Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Findëasëa · 06-21-2006, 01:01 PM

I see Lalaith’s point now. Since the lovers are working for their own benefit foremost, they may be less subtle when it comes to voting in order to protect their lover’s life and their own. It still seems to me that both of their second loyalties lay with the wolves, however, so this may still cloud the clarity of the voting record. I didn’t find much to go on that would warrant a strong vote for anyone, most of the discussion today was, although quite amusing, altogether inconclusive. I find Glirdan’s actions a bit suspicious, but I am not sure that a wolf would risk being so bold. He stayed in character in his posts and made a nonsense vote. I would imagine that a werewolf might be a bit more wary of not saying anything of value. I do not want to rule him out as suspect, but I don’t want to vote for him today.

Holbytlass · 06-21-2006, 01:15 PM

Morm-->Glirdan
Lhuna-->Eomer
Rhune-->Eomer
Glirdan-->Kath
Nilp-->Nilp
Engels-->Eomer
Durelin-->Nilp
Diamond-->Eomer
Anguirel-->Nilp
Lalaith-->Form
Caran-->JennyHallu
Firefoot-->Nilp
Spm-->Holby

Glirdan-1, Kath-1, Eomer-4, Nilp-4, Form 1, JennyHallu-1, Holby-1

I won't be back so will have to vote now. The voting for Eomer is spite to me for past grievances so I will break the tie and vote

++Nilp

Duerlin's playing with Nilp is one thing but her actual vote for him is another. While I would rather vote Durelin, I;m not going to add another name to the list. I think there is something going on between them. I know I'll be in the hotseat tomorrow for breaking the tye but I won't sit here and watch a person go down just for past greivances.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-21-2006, 01:21 PM

Mormegil for Glirdan. Says that his posting style is annoying. Nothing to go on at that point, I suppose. As has been pointed out though, Glirdan is a likely vote-getter in any case.

Lhuna for Eomer. Lhuna always votes for me. It seems quite unfair, especially as I had not posted at that point.

Rune for Eomer. The succeeding post to Lhuna's vote. May be telling.

Glirdan for Kath. For no reason. Throwing his vote away, perhaps to seem random and individual.

Nilp for Nilp. He's not a wolf because he knows that the village will leap on a Nilp-bandwagon, because it's so easy for the village to do that.

TGWBS for Eomer. In character. Somewhat dangerous to do this, though, because of the building momentum.

Durelin for Nilp. A nice, easy vote.

Diamond for Eomer. Petty, childish and envious.

Anguirel for Nilp. Explicitly wants to save me. This is fair as I will probably be more useful than The Suicidal One.

Lalaith for Formendacil. She might suspect him because of his lazy attitude to the first Day.

Caranlondien for Jenny. Apparently because she would make a good wolf.

Firefoot for Nilp. Exasperated vote.

SPM for Holby. Probably because of these classic recap posts Holby is fond of.

Holby for Nilp. Usual reasons.

So what do I think of the votes so far? The Eomer-bandwagon is bitter, twisted, and very possibly contains a couple of dark, furry secrets. Out of the Eomer-voters, I am inclined to say that Diamond is most likely to be innocent, because she was always going to vote for me anyway (due to the last game).

The Nilp-bandwagon is more justified. After all, he did vote for himself. Still an easy place to hide, though.

Of the others, Glirdan's for Kath and Caran's for Jenny seem the most suspicious to me.

Glirdan or Caran, Glirdan and Caran. Hmm...

Formendacil · 06-21-2006, 01:35 PM

Okay, I'd really like to say that the reason I've been so quiet today has been Day 1 antipathy... but someone (*mutters about the evil that is plumber*) cut our phone line, and I'm writing this from the public library...

If things go poorly, I may be a virtual Alcarillo for the next couple (or more) days. If they go well, I'll be back to normal for Day 2- including a bit more verbose.

Bit of a pity since this Day 1 actually looks somewhat fun... useless for actually lynching a wolf at this time, of course (unless by blind luck or stupidity on the lupine part, as I've said many a time)- but fun all the same. The whole pirates/ninja debate is most amusing, and it's good to see Nilp on form again. The good Catholic in me hates to see a noble tradition die.

Now, this day being nearer its end than its beginning, and being the good voting citizen that I am, now is a good time to vote.

++ Lalaith

Because she voted for me.

Yes, it's incriminating.

It's also Day 1.

'tis the best evidence I've got... she's the only person I know who's voting for a known innocent.

JennyHallu · 06-21-2006, 01:47 PM

Terribly suspicious, Form, that you both praise Nilp and do nothing to help him. Now today's kill shall be either Eomer or Nilp with no way out. Village! You're making a terrible mistake!

Eomer's being lynched out of spite, and Nilp in the biggest example of misapplied logic I've seen today! (And I work for the Army...so that's saying something) How often does Nilp self-vote? Every time! How often is he a wolf? No more than anyone else!

*sigh* I'm going to go put a claim in on the Captain's cabin. Weslamond, guard the door, will you?

Findëasëa · 06-21-2006, 01:49 PM

I don’t think that Holby is particularly guilty looking. Her approach today was not one that I believe that a wolf would take. She just seemed honest to me. I do not think that Nilp or Eomer have acted guilty either, as such, I don’t feel that I can vote for any of these people. Of all of the people I looked at, I feel that Lalaith seemed to best fit the pattern of behavior that I would expect from a wolf on day one. She was helpful and managed to maintain a presence. I am not sure about her, but as of yet she is my best suspect.

++Lalaith

Formendacil · 06-21-2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennyHallu

Terribly suspicious, Form, that you both praise Nilp and do nothing to help him. Now today's kill shall be either Eomer or Nilp with no way out. Village! You're making a terrible mistake!

It's Day 1.

I take that as a justification to be inconsistent.

And if Nilp wants to go... who am I to argue with him? He may even be telling the truth.

JennyHallu · 06-21-2006, 01:58 PM

Day 1 is the dumbest excuse for carelessness ever. Gah! Day 1s can be productive if you use them productively and don't just tralalalally your way into a whirlpool.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-21-2006, 02:21 PM

Still another four votes to come. Because no-one seems likely to vote for an Eomer-voter yet (although TGWBS and especially Rune are looking suspicious to me) I suggest that we all vote off Glirdan. He already has a vote from Morm.

His vote for Kath seems far too safe. He can argue that it's a random vote; and it wasn't too likely that a Kath-bandwagon would start up. Case in point: If I'm lynched, everyone looks accusingly at Lhuna, who started the Eomer-bandwagon. Lhuna knew that she was taking a big risk in voting for me (because of the likely bandwagon) and that's why I think her probably innocent, now.

Glirdan is trying to avoid a pitfall, and, while an innocent could do this, it seems pretty sneaky to me.

06-21-2006, 01:15 PM	#2
Holbytlass Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Party Tree Posts: 1,042	Morm-->Glirdan Lhuna-->Eomer Rhune-->Eomer Glirdan-->Kath Nilp-->Nilp Engels-->Eomer Durelin-->Nilp Diamond-->Eomer Anguirel-->Nilp Lalaith-->Form Caran-->JennyHallu Firefoot-->Nilp Spm-->Holby Glirdan-1, Kath-1, Eomer-4, Nilp-4, Form 1, JennyHallu-1, Holby-1 I won't be back so will have to vote now. The voting for Eomer is spite to me for past grievances so I will break the tie and vote ++Nilp Duerlin's playing with Nilp is one thing but her actual vote for him is another. While I would rather vote Durelin, I;m not going to add another name to the list. I think there is something going on between them. I know I'll be in the hotseat tomorrow for breaking the tye but I won't sit here and watch a person go down just for past greivances. __________________ Holby is an actual flesh-and-blood person, right? Not, say a sock-puppet of Nilp’s, by any chance? ~Nerwen, WWCIII

06-21-2006, 01:21 PM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Votes so far Mormegil for Glirdan. Says that his posting style is annoying. Nothing to go on at that point, I suppose. As has been pointed out though, Glirdan is a likely vote-getter in any case. Lhuna for Eomer. Lhuna always votes for me. It seems quite unfair, especially as I had not posted at that point. Rune for Eomer. The succeeding post to Lhuna's vote. May be telling. Glirdan for Kath. For no reason. Throwing his vote away, perhaps to seem random and individual. Nilp for Nilp. He's not a wolf because he knows that the village will leap on a Nilp-bandwagon, because it's so easy for the village to do that. TGWBS for Eomer. In character. Somewhat dangerous to do this, though, because of the building momentum. Durelin for Nilp. A nice, easy vote. Diamond for Eomer. Petty, childish and envious. Anguirel for Nilp. Explicitly wants to save me. This is fair as I will probably be more useful than The Suicidal One. Lalaith for Formendacil. She might suspect him because of his lazy attitude to the first Day. Caranlondien for Jenny. Apparently because she would make a good wolf. Firefoot for Nilp. Exasperated vote. SPM for Holby. Probably because of these classic recap posts Holby is fond of. Holby for Nilp. Usual reasons. So what do I think of the votes so far? The Eomer-bandwagon is bitter, twisted, and very possibly contains a couple of dark, furry secrets. Out of the Eomer-voters, I am inclined to say that Diamond is most likely to be innocent, because she was always going to vote for me anyway (due to the last game). The Nilp-bandwagon is more justified. After all, he did vote for himself. Still an easy place to hide, though. Of the others, Glirdan's for Kath and Caran's for Jenny seem the most suspicious to me. Glirdan or Caran, Glirdan and Caran. Hmm... __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond Last edited by Eomer of the Rohirrim; 06-21-2006 at 01:23 PM. Reason: Typed Kath instead of Caran on bottom line.

06-21-2006, 01:35 PM	#4
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Okay, I'd really like to say that the reason I've been so quiet today has been Day 1 antipathy... but someone (mutters about the evil that is plumber) cut our phone line, and I'm writing this from the public library... If things go poorly, I may be a virtual Alcarillo for the next couple (or more) days. If they go well, I'll be back to normal for Day 2- including a bit more verbose. Bit of a pity since this Day 1 actually looks somewhat fun... useless for actually lynching a wolf at this time, of course (unless by blind luck or stupidity on the lupine part, as I've said many a time)- but fun all the same. The whole pirates/ninja debate is most amusing, and it's good to see Nilp on form again. The good Catholic in me hates to see a noble tradition die. Now, this day being nearer its end than its beginning, and being the good voting citizen that I am, now is a good time to vote. ++ Lalaith Because she voted for me. Yes, it's incriminating. It's also Day 1. 'tis the best evidence I've got... she's the only person I know who's voting for a known innocent. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

06-21-2006, 01:47 PM	#5
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Terribly suspicious, Form, that you both praise Nilp and do nothing to help him. Now today's kill shall be either Eomer or Nilp with no way out. Village! You're making a terrible mistake! Eomer's being lynched out of spite, and Nilp in the biggest example of misapplied logic I've seen today! (And I work for the Army...so that's saying something) How often does Nilp self-vote? Every time! How often is he a wolf? No more than anyone else! sigh I'm going to go put a claim in on the Captain's cabin. Weslamond, guard the door, will you? __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

06-21-2006, 01:58 PM	#8
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	Day 1 is the dumbest excuse for carelessness ever. Gah! Day 1s can be productive if you use them productively and don't just tralalalally your way into a whirlpool. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles!

06-21-2006, 01:01 PM	#1
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	I see Lalaith’s point now. Since the lovers are working for their own benefit foremost, they may be less subtle when it comes to voting in order to protect their lover’s life and their own. It still seems to me that both of their second loyalties lay with the wolves, however, so this may still cloud the clarity of the voting record. I didn’t find much to go on that would warrant a strong vote for anyone, most of the discussion today was, although quite amusing, altogether inconclusive. I find Glirdan’s actions a bit suspicious, but I am not sure that a wolf would risk being so bold. He stayed in character in his posts and made a nonsense vote. I would imagine that a werewolf might be a bit more wary of not saying anything of value. I do not want to rule him out as suspect, but I don’t want to vote for him today.

06-21-2006, 01:49 PM	#6
Findëasëa Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	I don’t think that Holby is particularly guilty looking. Her approach today was not one that I believe that a wolf would take. She just seemed honest to me. I do not think that Nilp or Eomer have acted guilty either, as such, I don’t feel that I can vote for any of these people. Of all of the people I looked at, I feel that Lalaith seemed to best fit the pattern of behavior that I would expect from a wolf on day one. She was helpful and managed to maintain a presence. I am not sure about her, but as of yet she is my best suspect. ++Lalaith

06-21-2006, 02:21 PM	#9
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Still another four votes to come. Because no-one seems likely to vote for an Eomer-voter yet (although TGWBS and especially Rune are looking suspicious to me) I suggest that we all vote off Glirdan. He already has a vote from Morm. His vote for Kath seems far too safe. He can argue that it's a random vote; and it wasn't too likely that a Kath-bandwagon would start up. Case in point: If I'm lynched, everyone looks accusingly at Lhuna, who started the Eomer-bandwagon. Lhuna knew that she was taking a big risk in voting for me (because of the likely bandwagon) and that's why I think her probably innocent, now. Glirdan is trying to avoid a pitfall, and, while an innocent could do this, it seems pretty sneaky to me. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

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