WWJ V: The Broken Souls

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Yet, I wonder, is the "I suggest that we press on the silent ones" posts very much less nonsense. And the choir agreeing to that. I'm not blaming the strategy, I'm just wondering why nearly all agree with it.

Maybe a little... (there is no smily for self-irony...)

But as you mentioned it. In the beginning most people seemed to be against it - or at least they were reserved with it. And I'm not so confident with my argumentation skills, that I would readily believe, that I have just convinced them all. So it could be worthwhile looking, whether there are any drastic changing of sides, or sudden silences after perceived "mood-changes" or certain critical posts etc.

Well they surely are shots in the air too, but still better than nothing?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Well they surely are shots in the air too, but still better than nothing?

Sure. As I said they are better. But I was wondering how much better.

[Eonwe]

Take what you can get, I guess...

[Roa_Aoife]

OKay, I've read through everyone's posts, and then I went back an analyzed the Opening. I think I've found something interesting.

THE Ka

She lay there on the grass staring upwards at the night sky. Today had in no way been a good day, in fact it seemed life had begun a steady journey downwards. She sighed, things weren't in her hands anymore or so it seemed. His steps were quick and noiseless, she never saw him coming but once he stood there in front of her she just looked up in wonder, he smiled. Nobody had smiled at her for the last few months, it seemed money did buy friends. "It shall be over soon." He said, his voice was soothing and Ka believed him, it would be over soon.

What wasn't in the hands of our dear psychologist? Perhaps the plan to murder us?

And then there was this:

Two months later Sleepy had again vanished, this time his friends decided to take immediate action. Intuition drove them into the abandoned town and sure enough they found Sleepy in the center of the town. He had been impaled on the cupid's arrow that had once provided water for the fountain, it now spurted blood, Sleepy's. Upon further examination it was discovered that his throat had been slashed and his head was just barely connected to his body, when it tilted back a bit a fountain of blood would gush out of his corpse.

Cupid's Arrow? I don't know how many of you know this, but Sleepy and THE Ka are a couple in RL. Was it a lover's crime of passion that killed our beloved friend?

[Thinlómien]

Interesting theory, Roa. It is as good as mine, maybe.

[Thinlómien]

Or actually better, I'd say. But it doesn't close out the possibility of you two being both wolves, though that's very unprobable, since you're directing the spotlight to her...

[Thinlómien]

First - littlemanpoet

Speak, each one of us, for in words the Were
may be found then fettered, and done to death
if luck be our guide. Let us begin.

Second - Nogrod

And just to stress my urge on frank exhange of ideas, I would suggest, that if there is even one among us today, that just hides in the shadows and does not show him/herself to be helpful in getting us out of this misery, we should point our suspicions there.

Then lmp is reserved towards this theory of himself's and Nogrod's:

A reasonable point of suspicion no doubt, but let us not with a single thread weave the pattern of our decision this day. Other just as useful evidences may supply themselves before long.

Anguirel disagrees:

I sometimes prefer silence to artificial noise.

Then Enca agrees and disagrees all in one post:

Some degree of pressure on quiet players is a good thing -- a nudge like "I'd like to hear more from so-and-so" is likely to do the trick. And it's better if everyone talks, because then at least there is something substantial to back up your opinions of people.
However... while there is often one wolf who is one of "the quiet ones," we shouldn't base guilt solely on how much one talks. There are sometimes other reasons for being quiet -- RL conflicts, or as the game gets more heated, it takes a long time to actually read and process everyone else's posts!

Holby kind of agrees:

It seems that the most vocal tend to gain highest suspicion and then are lynched, innocent or not, leaving the village with least talkative and least likely to have left patterns. There is a town message board (Tol-in-Gauroth Jr thread) for extenuating circumstances. Of course, votes should be spread out but it would be nice for the quieter ones to feel the heat sooner than later.

Naria disagrees

Really now, all this talk about 'taking a closer look' at the quiet ones....and this early in the first DAY...pish-aww!

So actually both I and Nogrod were wrong. There was no accepting choir, but it didn't start with suspicions either. Now I'm trying to find a pattern hid in this discussion...

EDIT: x-posted with Eonwe

[Thinlómien]

Reading my previous post, I observe that Anguirel actually is going along the ongoing trend. A bit wolvish, if we assume that wolves don't want to get into the spotlight.

Enca isn't really saying anything, but I'm not blaming her for that. I do it all the time! Being unable to make sound opinions doesn't always lead to wolvishness.

[Nogrod]

I've been reading Sleepy's characterization of us all. I found the following to be of some, at least half-reasonable interest:

Roa: being called stupid & laughed at, she would show them who was better!

Naria: seems to be a bit mad (not caring of anything real, just laughing alone)

Holbytlass: manages to fake herself with ease

EDIT: X-posting heavily

[Roa_Aoife]

Also, I'd like to point out that THE Ka's opening has nothing to do with her occupation, unlike all the others. And that's exactly the type of subtlety Sleepy would use.

EDIT:Won't be back for a few hours. Mid-terms and all.

[Thinlómien]

(All quotes in my previous post were from Eonwe's post #57)

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Also, I'd like to point out that THE Ka's opening has nothing to do with her occupation, unlike all the others. And that's exactly the type of subtlety Sleepy would use.

Quite interesting this is. But have you got any basis on your argument why would Sleepy use just that kind of subtlety?

[littlemanpoet]

I'm very short of time and must vote, because I get done "rehearsing" after voting closes.

Observations:

Thinlomiel:
1. has voiced suspicion of Anguirel based on him following an ongoing trend. I haven't time to verify that assertion. this in post #63
2. appears helpful in post #62 with all those quotes seemingly trying to build up some kind of case the nature of which frankly escapes me (prob. my fault for lack of time)
3. made no defense (that I could find) in answer to my suspicions.

Eonwe:
1. his vote for me in #57, especially giving no reason other than randomness, naturally attracts my suspicious attention.
2. lots of "gifted" talk in #57; also a point of suspicion.

Naria: her "wait and see" attitude as described in #32 seemed a bit opportunistic and therefore perhaps wolfish to me; I am vindicated in this thinking by Holbytlass in her vote.

The Ka:
1. Votes for Thinlomiel after others have voiced some suspicion in that direction, thereby following a trend.
2. She protests way too much in defense of every single possible contingency of which she finds herself able to be accused; that seems rather guilty behavior to me.
3. I notice that others have found other areas of suspicion that I have not yet had time to research.

Witch Queen has not yet posted as far as I can tell.

Valesse seems to protest just a wee bit too much in #29.

The grounds listed above do not amount to much, granted. Nevertheless, it seems that there is more to lay at the feet of The KA than any other.

++ The KA

[Thinlómien]

2. appears helpful in post #62 with all those quotes seemingly trying to build up some kind of case the nature of which frankly escapes me (prob. my fault for lack of time)

Probably the fault is that there really is no point in the post. First I tried to prove Nogrod he was wrong when he said that the "lynch the quiet ones"-theory didn't get support at the beginning, but I actually ended up with pointing out that and that I was wrong when I said a choir of voices agreed with the suggestion.

3. made no defense (that I could find) in answer to my suspicions.

You were accusing me because of my absence, and to that I can only say:

It seems that you shouldn't sleep,
or neither should a schoolday you busy keep
- otherwise you'll be you'll be lynched by your own kind
a bit unfair I do that find.

And that's what I said in post #43. You just didn't notice it. If you need me to explain the words "sleep" and "schoolday" for you, just ask.