Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXI: Dueling Wizards Werewolf

[Diamond18]

What, I don't get to reply to anything, I don't get to vote, the game is just over? 5 hours early!? Bah.

[Glirdan]

Curses!! I knew it all along!!! And that's why we lynch Eomer ealier in the game.

[Diamond18]

Yeah, well, curse my habit of sleeping during the day. I got up, read all these posts, and just about screamed when I saw everyone voting for Lalaith. No one ever paid attention to my suspicions against her earlier, but the minute Eomer goes after her an instant bandwaggon forms? Evil, evil, bad things going on. I should have reacted quicker last night to Jenny's defense of Eomer... it was horribly fishy but did Diamond figure it out then, noooo. Not until Kitanna started jumping on board too, but of course by then it was too late.

Actually, what I should have done was try to kill Eomer as messily as possible the instant he said he thought I was innocent. I didn't find it wrong enough because I was innocent. But anyone with half a brain should have been going, "How is he so sure I'm innocent? I'm the only one who besides the wolves who actually knows this."

[Firefoot]

Actually, what I should have done was try to kill Eomer as messily as possible the instant he said he thought I was innocent. I didn't find it wrong enough because I was innocent. But anyone with half a brain should have been going, "How is he so sure I'm innocent? I'm the only one who besides the wolves who actually knows this."

Yeah, that happens to me a lot...

I told you all to kill Eomer... so maybe he wasn't the EW, but you still should have killed him.

[Glirdan]

Of coures you were right Firefoot. I don't know why I didn't see things earlier. Mind you, he was bugging me for sometime after I came back last week. There was just something not right. I thought that by now he would have been dead, but noooo.

[mormegil]

For those wondering I have been evil since the second day. I was the first wolf selected after the three. And you thought I was only converted the last night! What a great game. I have more to say later but it was great working with Roa, I knew her identity, I believe I was the only one. I wish I had made it victoriously to the end but well done Jenny my Daughter, Eomer my nemisis and Kitanna my friend.

Spawn a well chosen kill. She did chose me even though I would have died anyway.

[Diamond18]

Originally Posted by mormegil

For those wondering I have been evil since the second day. I was the first wolf selected after the three. And you thought I was only converted the last night!

I didn't. Well, actually, I didn't really it that much thought, I just knew I'd wanted you dead for a long time but couldn't manage any sort of decent argument for it. The one thing I felt I could have really used against you was the posts you made the last day you were alive, but Spawn took care of you before that was needed.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by mormegil

For those wondering I have been evil since the second day. I was the first wolf selected after the three. And you thought I was only converted the last night! What a great game. I have more to say later but it was great working with Roa, I knew her identity, I believe I was the only one. I wish I had made it victoriously to the end but well done Jenny my Daughter, Eomer my nemisis and Kitanna my friend.

I have been wondering when you turned. Had a feeling it was early, though. Like Nilp, I thought you were the Good Wizard, even going so far as to think I spotted a code in one of your posts after the phantom died (as he'd suggested the GW should do). And replied in kind to the 'code.' That shows where overthinking does. At that point, I'd noticed that you and Roa seemed very similar in what kinds of things you were saying and thought she was your Seer.

Congratulations to the victorious evil team!

And great narrations, LMP. And a round of applause to the submods.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by mormegil

For those wondering I have been evil since the second day. I was the first wolf selected after the three. And you thought I was only converted the last night!

Well, that's because I didn't realize you were a wolf until that last Day I was alive.

Originally Posted by mormegil, post #851

Gurthang if you come back will you give us another list of doom so we can have one last untainted list? It seems to have been very effective so far and I think 4 is a good number.

When I read that, the only thing I thought was: "Oh, Crap! morm's a wolf!" Hearing that request for another list would have sounded completely innocent coming from anyone else, but you.... you're too calculating and smart to want the list. I was so sure that you were trying to narrow down the 'possibly gifted' list that I would have done this:

Originally Posted by nobody, but it would have been me

Here's your list:

++mormegil

Kill 'em.

Unfortunately, Kuru posted the Wizard Battle before I could say anything about it. Luckily, spawn got you that Night.

Speaking of which... was it the family thing that tipped you wolves off to my gifteds? Or was it just a lucky guess? Say what you will about me choosing my family, but the only gifteds that survived for longer than the Night they were made were spawn, Kath, and Nilp. Caran and the phantom both died the Night I gifted them.

I think that me and my family should win, just because we were all on the same side for the whole game.

[Caranlondien]

Ack! I protected a werewolf! Well, I was suspicious of him, but I thought if he were innocent Eomer would be a likely wolf kill that night... [/attempt to salvage my ego]

Congratulations to you wolves (and to the EW), though now I will never trust my former orcish companions Roa and Jenny. You two are just plain evil!

And excellently modded, LMP! This was a great game, and I'd like to see another Dueling Wizards. I hope you'll be modding again - I loved the narrations!

[Diamond18]

I've been conditioned over my past three games (not to mention Roa's shenaigans in this one) for the bad'uns to attack me and try to get me lynched. I always knew there's the possibility of them trying to get on my good side, but I didn't see it until too late.

Actually, if I'm being totally honest, this is what made me suspicious of Eomer, more so than the Oddwen vote and the Lalaith attack:

Originally Posted by LMP

"Diamond is innocent," Eomer declared.

...

"I think Eomer's innocent," Diamond said, batting her eyelashes at him gratefully. Then resuming her twenty-years-his-senior dignity she said, "Ergo, I don't want him to die. I vote Oddwen."

Paul, Paul, Paulio -- I knew we weren't supposed to be looking for hints in the narrative, and this wasn't intentional I am sure -- but when I read this I couldn't shake the thought from my mind that maybe I was supposed to be grateful to Eomer and lay off him because he'd voiced confidence in my innocence. Especially since I'd never mentioned being grateful in my posts, but this grateful attitude somehow appeared in your portrayal of my vote in the narration. That really wasn't it -- I just have not played with Eomer before and way underestimated his talent for feeling fair and being foul. Lalaith kept saying it but my mind was clouded with my own suspicions of her, so I kept doubting everything she said, even when it made sense. Sorry, Lal.

I also kept trying to put the narration out of my mind. Even if it was a slip on LMP's part it didn't seem quite fair to be using that. So I avoided mentioning it in my post where I voiced suspicions about being used as a puppet, and kept trying to talk myself out of thinking that way. Well, from now on I will fully take advantage of such slips, and I don't care if the mod doesn't like it.

Grr. Anyway, I'm still kicking myself and obsessing over this because I saw it all so clearly reading the posts today, then just as it all came together in my head, everyone was voting for Lalaith and LMP declared the game over and I didn't even get a chance to do anything. Argh. (Not that it would have mattered, Zali's vote was the one innocent they needed and without Fea around there was no one else to vote for Eomer, but still.)

[Glirdan]

The first indication I got of him being evil was actually back Day 6 (I think it was Day 6, or was it 7? ) when he said his little bit about Lmp changing his mind about the quiet ones (aka, the non-voters/posters). Something about that post didn't sit right with me and hasn't ever since. Grrr!! I wish I would have lived!! That way, I could have been yelling "Lynch him! Lynch him!" at everyone instead of at the computer screen.

[Diamond18]

The first indication I got of him being evil was actually back Day 6 (I think it was Day 6, or was it 7? ) when he said his little bit about Lmp changing his mind about the quiet ones (aka, the non-voters/posters).

If I had been smart I would have picked up on that. But actually, since I had just modded a game I could see the conundrum of being faced with killing your wolves for missing a day, and so I could see his point. I didn't actually think you were a wolf, though I thought Zali might be, but I still thought there wasn't anything wrong with Eomer getting that idea. Oh well, just another item to add to the list of the many things I did wrong this game. That's the problem, ain't it, the wolves were all such good players that even when they were suspected people just couldn't come up with lynch cases that other people would get behind. It's sadly true that the votes for Jenny came across as random and unsubstantiated, which only played into her hands. Tch.

Anyway, I might as well say it again, Lalaith you got everything right, so sorry I kept doubting you till it was too late.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Ten hours I spent online on my first two DAYs as Seer (sneaking in while working), and what does it get me?

Nothing. I miss the most important part of a game.

Anybody want to lend me enough to buy a plane ticket to a better timezone? Like, Finland, for example?

[Lhunardawen]

Bah! How long 'til you learn that Eomer must be killed DAY ONE?

So sorry I had to drop out, but it all worked for the best, RL-wise. Thanks for my suicide, Elempi.

Now everyone, back to work!

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Anybody want to lend me enough to buy a plane ticket to a better timezone? Like, Finland, for example?

Maybe we could take a collection for you?

I lived to play in this game though I was rather surprised to be killed by the wolves. I usually tend to survive to the end, or die by lynching.

I was also quite surprised of so many people stating that I wouldn't be a good pick for the EW because I usually gather so much suspicion early. I've never noticed that! I'm always suspected a bit, but usually it's a clear minority that suspects me. In the mid-game I tend to get nearöy lynched, but am really lynched quite seldom.

And I really was so frustrated with Roa all the time I was alive. Positively frustrated; she didn't make me angry or anything like that. I continuosly suspected her, but as I first thought she is very probably the seer or the GW ( ) and then later when she disappeared from Gurthang's list I thought she was the new hunter. So, I never got to voice my suspicions, since there was always some suspicion of her and I feared that if I added to it, she'd be lynched. Thinking about it now, that would have been only a good thing to do...

Originally Posted by LMP

Night Five
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hunter: (Spawn): Nilpaurion

I can very well see spawn's reasoning here, but... Am I the only one who finds this amusing?