Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Celuien · 05-16-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

No, sorry, that's wrong. My understanding of the rules was wrong - I went back and checked; wolves do not know who each other are. Gah, should have looked before posting.

Sorry to be disappointing, but:

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Originally Posted by The Prophecy of the Watchers. Book II: Of Wizards and Werewolves

The evil wizard may choose to inform one or more werewolves who one or more other werewolves are; but this is a risky option and should be used with great care, considering the possible consequences.

So the EW can inform the wolves of each other's identities - the wolves are just unable to detect where the curse strikes on their own or to hold nighttime meetings while the EW lives.

Alcarillo · 05-16-2006, 05:31 PM

My son! My son! O phantom, my son! O, phantom, my favorite son! Your mother and I cherished you most of all our two children! *sob* O, phantom! Now Eomer is my only hope for grandchildren! *sob* But you have died honorably, phantom, with a dead werewolf in your hands! *sob*

*sob* I'm off to dig a grave. *sob* I'll be back for my poor son's body later. *sob*

mormegil · 05-16-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alcarillo

My son! My son! O phantom, my son! O, phantom, my favorite son! Your mother and I cherished you most of all our two children! *sob* O, phantom! Now Eomer is my only hope for grandchildren! *sob* But you have died honorably, phantom, with a dead werewolf in your hands! *sob*

*sob* I'm off to dig a grave. *sob* I'll be back for my poor son's body later. *sob*

Cross posted with this and this only raises my suspicion of him. Look at the extreme overreaction.

Firefoot · 05-16-2006, 05:47 PM

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So the EW can inform the wolves of each other's identities - the wolves are just unable to detect where the curse strikes on their own or to hold nighttime meetings while the EW lives.

So I was right in the first place.

Firefoot · 05-16-2006, 05:53 PM

Hm... Interesting comments about Eomer, Morm. Very interesting.

Would someone mind citing the post where phantom asked to be made hunter? I completely missed that.

mormegil · 05-16-2006, 05:45 PM

Well I'm not sure what to say. Well done phantom but you will be missed. The GW was incredibly intelligent to listen to the phantom's advice. As of yesterday he was still screaming innocence to me and when he suggested to the GW to turn him into the hunter I thought it a brilliant strategy. However, he will be sorely missed as he had a good mind for these things and I'm glad he picked Naria because she wasn't on any of my lists...her low post count contributed to that.

Sadly I had an observation that I wanted phantom to analyze before I said anything but I may end up being open about it or I may send it to somebody else who may understand it. The way in which I had it worded would have made sense to the phantom and few, if any others.

Also another observation is that the voting record is not entirely trust worthy, as it has been pointed out by others the wolves probably don't know who each other is and therefore may actually vote for their fellows. I realize that this includes me but it must be said. Now a EW may have voted for Nogrod but likely that would have been towards the end which makes me think... Well anyway we need to determine what type of EW we have on our hands and if it's who I think then they may have voted for Nogrod.

Well looking over the list of who I could ask to think on my observation I cannot see an equal to the phantom so I will defer and be plain. I got consider Eomer of the Rohirrim last night, not in jest as I did the first day but in ernest. There are a handful of items that really stick out to me and worth mentioning. He constantly mentions "if I were the EW" I would do this or convert this person, oddly he's been very accurate. He also has been using the shield icon rather frequently, as we know this can be used to indicate some status. It might be coincidence but perhaps he's trying to communicate something, he wouldn't be so obvious as to use the 'evil' symbols but rather a good symbol. Eomer is a brazen character and wouldn't shirk at the thought of killing off his wolves, looking at the vote for Nogrod indicates he did just that. This is perfectly in sync with the modus operandi of Eomer and would make a good choice for the EW for multiple reasons.

1. He doesn't let pressure get to him and remains calm
2. He is intelligent and can pull off bluffs like few others can
3. He is sensible enough to work on his own and accomplish his means.
4. He's a great bad guy

My other suspicions stand from yesterday though I'm thinking that Naria was not the wolf from last night otherwise the phantom wouldn't have identified her. I still would like to hear from Alcarillo on his extreme defensiveness yesterday when no real suspicion had been presented yet on him.

05-16-2006, 05:45 PM	#6
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Well I'm not sure what to say. Well done phantom but you will be missed. The GW was incredibly intelligent to listen to the phantom's advice. As of yesterday he was still screaming innocence to me and when he suggested to the GW to turn him into the hunter I thought it a brilliant strategy. However, he will be sorely missed as he had a good mind for these things and I'm glad he picked Naria because she wasn't on any of my lists...her low post count contributed to that. Sadly I had an observation that I wanted phantom to analyze before I said anything but I may end up being open about it or I may send it to somebody else who may understand it. The way in which I had it worded would have made sense to the phantom and few, if any others. Also another observation is that the voting record is not entirely trust worthy, as it has been pointed out by others the wolves probably don't know who each other is and therefore may actually vote for their fellows. I realize that this includes me but it must be said. Now a EW may have voted for Nogrod but likely that would have been towards the end which makes me think... Well anyway we need to determine what type of EW we have on our hands and if it's who I think then they may have voted for Nogrod. Well looking over the list of who I could ask to think on my observation I cannot see an equal to the phantom so I will defer and be plain. I got consider Eomer of the Rohirrim last night, not in jest as I did the first day but in ernest. There are a handful of items that really stick out to me and worth mentioning. He constantly mentions "if I were the EW" I would do this or convert this person, oddly he's been very accurate. He also has been using the shield icon rather frequently, as we know this can be used to indicate some status. It might be coincidence but perhaps he's trying to communicate something, he wouldn't be so obvious as to use the 'evil' symbols but rather a good symbol. Eomer is a brazen character and wouldn't shirk at the thought of killing off his wolves, looking at the vote for Nogrod indicates he did just that. This is perfectly in sync with the modus operandi of Eomer and would make a good choice for the EW for multiple reasons. 1. He doesn't let pressure get to him and remains calm 2. He is intelligent and can pull off bluffs like few others can 3. He is sensible enough to work on his own and accomplish his means. 4. He's a great bad guy My other suspicions stand from yesterday though I'm thinking that Naria was not the wolf from last night otherwise the phantom wouldn't have identified her. I still would like to hear from Alcarillo on his extreme defensiveness yesterday when no real suspicion had been presented yet on him. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

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05-16-2006, 05:31 PM	#2
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	My son! My son! O phantom, my son! O, phantom, my favorite son! Your mother and I cherished you most of all our two children! sob O, phantom! Now Eomer is my only hope for grandchildren! sob But you have died honorably, phantom, with a dead werewolf in your hands! sob sob I'm off to dig a grave. sob I'll be back for my poor son's body later. sob

05-16-2006, 05:53 PM	#5
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Hm... Interesting comments about Eomer, Morm. Very interesting. Would someone mind citing the post where phantom asked to be made hunter? I completely missed that.