WWJ Attack of the Werecats:The ppuuuurrfect village - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Roa_Aoife · 03-30-2006, 01:06 PM

No need to apologize, Kath, I didn't want to turn into Thin anyways. (No offense Thin.)

I'd like to take a moment to address a few things - first, I'm female. You can see my pic on the BD photopage to prove it. And don't worry, no offense taken. (I'm told I have very masculine behavior anyways....)

Second, I disagree that referencing past games is in poor taste. People who have played in certain past games can remember the behavior of the other villagers. Ie, "So-and-so acted like this when they were a gifted, but like this when they were a wolf." Also, references to past games can help devise strategies. True, every game is different, but certain trends appear time and time again. The last game I played in, my fellow seer mangaed to let an innocent know who she was by hinting at a past game with a similar situation. Experience counts for something here. Trying to take away the advantage of an experienced player isn't playing fairly.

The new players will catch on. And if they listen to those with more experience, they may catch the subtleties of the game a lot faster.

Formendacil · 03-30-2006, 01:14 PM

Okay, I'm totally at sea here...

Well, not completely, but I'm becoming VERY aware just how seperate the WWJ and the main WW communities are... There is some overlap, of course, but I haven't been this clueless about so much of a village since my first game...

That said, Alcarillo's name has come up a couple times as being annoyingly quiet in posting, showing up towards the end, posting a vote with little explanation.

Now, this is perfectly normal for Alcarillo. I don't know if this is a style he has consciously chosen, or if it's a problem to be associated with Real Life. Either way, he has an annoying tendency to slip under the radar.

This can be a good thing. Alcarillo was once a Ranger, and was able to survive for the better portion of the game, protecting the Seer and other miscellaneous sorts.

It can also be a bad thing. Alcarillo was once a Werewolf, and survived to win the game.

Personally, I am of the opinion that it is a bad thing. Most likely, stats being what they are, Alcarillo is an Ordo- but with his low posting rate, we'll never know. If he's a Werewolf... er, Werecat, then we'll never know either.

If he's a Gifted... then sorry.

++ Alcarillo

Roa_Aoife · 03-30-2006, 01:19 PM

If someone could please post an analysis of Farael, I would be much obliged. I don't really have the energy for it right now. I don't know if I'll be back on before closing. For now, my suspicion is with Garin.

++Garin

If I manage to get on and find someone else more suspicious, I'll change my vote.

Edit: Cross posted with Garin- I believe Kath requested you defend yourself without the rudeness and high-mindedness.

Also, Alca, there's another werewolf community you've been neglecting. *points to signature*

Garin · 03-30-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Kath: I would like to hear from Garin regarding this, preferably without rude comments and general high-mindedness.

Gosh, do you know me, Kath?

I wasn't gloating about starting Sleepy's bandwagon. I simply wanted to state that my vote was not a random one and was based on suspicion. I was also delighted that we killed a Werecat and I cast the first vote!

That is not suspicious, that is a villager celebrating.

Vote for me if you must.

Oh, and Roa.

Which one are you?

mormegil · 03-30-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa

Second, I disagree that referencing past games is in poor taste. People who have played in certain past games can remember the behavior of the other villagers. Ie, "So-and-so acted like this when they were a gifted, but like this when they were a wolf." Also, references to past games can help devise strategies. True, every game is different, but certain trends appear time and time again. The last game I played in, my fellow seer mangaed to let an innocent know who she was by hinting at a past game with a similar situation. Experience counts for something here. Trying to take away the advantage of an experienced player isn't playing fairly.

If we are going that way I see nothing abnormal in Garin's behavior than my past experiences with him, and they are many!

Oddly Kath seems innocent...is that good or bad? We always seem to suspect each other and yet she doesn't strike me as suspicious. Roa I think is helpful but possibly misdirected. I really don't think Garin is a wolf and would be folly to lynch the poor chap. Plus Nilp would cry.

mormegil · 03-30-2006, 02:47 PM

Eonwe--1 (Farael)
Wilwarin--3 (Garin, Alcarillo, Morm)
Glirdan--1 (Thinlo)
Alcarillo-- (Formen)
Garin--1 (Roa)

wilwarin538 · 03-30-2006, 02:52 PM

What I meant Glirdan is that you didn't vote and you harldy have suspicion, I voted and now I have a lot(maybe I was exagerating with the "all" Morm). So maybe I would have been better of not voting at all.

Technicaly I was kinda sealing Sleepy's fate. Glirdan still had to vote. Sleepy had 4 and Fareal had 3. If I voted for Sleepy there would have been no possible way of having a tie. If I voted for Fareal, Glirdan could still have come back and also voted for Fareal, keeping Sleepy alive. So by me voting for him I was making sure that Fareal couldn't die in his place. The only thing that worried me about that was if Sleepy was innocent and we found out later that Fareal was guilty, then you would all go back and think I was protecting Fareal. But I was consintrating more on short term. I had also promised to come back and vote, I thought that if I didn't then you would all think I was trying to keep myself away from the spotlight. That's the way I was thinking yeasterDay. All sorts of scenarios. I must have been thinking to much into it, cause I made the wrong choice.

To Kath: I was thinking about my own safety yesterDay, I admit it. But I always find it hard to be really suspicious of someone so early anyway, so on Day 1s I consintrate on what will keep me alive , and what will get me away from suspicion.( I know it sounds somewhat selfish but its how I've always played Day1s) Then once we have more to go I base my votes solely on how suspicious they seem to me.

So there it is, believe me or don't believe me. There really is nothing more I can say.

Be back a little later to vote.

Eonwe · 03-30-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farael

In any case, Eonwe's going down, even if it means I'm going down with him.

Ha-ha! We shall be jointly annihilated in a giant super-nova explotion!

++Farael

Diamond18 · 03-30-2006, 03:17 PM

I am afraid that Glirdan is going to die today because he didn't vote yesterDay and didn't think he'd get a vote in toDay, either. I'm talking Mod-fire from Heaven death. So if we mistakenly kill an innocent toDay and Glirdan is zapped and turns out to be an innocent, we've lost two in one Day followed by one in the Night. This is three innocents in a row and I do not like that math.

I'm not particularly suspcious of Glirdan myself, but I'd rather have just one innocent die toDay than possibly two. I do not intend to vote for Wilwa because it's my suspicion that the Werecats want us to do that, and I fear that if she's lynched toDay she will prove innocent.

Right now I'm going to vote:

+ + Glirdan

If he votes toDay I may retract. In fact I most likely will. But if he doesn't vote toDay I would encourage others to vote for him as well because if he doesn't vote he is doomed anyway!

X-posted with Eonwe and Garin and Morm.

Garin · 03-30-2006, 03:05 PM

Oh Wilwarin, I always feel guilty when sending someone to the noose. Especially a woman. If you have a concrete reason to lynch another, please be out with it!

Thanks for not reacting to my vote the way, say, Garin would. Yes, I am a very vindictive PERSON and trying not to react to anyone who dares second-guess my honorable intentions.

I will go back to work and scan the thread and see if I need to change anything.

mormegil · 03-30-2006, 03:11 PM

--Wilwarin

++Eonwe

I am moderately placated at Wilwa and am now uncertain as to her guilt. I will give her the benefit of the doubt today, however Eonwe seems rather irratic and dangerous. I've had some nagging suspicion of him and I will see what I think.

Wilwa, as a fair warning, however, you are not out of the microscope. I will analyze everything you say very closely. While I took away my vote today I still may tomorrow.

Eonwe · 03-30-2006, 03:14 PM

Ok, time to cut the shenanigans...

First off, congrats to those who voted for Sleepy. I was banking he was just messing around. It actaully rather surprises me that he allowed himself to get caught this early. Anyway, miricals DO happen.

Actaully, I find Farael to be either very innocent or incredibly suspicious. Aren't they always that way though? Would a wolf really attack someone that boldly? Bluff or no-bluff? that is the question. But I'm leaning toward innocence on this one.

Wilwa is certainly looking suspicious. But I wouldn't vote for her on a time issue. The vote of Sleepy is a bit suspicious, though. However, I'm not entirely conviced Kitty-Wilwa would do something like that. If I was cat in her postion, I would have voted for someone with just a few votes. Maybe one or two, but not teh person getting lynched, when I knew it was a wolf. Of course, I'm not Wilwa.

I need to do some more research to become truely informed, but I have a few things to do and not much time to do them in, so I can't promise that I will get the time to research adequately. Sorry, my schedule should be opening up a bit more toward the weekend.

Kath · 03-30-2006, 03:21 PM

Garin, you still haven't answered my other question. Would you please provide reasoning for your suspicions of morm and Lommy? I am not a wereCat and I certainly hope I am not stupid, but unless you answer that I'm afraid my vote will be going to you as you are still the most suspicious person here right now.

Speaking of morm, I too am worried as right now I'm viewing you as innocent. It's freaking me out!

03-30-2006, 01:06 PM	#1
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	No need to apologize, Kath, I didn't want to turn into Thin anyways. (No offense Thin.) I'd like to take a moment to address a few things - first, I'm female. You can see my pic on the BD photopage to prove it. And don't worry, no offense taken. (I'm told I have very masculine behavior anyways....) Second, I disagree that referencing past games is in poor taste. People who have played in certain past games can remember the behavior of the other villagers. Ie, "So-and-so acted like this when they were a gifted, but like this when they were a wolf." Also, references to past games can help devise strategies. True, every game is different, but certain trends appear time and time again. The last game I played in, my fellow seer mangaed to let an innocent know who she was by hinting at a past game with a similar situation. Experience counts for something here. Trying to take away the advantage of an experienced player isn't playing fairly. The new players will catch on. And if they listen to those with more experience, they may catch the subtleties of the game a lot faster. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

03-30-2006, 01:14 PM	#2
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Okay, I'm totally at sea here... Well, not completely, but I'm becoming VERY aware just how seperate the WWJ and the main WW communities are... There is some overlap, of course, but I haven't been this clueless about so much of a village since my first game... That said, Alcarillo's name has come up a couple times as being annoyingly quiet in posting, showing up towards the end, posting a vote with little explanation. Now, this is perfectly normal for Alcarillo. I don't know if this is a style he has consciously chosen, or if it's a problem to be associated with Real Life. Either way, he has an annoying tendency to slip under the radar. This can be a good thing. Alcarillo was once a Ranger, and was able to survive for the better portion of the game, protecting the Seer and other miscellaneous sorts. It can also be a bad thing. Alcarillo was once a Werewolf, and survived to win the game. Personally, I am of the opinion that it is a bad thing. Most likely, stats being what they are, Alcarillo is an Ordo- but with his low posting rate, we'll never know. If he's a Werewolf... er, Werecat, then we'll never know either. If he's a Gifted... then sorry. ++ Alcarillo __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

03-30-2006, 01:19 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	If someone could please post an analysis of Farael, I would be much obliged. I don't really have the energy for it right now. I don't know if I'll be back on before closing. For now, my suspicion is with Garin. ++Garin If I manage to get on and find someone else more suspicious, I'll change my vote. Edit: Cross posted with Garin- I believe Kath requested you defend yourself without the rudeness and high-mindedness. Also, Alca, there's another werewolf community you've been neglecting. points to signature __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen Last edited by Roa_Aoife; 03-30-2006 at 01:22 PM.

03-30-2006, 02:47 PM	#6
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Votes currently Eonwe--1 (Farael) Wilwarin--3 (Garin, Alcarillo, Morm) Glirdan--1 (Thinlo) Alcarillo-- (Formen) Garin--1 (Roa) __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

03-30-2006, 02:52 PM	#7
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	What I meant Glirdan is that you didn't vote and you harldy have suspicion, I voted and now I have a lot(maybe I was exagerating with the "all" Morm). So maybe I would have been better of not voting at all. Technicaly I was kinda sealing Sleepy's fate. Glirdan still had to vote. Sleepy had 4 and Fareal had 3. If I voted for Sleepy there would have been no possible way of having a tie. If I voted for Fareal, Glirdan could still have come back and also voted for Fareal, keeping Sleepy alive. So by me voting for him I was making sure that Fareal couldn't die in his place. The only thing that worried me about that was if Sleepy was innocent and we found out later that Fareal was guilty, then you would all go back and think I was protecting Fareal. But I was consintrating more on short term. I had also promised to come back and vote, I thought that if I didn't then you would all think I was trying to keep myself away from the spotlight. That's the way I was thinking yeasterDay. All sorts of scenarios. I must have been thinking to much into it, cause I made the wrong choice. To Kath: I was thinking about my own safety yesterDay, I admit it. But I always find it hard to be really suspicious of someone so early anyway, so on Day 1s I consintrate on what will keep me alive , and what will get me away from suspicion.( I know it sounds somewhat selfish but its how I've always played Day1s) Then once we have more to go I base my votes solely on how suspicious they seem to me. So there it is, believe me or don't believe me. There really is nothing more I can say. Be back a little later to vote. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

03-30-2006, 03:17 PM	#9
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I am afraid that Glirdan is going to die today because he didn't vote yesterDay and didn't think he'd get a vote in toDay, either. I'm talking Mod-fire from Heaven death. So if we mistakenly kill an innocent toDay and Glirdan is zapped and turns out to be an innocent, we've lost two in one Day followed by one in the Night. This is three innocents in a row and I do not like that math. I'm not particularly suspcious of Glirdan myself, but I'd rather have just one innocent die toDay than possibly two. I do not intend to vote for Wilwa because it's my suspicion that the Werecats want us to do that, and I fear that if she's lynched toDay she will prove innocent. Right now I'm going to vote: + + Glirdan If he votes toDay I may retract. In fact I most likely will. But if he doesn't vote toDay I would encourage others to vote for him as well because if he doesn't vote he is doomed anyway! X-posted with Eonwe and Garin and Morm. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression. Last edited by Diamond18; 03-30-2006 at 03:21 PM.

03-30-2006, 03:05 PM	#10
Garin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ciudad de Lago del Sal Posts: 331	Oh Wilwarin, I always feel guilty when sending someone to the noose. Especially a woman. If you have a concrete reason to lynch another, please be out with it! Thanks for not reacting to my vote the way, say, Garin would. Yes, I am a very vindictive PERSON and trying not to react to anyone who dares second-guess my honorable intentions. I will go back to work and scan the thread and see if I need to change anything. __________________ I am a sick man ... I am a spiteful man. I am an unpleasant man. I think my liver is diseased. Fyodor Dostoevsky "Notes From the Underground"

03-30-2006, 03:11 PM	#11
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	--Wilwarin ++Eonwe I am moderately placated at Wilwa and am now uncertain as to her guilt. I will give her the benefit of the doubt today, however Eonwe seems rather irratic and dangerous. I've had some nagging suspicion of him and I will see what I think. Wilwa, as a fair warning, however, you are not out of the microscope. I will analyze everything you say very closely. While I took away my vote today I still may tomorrow. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

03-30-2006, 03:14 PM	#12
Eonwe Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In a world grown ever smaller. Posts: 678	Ok, time to cut the shenanigans... First off, congrats to those who voted for Sleepy. I was banking he was just messing around. It actaully rather surprises me that he allowed himself to get caught this early. Anyway, miricals DO happen. Actaully, I find Farael to be either very innocent or incredibly suspicious. Aren't they always that way though? Would a wolf really attack someone that boldly? Bluff or no-bluff? that is the question. But I'm leaning toward innocence on this one. Wilwa is certainly looking suspicious. But I wouldn't vote for her on a time issue. The vote of Sleepy is a bit suspicious, though. However, I'm not entirely conviced Kitty-Wilwa would do something like that. If I was cat in her postion, I would have voted for someone with just a few votes. Maybe one or two, but not teh person getting lynched, when I knew it was a wolf. Of course, I'm not Wilwa. I need to do some more research to become truely informed, but I have a few things to do and not much time to do them in, so I can't promise that I will get the time to research adequately. Sorry, my schedule should be opening up a bit more toward the weekend. __________________ I've got bridge club on Wednesday, Archery on Thursday, Dancing on a Friday night!

03-30-2006, 03:21 PM	#13
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Garin, you still haven't answered my other question. Would you please provide reasoning for your suspicions of morm and Lommy? I am not a wereCat and I certainly hope I am not stupid, but unless you answer that I'm afraid my vote will be going to you as you are still the most suspicious person here right now. Speaking of morm, I too am worried as right now I'm viewing you as innocent. It's freaking me out! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

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