Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXII: Hic Monstrae Trucidant

[Caranlondien]

And now I feel more inclined to trust TGWBS...

See, this is why you shouldn't put all your faith in me

[Caranlondien]

Originally Posted by TGWBS

So yes, I have faith in your wolfspotting abilities. I think the best course of action is for Caran to make a shortlist of three or four people and everybody to vote for one of them. This preserves some autonomy whilst narrowing the autonomy of the wolves.

Hmm... well when a certain wizard did that in another village, it was because he actually had some knowledge of other innocents, and wanted to keep the village from lynching them. I know nothing. I shan't make a shortlist that everybody must vote from.

What I will do is provide you with a list of suspects from an objective opinion. Vote as you wish, ignoring my list if you so choose. I don't think that merely voting for someone not on my list should be taken as a wolvish-act; rather, I think that, as usual, reasoning and previous suspicions should be taken into account. Take this as objective advice, not as a List of Doom (I believe Gurthang has a copyright on that term )

morm
TGWBS
Feanor
Durelin

[Findëasëa]

I'm happy to trust Caran because 3/4 of her suspects seem suspicious to me. That seems accurate enough for me. Her objective outlook should be one we all take complete advantage of while she's here. Even if it did serve as a hiding place for wolves, it would only be for the one day she's here.

So yes, I have faith in your wolfspotting abilities. I think the best course of action is for Caran to make a shortlist of three or four people and everybody to vote for one of them. This preserves some autonomy whilst narrowing the autonomy of the wolves.

I think this is a bad idea. Caran has already posted lists of who she finds suspicious and why. How are we to be assured that this is not a ploy from the wolves to keep themselves out of trouble for another day? I do feel that Caran is intelligent, but I am looking for completely different qualities in people than she is. I have voiced my belief of the moderate wolf being a likely one. Two of the people in her bottom four are there because Caran finds then ‘unreadable.’ I think that the line between personality and the actions of a bold wolf is not well defined here. The actions they have been called suspicious for so far seem to be mostly related to their personalities and posting styles. I want to wait for a stronger justification than the fact that their personalities may hide a bold wolf. Her arguments against Tom were flawed, and I find him likely innocent. As far as Morm goes, I am a bit suspicious, but not enough at this point to warrant a vote.

We should listen to Caran, but I don't think that blind following is wise.

X- posted with Caran, her suggestion idea seems much more reasonable than TGWBS's plan

[Caranlondien]

Originally Posted by Fin

I have voiced my belief of the moderate wolf being a likely one.

Isn't that more of a personality-based criterion than my "unreadable"-based suspicions? I think that a wolf want to be unreadable. That's why I find unreadable people suspicious. I've never played with Durelin before, so I don't know if this is her typical behavior. Feanor I know looks suspicious even when she isn't guilty, but I think in this game particularly, her behavior has been cryptic at best. As for Tom, I agreed with your point and removed him from my suspicion list for now.

[Nogrod]

Schools out for Summer!

And so much has been said again...

I have scrolled the thread for toDay and will have to think about a host of ideas brought forwards here.

Just one thing to begin with, one that kind of jumps out from the recent discussion.

tgwbs confuses me more all the time, although he seems to be ever more helpful. I disagree with his idea of Caran giving us a list outsdide of which we should not vote. She probably is innocent, but she makes mistakes and has blind spots, as we all do. And surely: if we give all the decisions on who to vote for Caran, the wolves would be very fast starting to use that fact to their advantage (making precision attacks, rousing specific suspicions to influence Caran and her list).

His eagerness to show his innocence (by overstressing the importance of the revealed Hunter) and the suggestion for us all vote on the basis of the list where he (most probably) would not be, seem quite suspicious to me.

EDIT: X-posted with Morm & Mith

[Cailín]

Fin & Tom are looking more suspicious by the minute.

I still trust TGWBS. Mormegil seems innocent also. I believe Mith since her posts this morning. I also have no reason to suspect Nogrod at the moment. Caranlondien is our Hunter.

Coming to the maybes. Lhuna seems quiet loveable at the moment. I have no reason to suspect her. Since this morning, my faith in Elempi has grown also, largely because the opinion of others.

Feanor of the Peredhil
Celuien
Thinlómien
Tom
Findëasëa
Durelin

Though I cannot be a 100% sure, I'm pretty certain half of these people are wolvish. I'm not quite sure about Caranlondien's list, but as my only actually known innocent I trust her above all others. But -and oh, am I selfish- I trust my own judgement even more.