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Energetic Essence
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Ooooo!! If it's who brought the stuff back to Barad-dur that you're asking about, that would be Shagrat.
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Shagrat is one of them. It's actually a tricky question,
on several levels. I considered counting the Watchers, but wasn't sure how to classify them, so they're not counted here. But there are either one, two, or more then two to add. The more then two (maybes) are the orcs that shot arrows killing two of Shagrat's lads. But since they aren't mentioned again, and Sam and Frodo got out without being shot, I suppose you could reasonably assume they died after unloosing the arrows? I've also come across a reference to "two" survivors, and if you consider the question there is another individual who presumably fits the criteria. Quote:
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The other would be the Witch-King, as he was away.
But if you admit that, then whatever of his own armies he took with him also survived. I always got the impression the main contingent based there had all left, and Minas Morgul was staffed by a smaller garrison.
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well if the Witch-King is accepted then wouldn't Gothmog?
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A good point about the Witch-king of Angmar,
but I'm thinking of an orc. (Hint: when last seen he wasn't very happy with his fellow orcs). Here's the indication of two surviving orcs (from Wikipedia) Quote:
thinking of it's a bit of a trick question. P.P.S. I don't think this reference to two survivors would refer to Gorbag and Shagrat, since when they were alive Snaga, the two orcs sent by Shagrat to Sauron, and the orcs firing arrows at them were also still alive and it's hard to imagine a scenario where just two of the above could be considered definitively alive at the same time after fighting for the mthril-shirt. (Sorry for any confusion here). P.P.P.S. If there is dispute over the existence/name of this other orc then Glirdan could be considered the (answrerer ?) of the question.
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