Survivor: The Second Age - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the phantom · 03-09-2006, 12:01 PM

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Wait! Lalaith's vote does not count.

You shouldn't have said anything about it, waited until voting was over, and then told Formy.

So, do you think you can round up any votes, Ang?

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 12:03 PM

I don't sink that low.

And I can do "any", but "enough" is proving difficult. Where is the League that was monopolising, to paraphrase Theoden?

Mithalwen · 03-09-2006, 12:08 PM

but nevertheless in possession of passion and taste.

++ Khamul the Easterling

He is somewhat insubstantial - can't tell if he is Bactrian or a dromedary. But it might explain this nazgul's strange relationship to water.

And Celeborn is the silverhaired, prettyboy trophy husband of the Age.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 12:09 PM

There. Even if I am defeated, it's something that Mith is cut down at my side.

Allow me to fly a banner of blue and silver, just waiting for it to be trampled upon...

JennyHallu · 03-09-2006, 12:11 PM

I always felt sorry for Celeborn. He was a great man in his own right, but so eclipsed by his wife, who felt free to run rough-shod over him whenever she pleased. Vote Khamul and support helpless, henpecked, husbands!

EDIT: Like mine

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-09-2006, 12:16 PM

Celeborn is awesome. He stormed Mirkwood and drove out the baddies, he's supposedly the wisest guy around in the 3rd Age... I like him and don't want to see him go.

Khamul, on the other hand, is merely a cronie. Sure, he's got his own name, but he's a minion. No will of his own. No point in keeping him around.

++Khamul

lord of dor-lomin · 03-09-2006, 12:17 PM

To counter The Saucepan Man's obvious anti-elf attitude, I vote for
+ + Khamul

Mithalwen · 03-09-2006, 12:18 PM

I don't think Celeborn is henpecked .... I do find it slightly distressing in this day and age, when modern women are benefitting form the struggle and sacrifices made by our elder sisters, that in a work, which is so often criticised for a lack of strong, female characters, a man who is prepared to let his wife shine is assumed to be an inferior, emasculated specimen. He must have many great qualities not mentioned in the book.

Anguirel · 03-09-2006, 12:25 PM

Actually, I think he has several that are mentioned.

1. His emancipated attitude to women, noted above. His acceptance of Galadriel's talents, and his chiding of Boromir for ignoring old wives' tales...

2. Evident military ability seen in his three defences of Lorien and subsequent conquest of Dol Guldur.

3. Ability and popularity as a ruler. He stayed on to rule a contented Rivendell without his wife, and apparently lasted a good long time (fanfic authors even like to say he left in the Seventh Age...)

Folwren · 03-09-2006, 12:38 PM

I don't know who I am making angry with this vote, or who I help (except the one who wrote me), but I'm casting this vote. . . and hoping I won't find it necessary to cast another.

++Khamul

- - Folwrey

Lhunardawen · 03-10-2006, 01:43 AM

Thank you, everyone, for helping me exact my revenge. Especially you Formendacil for having such a mood as you had when the Day ended.

I'm sorry dancing spawn, but I am left far too devastated by Ereinion's death to even bother about Celeborn - who I now see deserves to last longer in this game.

My next target? ++OROPHIR

Come now...look at what he has helped bring forth into the world! Captain Obvious himself!

Besides...I didn't even know who he was before I asked Nilp.

Lalaith · 03-10-2006, 03:28 AM

Names I will not take from you, of elf-hater or thrall.

I am neither. Furthermore, I respect fine battle-craft in my enemies as well as my allies, and can only admire the mustering that occured in the dying hours of the campaign last night.

I remain, however, committed to balance in this game, and feel that in the spirit of fairness we should focus on one of the most numerous tribes today - the Elendili or the Sindar. To prove I am no mindless elf-culler, I choose the Elendili. Here, the obvious candidate must be Amandil.
He doesn't want to be on Middle Earth anyway. He proved it not just in his actions, sailing off to the west, but in his very name: it means "devoted to Aman".

So vote off Amandil. It's what he would have wanted. Those years being 'wormtongue' to Ar-Pharazon have taken their toll, as well....

++AMANDIL

03-09-2006, 12:03 PM	#2
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I don't sink that low. And I can do "any", but "enough" is proving difficult. Where is the League that was monopolising, to paraphrase Theoden? __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 12:08 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Clearly, I am a moral vacuum but nevertheless in possession of passion and taste. ++ Khamul the Easterling He is somewhat insubstantial - can't tell if he is Bactrian or a dromedary. But it might explain this nazgul's strange relationship to water. And Celeborn is the silverhaired, prettyboy trophy husband of the Age. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-09-2006, 12:09 PM	#4
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	There. Even if I am defeated, it's something that Mith is cut down at my side. Allow me to fly a banner of blue and silver, just waiting for it to be trampled upon... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 12:11 PM	#5
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	I always felt sorry for Celeborn. He was a great man in his own right, but so eclipsed by his wife, who felt free to run rough-shod over him whenever she pleased. Vote Khamul and support helpless, henpecked, husbands! EDIT: Like mine __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

03-09-2006, 12:17 PM	#7
lord of dor-lomin Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: dor-lomin, of course Posts: 167	To counter The Saucepan Man's obvious anti-elf attitude, I vote for + + Khamul __________________ I used to be indecisive. Now, I'm not so sure.

03-09-2006, 12:16 PM	#6
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Celeborn is awesome. He stormed Mirkwood and drove out the baddies, he's supposedly the wisest guy around in the 3rd Age... I like him and don't want to see him go. Khamul, on the other hand, is merely a cronie. Sure, he's got his own name, but he's a minion. No will of his own. No point in keeping him around. ++Khamul

03-09-2006, 12:18 PM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I don't think Celeborn is henpecked .... I do find it slightly distressing in this day and age, when modern women are benefitting form the struggle and sacrifices made by our elder sisters, that in a work, which is so often criticised for a lack of strong, female characters, a man who is prepared to let his wife shine is assumed to be an inferior, emasculated specimen. He must have many great qualities not mentioned in the book. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

03-09-2006, 12:25 PM	#9
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Actually, I think he has several that are mentioned. 1. His emancipated attitude to women, noted above. His acceptance of Galadriel's talents, and his chiding of Boromir for ignoring old wives' tales... 2. Evident military ability seen in his three defences of Lorien and subsequent conquest of Dol Guldur. 3. Ability and popularity as a ruler. He stayed on to rule a contented Rivendell without his wife, and apparently lasted a good long time (fanfic authors even like to say he left in the Seventh Age...) __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

03-09-2006, 12:38 PM	#10
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I don't know who I am making angry with this vote, or who I help (except the one who wrote me), but I'm casting this vote. . . and hoping I won't find it necessary to cast another. ++Khamul - - Folwrey __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

03-10-2006, 01:43 AM	#11
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Thank you, everyone, for helping me exact my revenge. Especially you Formendacil for having such a mood as you had when the Day ended. I'm sorry dancing spawn, but I am left far too devastated by Ereinion's death to even bother about Celeborn - who I now see deserves to last longer in this game. My next target? ++OROPHIR Come now...look at what he has helped bring forth into the world! Captain Obvious himself! Besides...I didn't even know who he was before I asked Nilp.

03-10-2006, 03:28 AM	#12
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Names I will not take from you, of elf-hater or thrall. I am neither. Furthermore, I respect fine battle-craft in my enemies as well as my allies, and can only admire the mustering that occured in the dying hours of the campaign last night. I remain, however, committed to balance in this game, and feel that in the spirit of fairness we should focus on one of the most numerous tribes today - the Elendili or the Sindar. To prove I am no mindless elf-culler, I choose the Elendili. Here, the obvious candidate must be Amandil. He doesn't want to be on Middle Earth anyway. He proved it not just in his actions, sailing off to the west, but in his very name: it means "devoted to Aman". So vote off Amandil. It's what he would have wanted. Those years being 'wormtongue' to Ar-Pharazon have taken their toll, as well.... ++AMANDIL __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

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