solely on how much one talks. There are sometimes other reasons for being quiet -- RL conflicts, or as the game gets more heated, it takes a long time to actually read and process everyone else's posts!
Holby kind of agrees:
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It seems that the most vocal tend to gain highest suspicion and then are lynched, innocent or not, leaving the village with least talkative and least likely to have left patterns. There is a town message board (Tol-in-Gauroth Jr thread) for extenuating circumstances. Of course, votes should be spread out but it would be nice for the quieter ones to feel the heat sooner than later.
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Really now, all this talk about 'taking a closer look' at the quiet ones....and this early in the first DAY...pish-aww!
So actually both I and Nogrod were wrong. There was no accepting choir, but it didn't start with suspicions either. Now I'm trying to find a pattern hid in this discussion...

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Old 03-01-2006, 09:32 AM   #9
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Reading my previous post, I observe that Anguirel actually is going along the ongoing trend. A bit wolvish, if we assume that wolves don't want to get into the spotlight.

Enca isn't really saying anything, but I'm not blaming her for that. I do it all the time! Being unable to make sound opinions doesn't always lead to wolvishness.
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I've been reading Sleepy's characterization of us all. I found the following to be of some, at least half-reasonable interest:

Roa: being called stupid & laughed at, she would show them who was better!

Naria: seems to be a bit mad (not caring of anything real, just laughing alone)

Holbytlass: manages to fake herself with ease

EDIT: X-posting heavily
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:41 AM   #11
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Also, I'd like to point out that THE Ka's opening has nothing to do with her occupation, unlike all the others. And that's exactly the type of subtlety Sleepy would use.

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But really! Nice interpretation of Sleepy's text! Surely no-nonsense! Although it might be erring surely.

Without better ideas, I could stick to it... Sleepy really told us, there would be hints, and we deconstructionists love far-fetched ones!
How flattering.
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x3? With all the three posts? Or does that mean only the latest one?
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