WWJ VIII ~ Things That Go "Quack" In The Night

[Cailín]

Another question before I continue:

What is the significance, if any, of Kath and Lalaith not believing Glirdan and voting for Mormegil and Roa instead?

We know Lalaith was innocent. How about Kath?

[Cailín]

Wow, my reread has left me even more confused. If Mithalwen is indeed the Goose, then she went to some lengths proving otherwise. She has named two people innocent whom I think are innocent as well and with her everything seems to fit.

Now Glirdan… he gave us a Duck. Accidentally, maybe? Would Glirdan the Goose be convinced of Spawn's innocence? Is he a Duck? Neither of these explanations seem very likely and Mithalwen was not attacked last Night. Of course, the Duck may be as clueless as we are.

So I suppose we shall have to let it slide and focus on other matters. We have fought and argued over this too long: Glirdan and Mith are Goose and Owl and only time will tell who is who. Glirdan seems more trustworthy -he did give us a duck and deserves some credit - but I would not be willing to bet my life on it. If they find a Duck: excellent, we can lynch that person and see who was truthful. If they find innocents: wonderful, but we can never be sure.

Because of yesterDay's proceedings, voting records seem useless. In general, people followed first Mith and then Glirdan with a few notable exceptions:

Kath who voted for Mormegil after Glirdy's revelation yesterDay.
Sleepy who voted for Kath
Lalaith, now deceased, voted for Roa after Glirdy's revelation

Which brings me to the question: why Lalaith? Sure, she was wise enough and generally not suspected, but would SpM not be a better candidate for eating? He is now more or less proven to be not the Goose nor a Duck.

And maybe it is worth mentioning that Anguirel and I followed Spawn in voting Mormegil instead of Roa_Aoife as proposed by Mithalwen. I know I am innocent and just found the case against Mormegil more convincing than against Roa… and though Anguirel's behaviour might have been a bit questionable in retrospect (i.e. the fierceness and his loyalty to Owl number one), I am hesitant to judge him on this.

I am also a little wary of Nogrod and JennyHallu. Nogrod because he was declared innocent by Mith. I think him likely innocent too, but I just don't wish to forget about him. JennyHallu because she insisted on continuing persecuting Saucy despite the fact that both Owl candidates had declared him innocent.

I am currently not at all suspicious of:

Saucepan Man - obvious reasons
Valier - because of her continued good insights (though I have no idea where she gets them from. If she is the final Duck, she is playing a remarkably cunning game.)
Mormegil - as mentioned above
Lote22 - because of the voting on Day 1

[Anguirel]

On Kath's vote...I don't find it particularly remarkable. Frankly, before we saw Spawn's aspyxiated corpse, to many of us Glirdan looked as Goosish as the current Prime Minister of Great Britain, er, Tol Eressea.

Mith made so much sense she convinced her fiercest enemy, Sauce. I was sure to the point of being coruscated with guilt; I saw her revelation coming, suddenly seeing her as an Owl. She had the hints. By contrast Glirdan was blunt and abrupt, and begged the question-if you're a bleeding Owl, why haven't you been wise yet? Though of course you do get quiet Owls, Glirdan still didn't have much cred when he hooted so suddenly.

So those like Kath, who probably, like me, sympathised with Mith and felt bad, were obviously going to disregard Glirdan's assertion unless they used the Saucine logic that killing Spawn was the only way of being sure.

Well, we've killed Spawn, and I don't know about you Cailin but I'm about as sure as a shantytown...

[Mithalwen]

Before you kill me.... let me speak.

I berated Sapwn for her inconsistent reading of the instructions. Now I suggest you all do.

I was astonished to read the events after my departure and "interested" to see how some people seem to think of me. While in a way to be lynched would give me blissful release from the Kafkaesque nightmare this game has become. It won't help us win.

At first I thought that Glirdan was doing a heroic protection act, was the hawk, trusting my judgement on Spawn and saving me for another nights dream. Then I thought again about Diamond's secret. I know I have been telling the truth. I do not believe Glirdan to be malicious. Therefore either he is lying with good intention or we are both telling the truth.

I am not sure about revelaing my dream. sinceI didn't htink I had a hop of being believed I satisfied my own curiousity and found an innocent. They aren't widely suspected and if you don't give me a chance they are clearly safe today.

My main suspects are now Roa, if she is still with us, Sleepy Ranger and above all
Jenny Hallu. Her attack on me was rather vitriolic. I will be here for about 45 mins. I f anyone shows signs of listening I will come back later. If not I will stay at home and enjoy the long weekend ratehr than struggle in to Bournemouth on the bank holiday.

I am not a crack pot despite my profession.

[Mithalwen]

Sorry I see ROa has left.

Also, may I remind you that a lot of the negativity about me was stirred up by the WEREDUCK, Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant. You all put a lot of faith in her "analyses" although why cluttering up the thread by repeating what anyone could have more easily read for themselves if it weren't there helps I am not sure.



I can't believe I am saying this but I hope the Pan man is around before too long. He at least seems to be thinking outside the box at last.

[Kath]

I'm listening Mith. Stupid as it may sound to everyone I'm still not convinved by Glirdan, even after spawn was revealed to be a Duck. It could have been a lucky guess, it could have been the result of a dream, but I'm willing to hear from both potential Owl's, if only to try and clear this all up!

It's a shame we lost Roa toDay, though I think it helps a little in that she was one of the ones people were unsure over, and so we've managed to avoid a Day arguing over her role.

As to Lalaith, it seems an odd kill given the number of apparently 'proven' innocents around, as well as two possible Seers to choose from. Perhaps it was intended as a safe kill in order to avoid suspicion?

[Mithalwen]

Kath bear in mind, if you work on the hypothesis that I am telling the truth, that the Duck knows I am innocent and a likely candidate to be lynched today. HHe also knows about Glirdan - either he is Glirdan, he thinks Glirdan is the protected owl, he thinks glirdan is a protective hawk. Either way no point in killing either of us last night.

Best option to kill someone who is universally regarded as innocent.

NB He doesn't mean I definitely think the duck is male

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I am not sure about revelaing my dream. sinceI didn't htink I had a hop of being believed I satisfied my own curiousity and found an innocent. They aren't widely suspected and if you don't give me a chance they are clearly safe today.

Later she said she didn't "know" anything about any of her fellow female villagers. This is rather a shame as all my main suspects are currently female. I do hope she didn't waste her dream on me.

[Glirdan]

Ang, I'm going to say this now and for everyone to hear and not care about the consequences: I have absolutely no patience to deal with you or this right now. I had a very bad week all week and now you come and say that I don't know how the game works! This is insulting!! Very insulting! So, if you want to lynch me, be my guest!! I really couldn't care less now that I've seen what you all think. Now, I'm going to go off and cool down because if I stay any longer, I will go balistic. I'll come back later. Good day!!