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Gil-Galad · 03-25-2006, 04:21 PM

++ tar-Miriel

she could have handled herself better as queen...

the phantom · 03-25-2006, 05:08 PM

+ + Tar Miriel

What did she do?

1) She married her cousin. At least Turin didn't know when he married a relative. Tar Miriel knew and still did it.

2) She allowed her husband to fall under Sauron's spell. She should've been putting her husband under her spell.

3) She obviously wasn't too cozy with "The Faithful", otherwise she would've escaped from the island with them. So, it seems she wasn't hanging with the right crowd.

Hmmm... I can't find anything that Tar Miriel did that is worthy of any Survivor recognition. Why is she still here?

Lalaith · 03-26-2006, 02:18 AM

Oh, this is too much to be borne. Is it not enough that the fairest lady of Numenor was wronged, terribly, once, that you must wrong her again, now, and slur her memory?

Phantom, I seem to remember Ar-Pharazon was one of your favourites, wasn't he? You remember, the bloke who married his cousin by force?
So it's ok to force someone into incest, but not ok to be forced?

I suppose it was her fault for wearing her skirt too short, was it

Like so many other heroes of Middle Earth, Tar-Miriel tried to fight against the forces of evil but failed, in particularly tragic circumstances. We can go some small way to recompense her here, on Survivor.
Celeborn...well...a decent enough chap but his little-Galadhrim tendencies, leading to the isolationist dwarf-hating policies of the Third Age, are already becoming apparent.
++CELEBORN

03-25-2006, 04:21 PM	#1
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	++ tar-Miriel she could have handled herself better as queen... __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

03-25-2006, 05:08 PM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	+ + Tar Miriel What did she do? 1) She married her cousin. At least Turin didn't know when he married a relative. Tar Miriel knew and still did it. 2) She allowed her husband to fall under Sauron's spell. She should've been putting her husband under her spell. 3) She obviously wasn't too cozy with "The Faithful", otherwise she would've escaped from the island with them. So, it seems she wasn't hanging with the right crowd. Hmmm... I can't find anything that Tar Miriel did that is worthy of any Survivor recognition. Why is she still here? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-26-2006, 02:18 AM	#3
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Oh, this is too much to be borne. Is it not enough that the fairest lady of Numenor was wronged, terribly, once, that you must wrong her again, now, and slur her memory? Phantom, I seem to remember Ar-Pharazon was one of your favourites, wasn't he? You remember, the bloke who married his cousin by force? So it's ok to force someone into incest, but not ok to be forced? I suppose it was her fault for wearing her skirt too short, was it Like so many other heroes of Middle Earth, Tar-Miriel tried to fight against the forces of evil but failed, in particularly tragic circumstances. We can go some small way to recompense her here, on Survivor. Celeborn...well...a decent enough chap but his little-Galadhrim tendencies, leading to the isolationist dwarf-hating policies of the Third Age, are already becoming apparent. ++CELEBORN __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

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