Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Feanor of the Peredhil · 05-22-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

What if we simply take Gurthang's list from yesterday and add Eomer back onto it? That makes 4 and includes all Gurthang's choices, right?

I like the plan well enough, except I'm innocent so I'd like to be replaced with somebody else, preferably somebody that's a wolf.

Diamond18 · 05-22-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I like the plan well enough, except I'm innocent so I'd like to be replaced with somebody else, preferably somebody that's a wolf.

Personally, I don't care if I'm at the top of the list and get butchered in bloody fashion, because the moral victory will still be mine.

I guess right about now we should start the "Who would Roa pick?" game. Obviously (well, not so obvious to anyone besides me) she was too concerned with getting me lynched to make me a wolf. I have to go back and look at her analysis of Lalaith to see how she was presenting Lal to the village. Etc. with all the other villagers.

The people we already know she desired are:

Loki
Nogrod (cannon fodder. ouch.)
Naria
Valier
Alcarillo
Nilp
Gurthang (actually, I can't remember if she tried to curse him or if the wolves tried to kill him, but I think it was the former.)

It's a start.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 05-22-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond18

Personally, I don't care if I'm at the top of the list and get butchered in bloody fashion, because the moral victory will still be mine.

True enough, love, true enough. They'll kill me off and then regretfully think "Ah, so she was that much more intelligent [and clever and intuitive and gorgeous and, above all, modest] because she actually picked out the Evil Wizard. It wasn't that she was a bold and bluffing wolf taking shots at her master. All hail and bow down before her." Never mind what I said before. Kill me if you want... your reactions to my death will make me that much cockier.

In any case, I have a few people to look at before I make any real statements and I can't really do more than banter until I get out of work at 9:00. Expect more after that.

littlemanpoet · 05-22-2006, 06:19 PM

Thank you, Kuruharan, for doing as I requested.

Applause, please, from all players (no posts from dead folks though) to Kuruharan and Boromir88 for fine jobs of sub-modding. Their jobs have now ended, and I am forthwith taking over full responsibilities of a classic werewolf game, but reserve the right to copy my sub-mods as much as I like.

Rulings:

1. The werewolves will learn of each others' identities as soon as this Day ends, no sooner, for the Evil Wizard Roa's PM revealings will be all they get until then. The werewolves may PM each other only at Night.

2. The gifteds may know each other only as much as Gurthang the Good Black Wizard allowed while he was alive. They may not PM each other, at all.

3. The Hunter will continue to weild the double power that I instituted at the beginning of this game and ratified in the middle of it. No changes there (I despise a weak Hunter).

4. Every player must from this point onward post to the board every Day. Failure to do so results in a boring suicide or accidental death. Failure to vote is punishable by whatever the offending player's fellow players wish to inflict, whether a lynching or being ignored, or what have you. Failure to vote is NOT reckoned by this Moderator as cause for removal from the Game.

I do believe that about covers it. If my former sub-mods advise me otherwise, I will post revisions as necessary.

Thank you. That is all.

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 05-22-2006, 06:34 PM

Hurray for Gurthang...though I wish he could have helped point us in the right direction today...

It looks like toDay may well be my last in this village, due to LMP's new rule about posting daily--Unless something changes, I may not be on after toDay until about 10PM EST Thursday night. It's pretty much unavoidable. RL suddenly got really crowded. I had a performance that was going to be last week, complete with strenuous rehearsals daily, but then weather decided not to comply, and we wound up moving it to this week. In effect, this means that though I thought I'd be free by last Thursday, I won't really be free again until late this coming Thursday.

Can't say you all will miss me

Expect a post with actual substance later. There's a lot to think about.

Oddwen · 05-22-2006, 07:11 PM

Well, thank you to Gurthang - thankfully we still have the Seer & Hunter.

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Originally Posted by Dimmy

Loki
Nogrod (cannon fodder. ouch.)
Naria
Valier
Alcarillo
Nilp
Gurthang (actually, I can't remember if she tried to curse him or if the wolves tried to kill him, but I think it was the former.)

Roa never tried to curse Gurthang, she discovered him while they were trying to scry/curse the same person.

Nope, I was wrong. The Wolves tried to kill Gurthang on Night 4.

More, perhaps later.

x'd w/ Zali & lmp

mormegil · 05-22-2006, 08:14 PM

It's fairly quiet currently so I figured I would put forward my general impressions of people.

Diamond-- Based on the list we have of whom Roa chose Diamond could fit into that mold. It was obvious also that Roa didn't hesitate to vote for her wolves and she fought frequently with Diamond.

Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant--According to my Lore Books she should be a bit more helpful and insightful. She has had her posts but generally less active than is her wont

Kath--Makes a fearsome wolf or duck but she can be a good asset if she is on our side as well. I don't have the feeling that she's guilty though.

Glirdan--Fairly irrelevant as he will most likely die due to silence so unless he comes around I don't think he's a wolf.

Sleepy Ranger--Would Roa have chosen another silent type? It's rather possible, he is on my watch list and has been for a couple of days but I'd like to hear more from him.

Kitanna--She seems innocent as of late but came through a fairly decent wave of suspicion after that she started contributing. I lean that she is an innocent who had very little time at the start of this affair and now has more time to contribute.

Oddwen--Despite her odd behavior she seems to slip under everybody's radar. It would be a bold move for Roa to chose her but an intelligent one as well as most of us have somewhat forgotten about Oddwen, though her name is spoken from time to time.

Feanor--*sigh* I don't know what to say other than she's the most difficult person to read. Usually I end up saying that we should just lynch her so she's not around to confuse us any more but if she's innocent then we loose one more villager and we are not in great shape currently.

Zali--Another I think could be guilty and would fit the Modus Operandi of Roa. She choose those middle to quiet villagers that were a bit controversial but perhaps she added a talkative one in the mix too...Diamond or Fea but Valier was loud too.

Jenny Hallu--Daughter I would certainly like to hear more from you. I would hate to condemn my daughter to the gallows but I believe that you are innocent but I think I should like to have a look at your posts if I have time.

Lalaith--Has seemed innocent to me for a long time and it hasn't changed. So unless she was converted last night I'm thinking innocent as well.

Eonwe--Really should be dead and probably will be soon along with Glirdan. The only problem is that he is probably innocent and we will loose yet another villager. I implore the quiet ones to step forward and contribute otherwise we stand very little chance of victory.

Eomer--I've always kept a slight suspicion of him. Roa may have thought that he'd make such a horrible wolf choice (Eomer said so himself) that she would do it because who better than the worst pick. Does that make sense? Essentially it's so unlikely that he'd be chosen that in fact he was. But to be honest I really haven't felt much suspicion of him since the first day or two.

What I think is that the quiet villagers really need to help out so they don't have misfortune or suicide to hamper our chances of success. We can beat these wolves but it will take the participation of everybody to do so. Ideally we get a wolf today so there is only 1 kill tonight otherwise our number will be down by 3 innocents instead of 1.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 05-22-2006, 08:23 PM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Roa chose Diamond. Think about it... Di is perfectly strong-willed enough to yell back when Roa starts getting nippy. T'would be a most wonderful bluff...

And morm... I don't try to be difficult... I just am.

Glirdan · 05-22-2006, 08:33 PM

Oh my gosh!! My mother was the evil one!! Holy cow!! This hurts!! I can't believe she killed her own daughters!! My poor sisters...I shall miss you dearly...

However, I am quite pleased that Gurthang took down my mother and her ability to curse us. Mother, I loved you dearly. But now, may you rot in the Void with Morgoth.

Now to find the rotten Wolves who did this to my family...

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What I think is that the quiet villagers really need to help out so they don't have misfortune or suicide to hamper our chances of success. We can beat these wolves but it will take the participation of everybody to do so. Ideally we get a wolf today so there is only 1 kill tonight otherwise our number will be down by 3 innocents instead of 1.(morm)

I will be helping as much as I can toDay. However, tomorrow (as in Wednsday) I will have no way of helping out as I have to leave for the Day. If the Watchers (coughMODGODcough) allows it, I will return the Day after and help find the rest of these fiends.

Glirdan · 05-22-2006, 08:41 PM

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if Roa chose Diamond. Think about it... Di is perfectly strong-willed enough to yell back when Roa starts getting nippy. T'would be a most wonderful bluff...(Fea)

You know, this little plot wouldn't surprise me. I had no idea how kiniving my mother could be and who knows, this could have been another one of her dark little secrets. My poor father...what will he say when he finds out about mother?

Anyway, as I was saying...What was I saying? Oh! Right. Diamond's family and my family are (or, in my family's case, were) the largest families in this here village. It wouldn't surprise me if mother decided to take Diamond as one of her victims because Diamond would have enough sway over those memebers in her family which is a great population of this village. Think about it.

05-22-2006, 06:19 PM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Directives Thank you, Kuruharan, for doing as I requested. Applause, please, from all players (no posts from dead folks though) to Kuruharan and Boromir88 for fine jobs of sub-modding. Their jobs have now ended, and I am forthwith taking over full responsibilities of a classic werewolf game, but reserve the right to copy my sub-mods as much as I like. Rulings: 1. The werewolves will learn of each others' identities as soon as this Day ends, no sooner, for the Evil Wizard Roa's PM revealings will be all they get until then. The werewolves may PM each other only at Night. 2. The gifteds may know each other only as much as Gurthang the Good Black Wizard allowed while he was alive. They may not PM each other, at all. 3. The Hunter will continue to weild the double power that I instituted at the beginning of this game and ratified in the middle of it. No changes there (I despise a weak Hunter). 4. Every player must from this point onward post to the board every Day. Failure to do so results in a boring suicide or accidental death. Failure to vote is punishable by whatever the offending player's fellow players wish to inflict, whether a lynching or being ignored, or what have you. Failure to vote is NOT reckoned by this Moderator as cause for removal from the Game. I do believe that about covers it. If my former sub-mods advise me otherwise, I will post revisions as necessary. Thank you. That is all.

05-22-2006, 06:34 PM	#5
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	Hurray for Gurthang...though I wish he could have helped point us in the right direction today... It looks like toDay may well be my last in this village, due to LMP's new rule about posting daily--Unless something changes, I may not be on after toDay until about 10PM EST Thursday night. It's pretty much unavoidable. RL suddenly got really crowded. I had a performance that was going to be last week, complete with strenuous rehearsals daily, but then weather decided not to comply, and we wound up moving it to this week. In effect, this means that though I thought I'd be free by last Thursday, I won't really be free again until late this coming Thursday. Can't say you all will miss me Expect a post with actual substance later. There's a lot to think about. __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

05-22-2006, 08:14 PM	#7
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	It's fairly quiet currently so I figured I would put forward my general impressions of people. Diamond-- Based on the list we have of whom Roa chose Diamond could fit into that mold. It was obvious also that Roa didn't hesitate to vote for her wolves and she fought frequently with Diamond. Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant--According to my Lore Books she should be a bit more helpful and insightful. She has had her posts but generally less active than is her wont Kath--Makes a fearsome wolf or duck but she can be a good asset if she is on our side as well. I don't have the feeling that she's guilty though. Glirdan--Fairly irrelevant as he will most likely die due to silence so unless he comes around I don't think he's a wolf. Sleepy Ranger--Would Roa have chosen another silent type? It's rather possible, he is on my watch list and has been for a couple of days but I'd like to hear more from him. Kitanna--She seems innocent as of late but came through a fairly decent wave of suspicion after that she started contributing. I lean that she is an innocent who had very little time at the start of this affair and now has more time to contribute. Oddwen--Despite her odd behavior she seems to slip under everybody's radar. It would be a bold move for Roa to chose her but an intelligent one as well as most of us have somewhat forgotten about Oddwen, though her name is spoken from time to time. Feanor--sigh I don't know what to say other than she's the most difficult person to read. Usually I end up saying that we should just lynch her so she's not around to confuse us any more but if she's innocent then we loose one more villager and we are not in great shape currently. Zali--Another I think could be guilty and would fit the Modus Operandi of Roa. She choose those middle to quiet villagers that were a bit controversial but perhaps she added a talkative one in the mix too...Diamond or Fea but Valier was loud too. Jenny Hallu--Daughter I would certainly like to hear more from you. I would hate to condemn my daughter to the gallows but I believe that you are innocent but I think I should like to have a look at your posts if I have time. Lalaith--Has seemed innocent to me for a long time and it hasn't changed. So unless she was converted last night I'm thinking innocent as well. Eonwe--Really should be dead and probably will be soon along with Glirdan. The only problem is that he is probably innocent and we will loose yet another villager. I implore the quiet ones to step forward and contribute otherwise we stand very little chance of victory. Eomer--I've always kept a slight suspicion of him. Roa may have thought that he'd make such a horrible wolf choice (Eomer said so himself) that she would do it because who better than the worst pick. Does that make sense? Essentially it's so unlikely that he'd be chosen that in fact he was. But to be honest I really haven't felt much suspicion of him since the first day or two. What I think is that the quiet villagers really need to help out so they don't have misfortune or suicide to hamper our chances of success. We can beat these wolves but it will take the participation of everybody to do so. Ideally we get a wolf today so there is only 1 kill tonight otherwise our number will be down by 3 innocents instead of 1. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

05-22-2006, 08:23 PM	#8
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I wouldn't be at all surprised if Roa chose Diamond. Think about it... Di is perfectly strong-willed enough to yell back when Roa starts getting nippy. T'would be a most wonderful bluff... And morm... I don't try to be difficult... I just am. __________________ peace

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