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Old 03-30-2006, 12:49 PM   #1
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Roa: Also, your first post today, drawing attention to your sleepy vote makes you very suspicious in my mind. It seems like your saying, "See? I voted for a cat! I must be innocent," which is exactly what I would expect a cat to say.
I'm sorry I seem upset but there happens to be a matter of where the vote appears. Wilwarin's last minute vote and dialogue is suspicious and is completely different from my vote for Sleepy.
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Old 03-30-2006, 12:51 PM   #2
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Garin, you don't seem upset. And you haven't answered that suspicion. Pointing out your own vote like that was suspicious, and as far as you knew, it was the first post. (You marked that you had cross-posted with the first two posters.)
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:06 PM   #3
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No need to apologize, Kath, I didn't want to turn into Thin anyways. (No offense Thin.)

I'd like to take a moment to address a few things - first, I'm female. You can see my pic on the BD photopage to prove it. And don't worry, no offense taken. (I'm told I have very masculine behavior anyways....)

Second, I disagree that referencing past games is in poor taste. People who have played in certain past games can remember the behavior of the other villagers. Ie, "So-and-so acted like this when they were a gifted, but like this when they were a wolf." Also, references to past games can help devise strategies. True, every game is different, but certain trends appear time and time again. The last game I played in, my fellow seer mangaed to let an innocent know who she was by hinting at a past game with a similar situation. Experience counts for something here. Trying to take away the advantage of an experienced player isn't playing fairly.

The new players will catch on. And if they listen to those with more experience, they may catch the subtleties of the game a lot faster.
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:14 PM   #4
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Okay, I'm totally at sea here...

Well, not completely, but I'm becoming VERY aware just how seperate the WWJ and the main WW communities are... There is some overlap, of course, but I haven't been this clueless about so much of a village since my first game...

That said, Alcarillo's name has come up a couple times as being annoyingly quiet in posting, showing up towards the end, posting a vote with little explanation.

Now, this is perfectly normal for Alcarillo. I don't know if this is a style he has consciously chosen, or if it's a problem to be associated with Real Life. Either way, he has an annoying tendency to slip under the radar.

This can be a good thing. Alcarillo was once a Ranger, and was able to survive for the better portion of the game, protecting the Seer and other miscellaneous sorts.

It can also be a bad thing. Alcarillo was once a Werewolf, and survived to win the game.

Personally, I am of the opinion that it is a bad thing. Most likely, stats being what they are, Alcarillo is an Ordo- but with his low posting rate, we'll never know. If he's a Werewolf... er, Werecat, then we'll never know either.

If he's a Gifted... then sorry.

++ Alcarillo
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:19 PM   #5
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If someone could please post an analysis of Farael, I would be much obliged. I don't really have the energy for it right now. I don't know if I'll be back on before closing. For now, my suspicion is with Garin.

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If I manage to get on and find someone else more suspicious, I'll change my vote.

Edit: Cross posted with Garin- I believe Kath requested you defend yourself without the rudeness and high-mindedness.

Also, Alca, there's another werewolf community you've been neglecting. *points to signature*
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:37 PM   #6
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Kath: I would like to hear from Garin regarding this, preferably without rude comments and general high-mindedness.
Gosh, do you know me, Kath?

I wasn't gloating about starting Sleepy's bandwagon. I simply wanted to state that my vote was not a random one and was based on suspicion. I was also delighted that we killed a Werecat and I cast the first vote!

That is not suspicious, that is a villager celebrating.

Vote for me if you must.

Oh, and Roa.

Which one are you?
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Old 03-30-2006, 02:43 PM   #7
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Second, I disagree that referencing past games is in poor taste. People who have played in certain past games can remember the behavior of the other villagers. Ie, "So-and-so acted like this when they were a gifted, but like this when they were a wolf." Also, references to past games can help devise strategies. True, every game is different, but certain trends appear time and time again. The last game I played in, my fellow seer mangaed to let an innocent know who she was by hinting at a past game with a similar situation. Experience counts for something here. Trying to take away the advantage of an experienced player isn't playing fairly.
If we are going that way I see nothing abnormal in Garin's behavior than my past experiences with him, and they are many!

Oddly Kath seems innocent...is that good or bad? We always seem to suspect each other and yet she doesn't strike me as suspicious. Roa I think is helpful but possibly misdirected. I really don't think Garin is a wolf and would be folly to lynch the poor chap. Plus Nilp would cry.
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Old 03-30-2006, 02:52 PM   #8
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What I meant Glirdan is that you didn't vote and you harldy have suspicion, I voted and now I have a lot(maybe I was exagerating with the "all" Morm). So maybe I would have been better of not voting at all.

Technicaly I was kinda sealing Sleepy's fate. Glirdan still had to vote. Sleepy had 4 and Fareal had 3. If I voted for Sleepy there would have been no possible way of having a tie. If I voted for Fareal, Glirdan could still have come back and also voted for Fareal, keeping Sleepy alive. So by me voting for him I was making sure that Fareal couldn't die in his place. The only thing that worried me about that was if Sleepy was innocent and we found out later that Fareal was guilty, then you would all go back and think I was protecting Fareal. But I was consintrating more on short term. I had also promised to come back and vote, I thought that if I didn't then you would all think I was trying to keep myself away from the spotlight. That's the way I was thinking yeasterDay. All sorts of scenarios. I must have been thinking to much into it, cause I made the wrong choice.

To Kath: I was thinking about my own safety yesterDay, I admit it. But I always find it hard to be really suspicious of someone so early anyway, so on Day 1s I consintrate on what will keep me alive , and what will get me away from suspicion.( I know it sounds somewhat selfish but its how I've always played Day1s) Then once we have more to go I base my votes solely on how suspicious they seem to me.

So there it is, believe me or don't believe me. There really is nothing more I can say.

Be back a little later to vote.
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