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Old 03-28-2006, 04:58 PM   #1
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Thanks! Luckily I had just finished typing this out.

Ok, I've read through all of Sleepy's posts, and I think I understand why he has suspicion.

He seemed serious enough at first. Then he got into trusting random people for no reason, and getting on peoples good side. Then he got a little silly a few times, a little defensive. Kinda all over the place. Not really a lot to go on but it seems to be the person I can find the most reasons for suspecting.

I know that being one of (or the) last person to vote for him will get me in trouble tomorrow. If he's guilty you'll say I was tryiing to save my own hide, if he's innocent you'll say I was trying to save Fareal.

But anyway.

Without further delay:

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I'm sorry for sealing your fate if you are innocent.
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Old 03-28-2006, 05:37 PM   #2
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The sun began to go down on the first day of the attacks. The villagers seemed to be confused and their votes spread out.

"I say we kill the Mayor of this village, He has been acting strangely!" Shouted Garin.

"I say we kill Me!...No wait Eonwe...No Farael....No Thinlomien...hhhmmmm Hey I say we kill Glirdan! I never noticed him before. Argued Formendabras.

"This is all nonsense!" Stated Mormegil. " I say we kill Thinlomien, I think there's something fishy about her."

The arguing and speculations finally came to an end.
The villagers choose their noble Mayor to be the object of their violence.

"I say we throw him in the river! I hear they hate water!" Said Nogrod.
"But remember we Hobbits hate water just as much!" Shouted Telperaca.

And so the villagers bound Sleepy Ranger's hands behind his back and led him to the rivers edge.

"Any last words? Asked Kitanna.

" I swear it's not me! I just don't want to be thrown in the river! I can not swim, I tell you! I say Farael is the one you are after, not me!" Sleepy let out as he hopped on one foot.

"So long fair mayor, may you be a Werecat!" said Wilwarin538.

And with that they threw him into the deeps of the river.At first he sunk to the bottom, then came bobbing to the surface sputtering and growling? His skin began to change and he began to grow in size."How dare you all! said the giant, drenched feline with the torn ear. "We will have your town...even if you kill me!" With those last words, the once fair seeming mayor screamed his rage as he gulped down mouthfulls of water, until his lungs were full and he screamed no more.

Dead villagers:

Dead villagers:
Valier: Tomato grower- Died from a thousand cuts. Moderator
Naria- Pediotrist-Was danced upon until she died.Co-Moderater
Sleepy Ranger-Mayor-Drowned by village on Day 1 Werecat

Live villagers:
Telperaca-Baker
Kitanna-Grumpy old woman
Diamond18-Barmaid
Roa-Aoife-Folklorist
Wilwarin538-Berry picker
Nogrod-Ale brewer
Garin-Weathered former mercenary
Kath-Ale drinker
Alcarillo-Fisherman
Eonwe-Wayfaring stranger
Farael-Foolofatook
Formendabras Took- Ne'er-do-well
Glirdan-Barman at the local Inn
Mormegil-Shirriff
Thinlomien-Postwoman

Remaining Werecats I need your nightly pick, as well as the Seeker and Protector I need your picks as well.
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Old 03-29-2006, 04:59 PM   #3
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The dawn of the Second day draws upon the village.The occupants wake from their beds and hurry to the town center to meet and discuss what to do.But when they arrive they see someone sprawled on the ground, in an unnatural position.There lay Nogrod the Ale maker.A look of horror was upon his face, but something was missing...His tongue had been torn from his mouth and was nowhere to be found. A note was laided on his chest reading...

You will all pay for what you have done!
We Two are still better than thee!
What have you to say now?
Nothing! Because us Cats got your tongue!
Get out! Get out!
We will have this Puuurrrfect village!
It shall be our own!

Signed: The Two


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Valier: Tomato grower- Died from a thousand cuts.( Moderator)
Naria- Pediotrist-Was danced upon until she died.(Co-Moderater)
Sleepy Ranger-Mayor-Drowned by village on Day 1 (Werecat)
Nogrod-Ale maker-Werecats got his tongue Night 1 (Ordinary villager)

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Telperaca-Baker
Kitanna-Grumpy old woman
Diamond18-Barmaid
Roa-Aoife-Folklorist
Wilwarin538-Berry picker
Garin-Weathered former mercenary
Kath-Ale drinker
Alcarillo-Fisherman
Eonwe-Wayfaring stranger
Farael-Foolofatook
Formendabras Took- Ne'er-do-well
Glirdan-Barman at the local Inn
Mormegil-Shirriff
Thinlomien-Postwoman

Werecats stop pming. Taker and Protector you may start pming.
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:13 PM   #4
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Wow!! This is a shock. But I may have an idea as to why he was attacked. But before I get to that, let me apologise for not being able to vote. I got all tied up at the Inn (check the notice board for more info) and couldn't get back on time to vote.

Now, on to more pressing matters.

As I said, I think I may have discovered the reasoning behind the attack on Nogrod.

His post #43

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I don't know about this one... At the TiGJ thread Valier was singing, that if we lack ideas, we should check the narration - and she told us beforehand to try to make some new things time to time...

So please read this note left by the Three, and check the initial letters:

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We three are better than thee!
We want your town.
It shall be ours.
Get out, get out while you can!
Or we three shall kill thee one by one.
This is the Puuurrrfect village!
We shall have it even if you don't please!
Signed: The Three


So it makes: WW I GO T W S

Thinlomien / Teleparca?
Wilwarin?
Sleepy?

I just couldn't believe, it would be this simple, but I guess this is worth noticing. Not the least because of concerns about Lommy (by Morm) and some mine about Sleepy (underlining his random-voting early on - although this not the first time he does that).
If you note, Sleepy posted right after responding to this. He was later proven a Wolf. What does that tell us? The note had all three of the Wolves initials in there? Or was there just one? Or was it complete luck that we got Sleepy as Wolf? I definetly suggest looking into the other three mention above (Wilwa, Lommy and Tele)

I'm now going to go back and take a look at the death post as well as look over all of Nogrod's, Sleepy's and the other three mentioned above posts.
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:17 PM   #5
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Also I will make it clear here. I was bluffing about the hints! I just wanted to make the first day more interesting, so don't take anything I write as a blatant hint. So sorry! I have assigned myself to Mordor for that!
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Old 03-29-2006, 05:39 PM   #6
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It wasn't a mere coincidence that Sleepy Ranger turned out to be werecat. I was generally suspicious of him because of his behavior. Of course, I was't 100% certain and didn't want to initiate a bandwagon for an innocent but stuck to my vote. I'm rather proud but surprised he didn't put up more of a fight. Time-zones, I guess.

I'm pretty sure Sleepy was already doomed when Wilwarin made a last minute vote for him, I'll need to double-check. This could be a feline manuever.

We might want to try out poor Nogrod's list today and see what happens. Of course, the day is young and we'll see what happens.


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Old 03-29-2006, 05:40 PM   #7
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Nogrod

Post #31 - A checking in post and just noting everything that was going on.

Post #37 - Does a "synopsis" that is "not an accurate order of things happening, but more like trying to bind things together". Does a quick vote count. Notes that Farael and Eonwe seem to be the most controversial villagers and doesn't see either as overly suspicious. Is worried about us lynching the outspoken villagers.

Post #38 - Double post. Gives opinion that Farael and Enowe are innocent and suggests we widen the scope of voting.

Post #43 - I've already given more information on this exact post above.

Post #49 - Quotes Roa and agrees with her(him?). Finds Sleepy's interpretations over read. Responds to Roa once again.

Post #51 - Quotes and responds to Sleepy.

Post #53 - Quotes voting posts of Farael, Alcarillo, Form, Lommy, Teleperca and Sleepy.

Post #74 - Updates voting list. Appreciates the trust Sleepy has of him yet doesn't return it. Concerned about Sleepy's speculations of Gifteds. Notes Sleepy's differrent posting pattern.

Post #76 - Finds Sleepy's explanations reasonable. Doesn't like random voting and gives reasons why it would suit the Wolves.

Post # 79 - Updates votes.

Post #88 - Says he can't see the "one-posters" as suspicious yet and gives who they are (Kath, Kitanna, Wilwa, Alca, Teleperca and myelf).

Post #89 - Double post. Gives his suspicion list.

Post #94 - Votes Sleepy and give updated voting list.

My thoughts - Just Valier's post about not to take what she said on the notice board (the original thread) seriously. But I'm not sure if we should do that. Look what happened yesterDay? Nogrod got it right about Sleepy. What if he was right abou Wilwa and Lommy/Teleperca? It is possible that it was complete luck, but I think we need to test that to make sure. I know I said I'd do an analysis of other things and I will when I return.
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Ok, I've read through all of Sleepy's posts, and I think I understand why he has suspicion.

He seemed serious enough at first. Then he got into trusting random people for no reason, and getting on peoples good side. Then he got a little silly a few times, a little defensive. Kinda all over the place. Not really a lot to go on but it seems to be the person I can find the most reasons for suspecting.

I know that being one of (or the) last person to vote for him will get me in trouble tomorrow. If he's guilty you'll say I was tryiing to save my own hide, if he's innocent you'll say I was trying to save Fareal.



I'm sorry for sealing your fate if you are innocent.
See Wilwarin you did not seal his fate and you weren't saving Farael. I found the wording really odd and it seems kittyish I think you came back and saw your comrade was dead and that you could do nothing to save him and voted him to show how innocent you are. Strategies like this don't escape me and I will stop them. I could be off here but the way in which you worder the bolded statement seems odd and that you are trying to hedge yourself against any suspicion.
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I will say it again...I don't think we should use any hint real or perceived as any evidence! It goes against the game and should not be included or used to sway opinion.
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Mormegil: Strategies like this don't escape me and I will stop them. I could be off here but the way in which you worder the bolded statement seems odd and that you are trying to hedge yourself against any suspicion.
Agreed that Wilwarin's language seemed rather contrived.

As for for taking hint's from Valier's narrative ... Maybe Nogrod figured them out and she wants her game to last more than 3 days. I am not sure I believe this but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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Agreed that Wilwarin's language seemed rather contrived.

As for for taking hint's from Valier's narrative ... Maybe Nogrod figured them out and she wants her game to last more than 3 days. I am not sure I believe this but I thought I'd throw it out there.
I don't think it's relevant and sincerely petition everybody to not pay any attention to any possible hint. Let's just play the game.
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I'm going to get a vote out now because my intuition was correct yesterday.
Mormegil mirrored my thoughts about Wilwarin yesterday. (not saying I trust him yet, but Nogrod trusted both of us and Diamond on day 1.)

I still suspect them both, I will not grant anyone immunity from the noose just yet.

Her fellow werecat was doomed and she sent him a tear-jerking apology. Then she made the preemptive defenses on her maneuver for the next day. Hopefully, I am batting a thousand in something besides getting lynched.

It is retractable.

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Garin: As for for taking hint's from Valier's narrative ... Maybe Nogrod figured them out and she wants her game to last more than 3 days. I am not sure I believe this but I thought I'd throw it out there.
I regret saying this and would like to apologize to our Moderator and regret questioning her motives. It was just a theory that I didn't believe in, personally.

I guess I was trying to figure out why Nogrod was killed and who else might have been on the martyr's list. I was suspecting Wilwarin since the end of the first day and she is on the list along with Sleepy Feline.

I guess what I am saying is that we shouldn't ignore Nogrod's list even though it was derived from a questionable hint-hunt.

Apologies to the dearly departed Valier and may the village live on.
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While the hints by Valier was just to make things more interesting, Glirdan may be onto something.
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If you note, Sleepy posted right after responding to this. He was later proven a Wolf. What does that tell us? The note had all three of the Wolves initials in there? Or was there just one? Or was it complete luck that we got Sleepy as Wolf? I definetly suggest looking into the other three mention above (Wilwa, Lommy and Tele)
The hint was nothing, but Nogrod's explanation of it and then Sleepy's immediate post that followed is a point of interest. Now Nogrod pinpointed Sleepy who has been proven guilty, but it may be possible Nogrod hit one of the other wolves as well and that pushed Sleepy to give his own explanation of the so-called hints. If that makes sense to anyone beside me. That's something to think about. But it's possible Nogrod just got Sleepy right and Sleepy was trying to dodge attention by offering his own idea about the "hint".

Thinlomien, Teleparca, and Wilwarin are three to watch and see, but I wouldn't base everything on a few posts that may just have been coincidence. Though I am rather sketchy of Teleparca. Wilwa's another one I'm pretty uneasy about. I have no real opinion on Lommy quite yet.

What I could and would have said about Wilwa already seems to have been said by Morm, so no need to repeat.
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I think what got me the most about that was the part about trying to save Farael. At the time Wilwa voted day was about to end and Sleepy was ahead by two votes and so unless several people planned on changing votes in the last three minutes Farael didn't need to be saved.
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Good!! We got one, now two more to go.

++Eonwe

I still think that his random vote strategy is far too convenient to use should you be a werecat. Furthermore, it fits with my theory that the three to postulate themselves as "completely random voters" are werecats indeed. Untill swayed otherwise, I shall vote for Eonwe.

And yes, given my past history with a certain Aiwolfdil and now Sleepy, my ego has grown far too big. Either that or I'm trusting my luck and gut instinct a little more. In any case, Eonwe's going down, even if it means I'm going down with him.
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