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06-22-2006, 01:15 PM
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The Pearl, The Lily Maid
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If Farmer A is owner of the land, then in my opinion it doesn't matter what he does with it. If I own a plot of land and do nothing with it, then it is still wrong for my neighbor to plant a field there. It isn't his. Farmer B doesn't dispute the land isn't his, nor does he claim he didn't know who the owner is, just claims he is entitled to it because Farmer A isn't using it. In my opinion, it doesn't matter who is using it or isn't.
If Farmer B planted the land of Farmer A, knowing the land wasn't his, it isn't Farmer A's responsibility to give Farmer B permission. He has no obligation to give Farmer B permission, or to say anything to Farmer B before bringing the matter up in court. That's just my take on the situation: if Farmer A owns the land, he can do as he please with it, and isn't obligated legally to plant it. If Eodwine owns the land, perhaps it is a different story.
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06-22-2006, 01:34 PM
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I've been confused with your argumentativeness up to this point, but now I understand entirely where you're coming from. No, the land does not belong to him. It is Eodwine's and he grants the property to these different free holders on the condition that they use it to the best of it's ability. That is why they pay rent to the Eorl. They pay him for the use of his land. If they do not use the land to the best of their abilities, then they don't get to use it because it's going to waste and is not raising food when it could. That is what I understand the matter to be. If that's not what's happening, then it appears I am confused and mistaken as well. But that the understanding that I've been writing with. -- Folwren
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06-22-2006, 01:56 PM
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The Pearl, The Lily Maid
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My argument then, would still be with renters' rights. (I rent, by the way...)
If the man is not using the field, the other Farmer should have petitioned Eodwine for use of the land before planting, not planted and then asked, no matter the schedule of the crop. He is not paying the rent on the field, so he shouldn't get to use it. And are we sure the folks are renting? Are there freeholders on any of Eodwine's jurisdiction?
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06-22-2006, 02:00 PM
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Messenger of Hope
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And I do not know who are free holders and who are not. -- Folwren
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06-22-2006, 03:14 PM
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Been crossposting, I see....
To concur with Folwren, and to restate in a slightly different manner my previous point, we are dealing with a more feudal system of ownership than of American West. So obviously, modern and American precedent should be taken with a grain of salt- though there is applicability.
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