Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Thin

I think your ideas are a bit far-fetched, Valier. Calm down. He was a hunter already then.

I don't think they're far fetched...So the Phantom let everyone know that he was the Hunter then by posting the arrow and I don't think it far fetched that he very well may have put in an anagram. I think Naria or one of the other wolves picked up on that and voted to kill him.....but I am still not sure.....Phantom did not kill Naria though,

Originally Posted by LMP

The evil team picked the phantom to kill. The good team picked the phantom to be the hunter. Werewolves trying to kill the hunter get killed. So the good team was really lucky.

Ok to me this sounds like Naria picked the Phantom to die last night...but was she the only wolf that voted for him? If so then it goes that she would be the one to die according to LMP's post. But why wouldn't the other wolves vote for Phantom if they saw the arrow? Did they, and Naria was the one chosen to die at random? Maybe she was the only one to see the hint.. I find odd though that the good team was really lucky.......why? because Naria was the only one to vote for him? AAAHHH I am confusing myself, but I see something here.....perhaps all the wolves voted differently and the EW chose to go with Naria's so the Hunter would be killed.Meaning the EW saw the arrow too...

This doesn't clarify much, I know, but I have almost convinced myself that Roa is the EW and if I be wrong this time may I shoot myself in the foot!! I sense it and I will come up with something concrete on her...I'll be back

[JennyHallu]

Val...one more time...

The phantom was not the Hunter until last night.

[Valier]

Ok Ok so what was up with the arrow? I find that odd for the Phantom to just put that in there....Oh well...I thought I had something...I still think I do on the EW choosing Naria's vote so the Hunter would be killed sacraficing a wolf, which I think they did.

[Kath]

Ok Ok so what was up with the arrow?

To show that he was 'shooting off' perhaps? Since that post is all about him not having time to post at that moment.

[Valier]

crossposted ...

So No I think the EW chose to kill The Phantom, by choosing Naria's vote....I think if the wolf votes are spread out the EW gets the final say on who goes do they not?

[Sleepy Ranger]

First off my sincerest apologies for not being very active in this game but random things have kept popping up, bear in mind these have all been un-scheduled disturbances and come Saturday I should be rid of them all. Truly sorry for being a chore.

++Feanor

Possibly because of the previous day.

[Gurthang]

Voting so far:

Azaelia - Eomer (Eomer-1)
Nilp - Azaelia (Eomer -1, Azaelia-1)
Celuien - Alcarillo (Eomer-1, Azaelia-1, Alcarillo-1)
Diamond - Azaelia (Eomer-1, Azaelia-2, Alcarillo-1)
spawn - Azaelia (Eomer-1, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1)
Thin - Eomer (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1)
Sleepy - Fea (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1, Fea-1)
Fea - Roa (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1, Fea-1, Roa-1)


I just remembered why I had been suspicious of Azaelia in the first place toDay. Her vote just seemed like a vote-for-the-likely-bandwagon-victim vote. I'm gonna glance at Alcarillo really fast.

[Cailín]

Well, I am back. Catching up right now. I must say Valier's posts dazzle me.

Celuien is looking less suspicious also, mainly because she seemed to give good analysis and reasons for her vote.

I see your point here, Gurthang, but that is exactly what made me a little suspicious of her in the first place. Why would anyone feel the need to come up with such an elaborate case on Day 1?

I'm advertising bad behaviour here, I'm afraid.

The voting seems to be leaning towards Zali currently -I remain doubtful whether she is innocent or not- and Eomer, whom I'd personally hate to see lynched today. I might cry. The out of the blue vote for Fea is somewhat amusing. I wonder what dear Sleepy is up to.

Roa is someone I had not truly considered yet. Yes, she attacked Nogrod with undeniable passion but that is usual for her, is it not? I do agree with Valier that she might be someone to choose the three wolves we know. Interesting, certainly. I do not think her defense of Loki that strange, however, she actually made valid points.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I have to go and I don't think I'll be back before the end of the day. Because I'm still interested in Roa and I don't have time to ascertain the extent to which any other suspicions of mine are accurate...

++ROA

Edit: crossed with Sleepy.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Jenny

I think A is a SPM list-member, or one from that basic category: intelligent, trusted, moderate. B I am completely unsure of. But this list does rather put the EW as someone rather brash: Roa, Fea, morm, Diamond...there are probably others capable of trying to pull off a Loki/Nogrod/??A?? combo...

I agree with you wholeheartedly and this is why I think Roa may just be the EW and chose Loki/Nogrod/Naria as wolves. Her post that I quoted earlier had a "plan" for the EW and I think she made it happen Oh too well!

[Roa_Aoife]

Fea, I seriously don't know what you're going on about- I didn't defend Loki "tooth and nail" and I gave what I consider to be very good reasons for not believing him to be guilty. Again, if you disagree, please give reasons for doing so. Honestly, at least give a decent reason for being interested in me.

As for Valier... what are you talking about? I couldn't have known the phantom was the hunter yesterDay- he wasn't yet. Secondly, I don't think I went overboard in attacking Nogrod at all. He seemed far too guilty to not be a wolf, and I wanted to make sure the village got one. And I'm guilty because I picked up what the EW could end up doing? I alerted the village to a possible plan of the EW. If I was the actual EW, I would never alert you to something everyone had missed, especially if that was my actual plan. Much better to let you ignore it and keep my plans out of sight.

And please, I agree with morm on the whole narration thing. You seem quite eager to get rid of me Valier. Did I catch your fellow and now you want revenge? You'll have to better than that.

[Valier]

Originally Posted by Roa

And I'm guilty because I picked up what the EW could end up doing? I alerted the village to a possible plan of the EW. If I was the actual EW, I would never alert you to something everyone had missed, especially if that was my actual plan. Much better to let you ignore it and keep my plans out of sight.

Actually Roa I think this is exactly what you would do to cover your EW butt!! I have read about your ancestors as I have mine in the Lore books, and I am sure you are smart, sly and conniving enough to pull it off!

And please, I agree with morm on the whole narration thing. You seem quite eager to get rid of me Valier. Did I catch your fellow and now you want revenge? You'll have to better than that.

I believe I dropped that awhile ago since it did seem unfair for me to use that...and Me? be friends with a wolf? Never!!! That has only happened once in history and I asure you, it is not happening now!

[mormegil]

++Alcarillo

I'm not convinced of Eomer's guilt so I'd like him to be kept around so he can help us out, as I know he can. But Alcarillo I think is most guilty looking to me and has been unhelpful and I feel is hiding being role playing.

Valier you seem more and more to be grasping at straws here. First the narration bit then your continued assertion that the phantom was the hunter at a time when we all know he wasn't. I don't follow it in the least and makes me leary of you too.

[Gurthang]

Well, I need to get gone, so I have to vote now. After reading through Alcarillo's post, he seemed innocent yesterDay, and I can't see enough of a change in him toDay to make me think he was changed last Night. I'm drawn between Diamond and Azaelia.

++Azaelia

I don't think there is enought support yet to lynch Diamond.

Good luck guys.

[Caranlondien]

I'm still considering my vote: Roa, Diamond, or Zali. The first I don't think I've scrutinized closely enough yet to justify voting for her toDay. And, like Gurthang said, I don't think there's enough support to lynch Diamond toDay. So I will probably be voting for Azaelia.

Really, I don't feel very good about voting for anyone. I felt far more confident about Nogrod's guilt than I do about any of my suspects' toDay.

Voting:

1. Azaelia --> Eomer (Eomer-1)
2. Nilp --> Azaelia (Eomer -1, Azaelia-1)
3. Celuien --> Alcarillo (Eomer-1, Azaelia-1, Alcarillo-1)
4. Diamond --> Azaelia (Eomer-1, Azaelia-2, Alcarillo-1)
5. spawn --> Azaelia (Eomer-1, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1)
6. Thin --> Eomer (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1)
7. Sleepy --> Fea (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1, Fea-1)
8. Fea --> Roa (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-1, Fea-1, Roa-1)
9. mormegil --> Alcarillo (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-2, Fea-1, Roa-1)
10. Kath --> Valier (Eomer-2, Azaelia-3, Alcarillo-2, Fea-1, Roa-1, Valier-1)
11. Gurthang --> Azaelia (Eomer-2, Azaelia-4, Alcarillo-2, Fea-1, Roa-1, Valier-1)

[Kath]

Valier, one question. Why would the wolves want to kill the Hunter? I don't think that works. For one thing, phantom only became the Hunter last Night, so all these 'clues' from phantom's posts mean nothing. No wolves would go after the Hunter unless they were sure he'd hunt an innocent. The Hunter is only of use when dead.