WWJ VIII ~ Things That Go "Quack" In The Night

[Mithalwen]

I dreamed of Nogrod on the first night. I knew we were likely to have a lot of online time together and after out amazing duels when I was a wolf and he the Seer I had to know if our roles were reversed.


Any more questions or can i let my heart rate settle? The game you should look at is Ang's reverse one. Being gifted overloads my circuits. I hoped to hold out another day and maybe night. I hope that I may get you another dream.... but I may have been protected last night.

[Kath]

So, Mith, are you saying you dreamt of Nogrod and SPM and found both innocent?

[Anguirel]

That'll be it. Of course, Sauce will call her a Goose. Logically he'll be right. I don't stand with logic today.

Mith, you have been vilely slandered. I should have overcome my doubts and stood by you.

We now have

Mith-Owl, endorsed by me for a start
Nogrod-innocent
Sauce-pate-de-foie-gras
Lote-virtual innocent
Valier...plausible innocent

at best.

EDIT: I have read the Iliad, but got excited about the wrong signature-Mith's old one where she said something about booing...made me think Goose.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Kath

So, Mith, are you saying you dreamt of Nogrod and SPM and found both innocent?

Sorry yes - I thought it was obvious I thought NOGROD innocent. Remember when I commented on Roa suspecting me, Spm and Nogrod she was completely wrong? At that point i hoped I had more time. I thought if I died wihtout declaring you might look back and notice.

I am sorry for you innocents - I tried but I am not up to this. I have spoken the truth all along. My nerves won't cope ... I have felt so ill and i am working for the NHS at the moment -year end.. that is unbearably stressy too....... I have palpitations.

Kath - I had thought of freaming for you in case your illness flared up again - so we would know. But in the end I had to know about the Pan Man

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

I really need to go now. I shall vote for

++mormegil

for he was my second suspect of toDay. Good Night!

[Mithalwen]

I found the story when I was seeking subtle ways of indicating my status - no wonder I WAS IRRITATED WITH YOU ALL BLEATING ON about what I should do. My new sig is from the Illiad. A prayer to Athene, whose symbot is the OWL and which is the species name. I hoped that using sophistry and saying to choose wisely might help...

[Kath]

Mith you give us young ones too much credit! I've never read the Illiad!

[Cailín]

Originally Posted by Kath

Mith you give us young ones too much credit! I've never read the Illiad!

I have translated the Illiad!

I am just not very perceptive.

Edit: cross-posted with you, Ang, how does it follow -exactly- that SpM is the goose?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Cailín

I have translated the Illiad!

I am just not very perceptive.

Edit: cross-posted with you, Ang, how does it follow -exactly- that SpM is the goose?

Sorry - last gasp - I think Saucepan man said it would be unbelievable for the Owl to declare on Day 2. Unfortunately he made it impossible for me to do otherwise. But it is ironic ..... If you want more Greek mythology think of Cassandra - doomed never to be believed though her words were true. I know the PanMan is a lot cleverer than me - but I do happen to be telling the truth....

[Cailín]

I have to finish my Yeats assignment thingie still and I also promised myself to go to bed early again (as it clearly did not work before).

Mith is -of course- off my suspect list. JennyHallu and Glirdan still did not speak up. That makes Roa Aoife or Mormegil. Both of them already have a vote. However, there is one of them whom I would really love to know the identity of as soon as possible. This will be no surprise, I'm sure.

So...

++MORMEGIL

As for Saucepan Man, even if he is the Goose he cannot do us much harm now. We should just not take him too seriously, but then again - we should take none of us too seriously. Except for Mith, because she is wise and all-knowing. Or so we hope.

[Nogrod]

Mith!

I've thought about you tomorrow.

Duck-dream is a clear case - it leaves the village with only one duck to get rid of.

But the ordo-dream is a nastier one. Our ducks will read your "hints" as fluently as the rest of the villagers. So you will have to decide, whether to come openly revealing her/him or just leave all in confusion about your pick (that seems to me to be a waste of a dream). So your discretion indeed! But remember: your chosen one will have one more day to live (as you will be killed the night after this one), so pick carefully, thinking, who would be the best asset for the village for two days, but whose loss the village might bear after that. That's a hard choice you're facing... Oh how I would have loved to continue with this one...

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Kath

Mith you give us young ones too much credit! I've never read the Illiad!

Nor have I in total - I was just looking for owl refs and that summed up my mood. I knew about Athena. It was a googlable chunk. Ang seems to know everything.

Less High brow i was tempted to call the Pan man a "Twit who...." but hen I decided to consider that he and Spawn might be in league and in a weird way protecting me with their suspicion. I really had a problem thinking that someone as bright as the pan man could be so narrowminded. To quote my darling mamma again, about her our own family lawyers, it turned out to be all brains and no sense.

If I survive - and I rather hope you won't lynch me now. Any ideas about who I should dream of....?

[Cailín]

If he is not lynched, I would say Mormegil.

But someone like Lalaith - under the radar smarties - might be wise as well.

[Kath]

Yes I would have suggested morm as well. I always want to know the roles of SPM and morm, and since we already know one of the two!

[Cailín]

But, something just occurred to me. We should not discuss your dream of choice en public: if he or she is innocent, the Ducks might kill that person to make sure we have no other known innocent. So I suppose you shall have to make up your own mind.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Cailín

If he is not lynched, I would say Mormegil.

But someone like Lalaith - under the radar smarties - might be wise as well.

Mormegilwas on my short list. Just because I know he is good at being bad.

[Anguirel]

If he's not lynched tonight, morm. Otherwise...hmmm...I wouldn't mind Cailin myself. But you might want spawn.

Cailin, it doesn't necessarily follow that Sauce is a goose, though looking at his bizarre bird-lime scheme, described so well in Mith's revelation, I find it hard to think him only a well-intentioned blunderer. More to the point though I'm guilty that I suspected Mith and needed to grab a scapegoat.

Oh, Mith, did you have to come out? We might not have lynched you. But that's hardly very encouraging, I know. Sorry.

EDIT: Cross-posted since Mith #203.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I say Saucepanman, that I do not accuse you of being a Duck because I know you are not. I dreamed of you last night.

Gah! You're right. I am stupid. I should have spotted your hints. But I have "history" of thinking Seers to be Wolves.

I am an Orc of very little brain indeed.

Still, it's possible that the Nightingale did not protect you last night. Indeed, it's quite probable since you came across as pretty suspicious and not at all Owlish yesterday (as far as I can see, anyway). I would wager that we'll get another dream out of you at least.

For now, however, back to the drawing board ...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Of course, Sauce will call her a Goose.

Actually, it did occur to me that she might be just after I hit the submit button on my last post. It's still possible that she is the Goose. But, for now and without more, I am prepared to accept her claim.

I must go for a few hours now. Back later, hopefully with a few productive thoughts and certainly with a vote.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Actually, it did occur to me that she might be just after I hit the submit button on my last post. It's still possible that she is the Goose. But, for now and without more, I am prepared to accept her claim.

I must go for a few hours now. Back later, hopefully with a few productive thoughts and certainly with a vote.

If I were the goose I should have played my normal obtuse innocent self. Ang can tell you how helpful that can be .... until i have only 2 to choose from.

Nice to know the people I clear appreciate me? LOL.... no matter - I suspect the Orcish amour propre is bruised.

[mormegil]

I'm only on post#145 but I've got a couple of things to say before I go further.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

First of all. So skillful player as he seemingly is (I've only played once with him before this), from his analysis, he seems to totally forget those who have had something against Nilp! Kind of wanting us to focus on these others? There might be some Nilp-voters in yesterday's tally - case Valier comes to mind. But even more, I am worried about those, who just suspected Nilp duckishly-lightly enough to secure their backs (not voting, not straightly accusing, but still "suspecting" or "keeping an eye"...)

You and Ang get the most obtuse award of the game so far. I did focus on the others by citing their quotes. I was letting most people read what was said. I found it more likely that at least one duck was in the little to no mention of Nilp than the two were in the mention group.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Firstly, in morm's initial post, he said something about wanting to hire protection. This seems not only selfish, but distinctly odd, seeing as protection does exist in this game, though it's certainly not for hire...

Again, being obtuse. I'm an idleman and therefore I have a lot of money and was in character asking for somebody to do my work for me. Being so pettily pedantic has my suspicious shifting to you.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Then there came the moment when morm introduced his "What a Goose could do" plan, effectively saying we would have to be careful and treat any Owl revelations as possible impostures. To that I replied-

*sigh* As I said I knew this could bring suspcion on me but I wanted to point out a strategy I would possibly use if I were the goose. It was also done in an attempt to make sure the owl didn't make a suddent mistake. No I don't always trust other peoples judgement as I don't always trust my own but I figured I might be able to help.

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Yesterday, bar post #46, I called morm a Goose. I now say Boo to that (vide Mith's signature) and declare him a full-feathered duck.

He fudged on Nilp yesterday, but did not include himself on the list of negligible Nilp-watchers, or any list at all. As it was not a suspicion ladder per se this is a rather evasive move.

He's also been, let's face it, pretty unhelpful with a slightly reasoned vote, until this morning, when the aid he brought was...well, similar in quality to Mith's statistics yesterday morning. A useful but scarcely enlightening task performed, that's all.

It's always frustrating to attempt to help and clarify situations for people and me too and then to get slammed on the effort it took. Thanks Kath by the way for the compliement. Anguirel what have you done to be helpful to us other than continuing to speak of Nilp and give us rather condescening spelling lesson?

Again remember that I haven't read everything yet but I"m trying to catch up as quickly as I can.

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Again, being obtuse. I'm an idleman and therefore I have a lot of money and was in character asking for somebody to do my work for me. Being so pettily pedantic has my suspicious shifting to you.

Perhaps this whole ludicrous affair has been caused by the fact that where I come from we do not yet automatically associate idleness with wealth.

How typical of life that would be.

You ask what help I have been other than pedagogue. I have contributed your denunciation. As to its use, we will have to see...over your corpse.

[Nogrod]

How much happens, when you are away for a small while!

Well. I guess it's goodbye village, then... The nightingale does the right job protecting Mith. That's obvious and right, as I can't figure out her/him protecting Mith last night...

And that's good news also, as they will have to decide, whether their last night's kill (Spawn, Ang,... whoever was innocent) is more valuable to them (s/he will not be protected) than me as a "proven" innocent. So Mith: good playing: you left them to trouble now! Rot in your scheming you ducky-***-you!

So anyhow: a dream more the next night.

EDIT: TRhis really is a loud village: X-posted from #201 forwards...

[Mithalwen]

Nogrod - I am sorry to expose you - but you are so clever I had to know. I really hope you are the Hawk - and if you are not there is no need to tell anyone so!!!

[Anguirel]

My part here is done and my more prosaic work is not. I leave with a plea to you all not to be suborned by the hailhearted railing of the duck mormegil.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Nogrod - I am sorry to expose you - but you are so clever I had to know.

No problem (and thanks for the second one... ). As I said, you did the best thing possible! The ducks have some tough choices the next night, and that's good, as they tend to get jumpy when faced with challenges...

And you should not be in a great haste, as you can PM your pick all the day tomorrow! So we just try to help you as much as we can - and as cunningly as we can... You just read the night's posts tomorrow in peace, and make your own decision after that!