Alternate "Hiding the Ring" strategies

[Morsul the Dark]

Here's an Idea ...or...this

for the record unless somehow actually told him where it was i dont think Sauron would know. I mean Frodo(again i come back to this scene) was about 20 feet away from the witchking in mordor and nobody noticed.

ITs was on the bottom of the anduin for 2 and a half milenia and yet no one found it(except deagel) and gollum killed him for it(although Im willing to bet it could have been any "pretty thing" and he would have killed it smeagel was already evil at heart in my opinion.

But then Gollum had it for 500 years putting it on and talking it off so routinely its obsene to think sauron wouldnt have noticed.

so personally i think hiding it is a very feesable idea especially if those who hid it were kamakaze mercenaries who would die not revealing the secret hidin spot. like galadriel said at the begging of the fellowship or tree beard in ttt the ring eventually passed out of all knowledge.

although this could be why noone noticed frodo had the ring

[Eldar14]

It was on the bottom of the Anduin for 2 and a half millenia ... and it still managed to resurface.

It was uder a mountain for 500 years ... and it still managed to see the light of day again.

You just give examples where the ring was lost ... for a while. Sauron will live forever as long as the ring is whole. He can wait.

Also, during both of these examples Sauron was in a state of regaining most of his power, and probably spent most of that time completely bodiless and powerless.

And in regards to the ring not being noticed on Frodo, that's kind of the whole reason armies worth of men and elves fought hopeless battle after hopeless battle; Sauron was distracted and had his eyes pointed outside of Mordor.

And as for the ring passing out of knowledge: Sauron never forgot about the ring. And as long as he remembers, it doesn't really matter if everyone else has forgotten.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Here's a thought:

The fortunes of the "good guys" in Middle-earth
can (and do) wax and wane. After all, the Last Alliance
defeated Sauron with the Ring. It seems conceivable
that if the Ring was kept hidden until a time when
Sauron was on the defensive, perhaps even
driven away from Mordor, then a troop of good guys,
a sort of superfellowship, could waltz into Mordor and semi-coerce/
encourage/etc. the ringbearer to dispose of the ring.

[Thalion]

While Elrond (or Gandalf?) dismissed the ocean
solution (presumably on the suggestion of
JRRT) it has some merits. Wouldn't Ulmo,
one of the most (the most?) committed to
Middle-earth vala, have had an interest in safeguarding it?

The Valar would not become involved in the troubles of Middle Earth...thats why they sent the Istari...and removed Valinor and the undying lands from the reaches of the earth...they wouldn't forsake Middle-Earth entirely...but they decided to have no directly influence...heck even the Istari weren't supposted to have commit and overt actions, but rather guide the people's of middle earth...this is also why it is doubtful that they would have allowed the ring to come to Aman or the undying lands or that Ulmo would hide the ring...additionally this rules out them "chucking it into the void" or Ilman or any outwordly part of Arda, if they even had the power to do so...Morgoth's binding was a special case, probably with the authority granted by none other than Illuvatar

Another thought. If the "good guys" had gotten
control of Orthanc could it have been sealed there
(covering the top entrance with more orthanc rock
and barring windows with orthanc rock?

Problems with this are 1) where do you get Orthanc rock that looks like it was formed from the Earth itself and not by human hands? 2) How would they get Saruman out of Orthanc? 3) Gandalf says in Two Towers that although they cannot destroy Orthanc, he isn't sure of the capabilities of Sauron...so it may not be safe there anyways...

The fortunes of the "good guys" in Middle-earth
can (and do) wax and wane. After all, the Last Alliance
defeated Sauron with the Ring. It seems conceivable
that if the Ring was kept hidden until a time when
Sauron was on the defensive, perhaps even
driven away from Mordor, then a troop of good guys,
a sort of superfellowship, could waltz into Mordor and semi-coerce/
encourage/etc. the ringbearer to dispose of the ring.

This Last Alliance was able to defeat Sauron because Gondor was strong and the elves were still inhabited in Middle Earth...at the time of LOTR this was not the case, and I think it is said specifically in LOTR (possibly the council of Elrond) that there exists no power left in Middle Earth to hold back the enemy of the ring is not destroyed...additionally, the battle of Pelenor almost ends badly for the combined forces of Rohan and Gondor and they are getting their butts kicked outside the Gates of Mordor before the ring is actually destroyed...therefore, I think hiding the ring would not have solved their problems as they would eventually be defeated anyways and then Sauron would have an easier time searching all of Middle Earth for the ring...

Lastly...hiding the ring would only have been a temporary solution...it was "hidden" at the bottom of the Aunduin...it was "hidden" at the bottom of the Misty Mountains in the keeping of one who never intended EVER to give it up or even come out into the daylight...therefore giving it to Gollum to keep on an island would only lead eventually to some other power/creater/being finding him there and most likely bringing the ring back to Middle Earth