Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil

[Lalaith]

On this:

Well I somewhat agree with you, but it is interesting to note that Jenny changes her suspicion from Formen, Gurthang and Firefoot to a whole list of people on which Gurthang and Firefoot are not. Yet again another piece to a probably specious puzzle but it makes me further suspect those two.

Do you mean that Gurthang and Firefoot thought Jenny was the Hunter and thought it was safe to kill her?

[Firefoot]

Firefoot's seconding-with scarcely any reasoning

Lalaith was on my suspicions list all Day. During my analysis, she looked like one of the most guilty to me (and post 192, it's her and Formen who are in my "suspicious" category).

Okay, remember how I said I didn't know how much I was going to be around? I don't know now if I'm going to be back before deadline (I thought I would have more time than this now), so I have to vote:

++Durelin

A second look at her posts is making me uncomfortable. Her banter with Nilp on Day 1 would be an extremely easy place for a wolf to hide. I wish she had provided some reasoning for a vote for Holby yesterDay. Shoot, I'm not done, and I have to go. Shoot, shoot. Hopefully I'll be back later.

[Durelin]

Alas, I somehow managed two whole days without anyone voting for me.

Okay, here are my suspects :

Rune
Holby
Anguirel

Possibly Taliesin.

I have some dirt on them.

Wow, I'm being consistent.

I almost put Saucie on that list, but...

Originally Posted by Taliesin

This is the same feeling I have. It's mostly just a scary thought, what if he isn't an innocent as everyone seems so eager to think.
He was the one pointing out the possibility of Jenny being the hunter, which he gladly pointed out. Knowing it was safe to kill her because she didn't suspect him at all, it might be his doing aswell. He's certainly bold enough to pull a trick like they did on Eomer and completely fits the way a wolf would act as I see it. Then again, he's always one of the most influential people around.

I know, but that's how Saucie always is. Everyone tends to trust him, and a few people just want to get rid of him because he's scary because people want to trust him. But I'm not thinking of lynching him right now. Why? Because of the Jenny thing. Why would he have brought the Hunter thing up if he (as a wolf) was planning to get her that night? He would've left it unspoken, I imagine, unless he was being bold. Possible. But right now, I doubt it.

[Taliesin]

Time has to come vote

++Glirdan

For reasons in post #257

[Gurthang]

Diamond - The Saucepan Man (Saucepan-1)
Rune - TGWBS (Saucepan-1, Guy-1)
mormegil - Firefoot (Saucepan-1, Guy-1, Firefoot-1)
Firefoot - Durelin (Saucepan-1, Guy-1, Firefoot-1, Durelin-1)
Taliesin - Glirdan (Saucepan-1, Guy-1, Firefoot-1, Durelin-1, Glirdan-1)

Originally Posted by mormegil

This came when he voted for me. Odd, I don’t remember ‘gunning’ for Glirdan yesterday. In fact I simply mentioned him in passing that I thought he was a wolf. That’s not ‘gunning’. If anything you could say that I was gunning for Anguirel, who insultingly calls me ‘special’.

Okay, I went back to get quotes and stuff to refute this, but I couldn't find any. Which seems really weird to me, because I seem to remember you saying more stuff about Glirdan than you did, and usually my memory about that kind of thing isn't so off.

Actually, I'm beginning to think you're innocent. Somewhat because I was wrong about the above, but more because of the way you attacked me for it. That's the vengeful way you usually act when you're innocent, as somebody else has mentioned already.

Holby, as far as my 'suspicious late votes': I get off work half an hour before Day ends. So I am able to vote late and so I do, rather than vote 8 hours early. But both days when I get here the votes have worked so that the people who are likely to get lynched are people who I don't suspect, and so really didn't feel like voting for. I did become somewhat suspicious of you because of your vote, but didn't have time to look back at you, and so voted for morm.

Now, I've got over two hours to look back through stuff. Primarily at Guy and Holbytlass, but I'll see if I can spot anything else.

[Durelin]

Hmmm...I forgot about Gurthang. That's something I should worry about.

Unfortunately I have to vote now....

++Rune

[Glirdan]

Okay, Taliesin has brought about things about me that I'd like to clarify (mostly for him but for others who have been wondering it as well):

So far Glirdan has been trying to take lead of our village and point us in wrong directions. On Day 1, he made a vote for Kath, based on her being a slave, so basically with little to no reason at all, and vanishes for the rest of the day.

Wow, I'm taking initiative. I think that would be an improvement more than anything. And even then, I don't think I'm trying to "lead" anyone. I'm voicing facts and my opinions, which is what we're supposed to do, right? I vanished because I had studying to do for my exams (there's only one left so bear with me).

Day 2 he comes back saying he isn't suprised Eomer got killed at all, why not? Because it was you all along who planned? I was rather suprised they killed Eomer and with me most of the villagers.

I was actually debating in my mind over the Night who the Wolves victim would be. I was debating either Saucy or Eomer because both are very intelligent players and would be a danger to the Wolves (which is a reason why I'm uneasy about Saucy as well. I'll get to that in a miute). And I think you should go back and correct yourself, there were quite a few who weren't surprised so...

In his analyses, he brings up about point about me, which in all fairness can be described as suspicious. But when he analyzed Rune, he found nothing suspicious, yet added him to his list of suspects nontheless. Same story goes for Lhuna and let me quote this part:

Nothing truly suspicious, but still a suspect? He is trying to point us in a direction we shouldn't be looking!
Later on, he claims Rune is a more vocal player and therefore claims him again quilty without a good reason as Rune later on says he isn't really a vocal player at all ( maybe Rune is just too modest about himself ).

I understand your confusion behind this and I take full credit for not explaning myself about it earlier. What I meant was that out of the five who voted Eomer, I found them the least suspicious, yet they were still suspicious looking in my eyes. I realise I'm being contradictive but that's the way I am.

That's all I really had to adress.

Now, on to what I want to say about Saucy. This guy is crafty, intelligent and when needed to be, sneaky. That's why I'm very wary of him. He makes me really nervous anytime I play with him because I never know what to think of him. ToDay, when I found out he was still alived, I was quite surprised. I was sure that the Wolves would have gotten rid of him. But then I thought about it and after going back and seeing Jenny's Gifted hints, I thought that it makes sense the Wolves would want to put off killing him because they might have found a Gifted. However, that still doesn't make me less uneasy about him. If anything, it makes it worse. There's something that does not sit right with me about that Man. I swear, if he's not dead toNight, I will be quite surprised and really suspicious.

[The Saucepan Man]

I have not been much help today, for which I apologise. Too much fine sport to be had on the magic box.

I really have little more to go on than when the Day started and have had little time toDay to look at the options. So I shall stick with my ongoing suspicion of Holby, which has not dimmed.

+ + HOLBYTLASS

I realise that this further widens an already broad field of candidates, but I think that no bad thing.

I shall try to be of more use tomorrow, assuming that I survive 'til then.

[Caranlondien]

First, a recap of voting so far:
1. Diamond-->SpM (SpM 1)
2. Rune-->tgwbs (SpM 1, tgwbs 1)
3. mormegil-->Firefoot (SpM 1, tgwbs 1, Firefoot 1)
4. Firefoot-->Durelin (SpM 1, tgwbs 1, Firefoot 1, Durelin 1)
5. Taliesin-->Glirdan (SpM 1, tgwbs 1, Firefoot 1, Durelin 1, Glirdan 1)
6. Durelin-->Rune (SpM 1, tgwbs 1, Firefoot 1, Durelin 1, Glirdan 1, Rune 1)

Now, mainly for my own sanity (because otherwise I'm always going back and finding I've missed someone and jumping all around changing my suspicions), a list of passengers and my feelings about them:

Durelin - Seems quite normal to me so far. Nothing has peaked my suspicions.
Holbytlass - I could see her being a wolf. I have no past experience to compare her behavior to, though. She's made a lot of short posts, allowing her to maintain a presence without saying much at any given time. However, that could just as easily be the behavior of an innocent.
Findëasëa - Seems normal to me as well. I don't think she's a wolf.
Kath - Someone mentioned they thought Kath would involve herself more as a wolf. However, I have a distinct memory of her being a wolf flying under the radar, and successfully so, in that I never suspected her. I think it's worth going back over her posts.
Lalaith - Doesn't seem suspicious to me, but I've barely noticed her, so I don't want to discount her too easily. If I have time, I may go over her posts too.
Diamond18 - It's possible she's a very bold wolf, or a wolf who honestly has RL issues. But I think it's more likely she's innocent.
Firefoot - I'm still sort of nervous about her, but not as suspicious as I was yesterDay. I don't think she'll get my vote toDay; her recent posts have seemed innocent enough.
Gurthang - Still wary of him. Something just seems different about him, but I can't really pin it down to anything he's said. It's a gut feeling.
Rune Son of Bjarne - Another one I know nothing about. I really don't know what to think about him, and with other more pressing suspects, I don't plan to vote for him.
Mormegil - Making me nervous. I've seen him as a careful wolf in the past, but I think he could also be a bold wolf.
Taliesin - Reminding me of a certain wolf-newbie an ancestor of mine came across. He's on my radar, but not overly suspicious-looking.
Saucepan Man - I forget who it was, but someone said that the only reason I trust SpM is that he's been unfairly lynched in the past - not so. I trust him because he's seemed helpful and sensible. Perhaps you misinterpreted my joke about how I never trust him when he's innocent, so maybe my trusting him means he's guilty? Anyway, I still trust him.
Anguirel - He doesn't look suspicious to me. Won't be voting for him toDay, in any case.
Glirdan - I've been a little concerned about him, but not overly suspicious.
[the guy who be short - what concerns me is his relative silence. I'm used to a more vocal tgwbs. Could be RL, but also could be wolvishness.

Suspects
Holbytlass
Kath
Firefoot
Gurthang
Mormegil
tgwbs

EDIT: cross-posted with Gurthang and Durelin, added latest vote

[Anguirel]

Firefoot, I see I was somewhat mistaken about your vote of last evening's lack of reasoning. Sorry. That slightly shoots my suspicions of you below the hull, though I might still think you a wolf from a different perspective!

Admiral Sauce's unwillingness to kick the "race" into gear might be interpreted as a desire to avoid committing himself. But it's not enough in and of itself to prod him into my suspicion list particularly.

[Glirdan]

Okay, I have to vote but I don't know whom for. Gah! I think I'm going to go with a gut suspicion and vote

++morm

He's really been worrying me. He's being to bold and there's something that's not sitting right with me about him. Now I must depart. See you on the morrow...if I survive...