Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXIII: Journey to Hy Brazil

[Gurthang]

Well, that was not good. If I had voted a few seconds earlier, I would have saved morm, only to lynch our Seer! Not good options. I was not happy when I crossed with Kath and knew that morm was gone. I had become fairly convinced of his innocence. I only wish Holby could have seen that before she had posted.

Originally Posted by Taliesin

And Holby insisted we lynch Saucepan Man, or did she merely hint he's not to be trusted, I'm not sure how to interpret that message.

I think she just said she was unsure about him. And truthfully, I'm inclined to think him innocent. Which is good, because I think he's going to be around for a few more Days. With a decent number of known innocents, the wolves are probably going to kill them at Night. So Saucepan will survive whether he's innocent or not. I think he is, especially since he was going after Holby. I think a wolvish Saucey would have just killed her at Night rather than try to get her lynched.

I was going to look at Guy and Glirdan again, but now I'm unsure about everything. I might go back and see who I was suspicious of earlier. Maybe I'll do better trusting my gut rather than my brain. At least now I know who not to lynch.

[Firefoot]

I think he is, especially since he was going after Holby. I think a wolvish Saucey would have just killed her at Night rather than try to get her lynched.

Why would Sauce-wolf - or any wolf - want to lynch Holby during the night? She had been attracting plenty of suspicion during the Days, and not being overly helpful to the villagers (unlike, for example, Eomer, who really was just too daunting for them to leave alive). Although I do agree with the sentiment that Sauce is probably innocent. (Scary thought: he's the innocent lover and knows no more about the wolves than most of us do... I wonder how much the wolf lover has told the innocent lover. Hm...)

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Why would Sauce-wolf - or any wolf - want to lynch Holby during the night? She had been attracting plenty of suspicion during the Days...

True. I was saying that if he thought she was the Seer, then he would have killed her on Night 3, not tried to lynch her Day 3. Although, if he was innocent and thought she was the Seer he wouldn't have tried to get her lynched at all. So I guess he probably didn't think she was Seer at all. So pretty much what I just said (in my last post) doesn't even make sense.

Although, I feel like he's innocent, but I really have no reasoning behind it. Well, as bad as my reasoning has been so far, that's probably a good thing.

[Diamond18]

Am I the only one who thinks Saucey looks very Wolfish??? So Wolfish that I will scream if someone else is lynched toDay. Before Holby's reveal I was merely suspicious but now I'm in the mood for a Valier style campaign. (Yes, I know I don't have Valier style instincts, but that's not going to stop me, ha!)

There's a lot of this going around: "Saucepan is dangerous as a wolf yes, but if he's innocent he's too great an assest to the village to lynch."

Balderdash! The dangers of Wolfman Sauce (Or Saucepan Goose!) far outweigh the merits of Innocent Sauce and the above argument for keeping him around is case in point. Yes, we won't be able to wait to see if the Wolves will kill him at night -- they've got their next 3 night kills pretty well taken care of, now that all the Gifteds are gone. If we wait 3 whole days to lynch Wolfman Sauce, well, we may never get the chance.

I don't mean to say that Sauce isn't a good player when innocent. But face it, Villagers have won games without him before so saying he shouldn't be lynched just 'cause of that isn't much of an argument.

Okay. So, not that I'm in full dudgeon I'm going to go off and do a Saucepan Man analysis. Considering this, it may be a long time before I resurface. But, happily, I've got nothing to do and nowhere to go-oh-oh (I wanna be sedated!) so, I can....

I don't remember what happened with Diamond.

That's because I never said why I didn't vote.

I overslept. But I have an excuse -- I'd been awake for nearly 48 hours prior to actually sleeping that night. When I finally got up the next morning I had to go to work, and worked until after the deadline. Yeah, yeah, I know. My ability to schedule my life is pretty much bat guano.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Diamond

Am I the only one who thinks Saucey looks very Wolfish???

Quite possible. I for one has not seen much that could make one of my suspects.

Originally Posted by Diamond

Balderdash! The dangers of Wolfman Sauce (Or Saucepan Goose!) far outweigh the merits of Innocent Sauce and the above argument for keeping him around is case in point.

If I was doubting wether he was innocent or not I would agree with you, but normaly I don't kill people because they will be dangoures as wolves. At least not on that reason alone.

Originally Posted by Diamond

I'm going to go off and do a Saucepan Man analysis.

With all the other beeing said, I want to add that I of course would conisder voting SPM. But it will take some pretty convinsing arguments. . .

[Durelin]

Odd.

Well, I'm guessing Holby didn't dream of any wolves. She didn't seem to go after anyone in particular.

Hey...now we don't have to worry about lynching any Gifteds...

[Durelin]

(Scary thought: he's the innocent lover and knows no more about the wolves than most of us do... I wonder how much the wolf lover has told the innocent lover. Hm...)

Just goes to show you how important communication is in any relationship...

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

If I was doubting wether he was innocent or not I would agree with you, but normaly I don't kill people because they will be dangoures as wolves. At least not on that reason alone.

Then why did you vote for Eomer on Day 1? Before he had even posted? Maybe I'm being a little nit-picky here, but that makes you seem very suspicious to me.

Right now, my suspects include Guy, Glirdan, and now Rune. I'll say my secondary list would be Lalaith and Diamond, since I thought them worth mentioning as suspicious earlier in the game. I don't know how I'll vote, but it will most likely depend on what happens toDay. I don't think I'll have time to look back through very much of what's been said.

I also am intersted in seeing what Diamond says about Saucepan.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Gurthang

Then why did you vote for Eomer on Day 1? Before he had even posted? Maybe I'm being a little nit-picky here, but that makes you seem very suspicious to me.
Saucepan.

hahahaha

I knew this would happen, altough I did not think it would come from you Gurthang. By that comment you just secured your self a spot on my list of suspects! Not because you suspect me, a lot of people suspects me and it something would be wrong if no one did that. The thing is that you jump on that random day 1 vote. A vote wich really had nothing todo with who I thought could be dangoures, no my reason was pathetic. I have said this before, but that vote was cast because I was in a hurry and one seemed as good as the other. I did not even think about that Eomer had not said anything yet. For you to jump at something like this is not only very nit-picky, but also wrong, as there in reality is no contradiction in my actions.
Weird and suspicious they may be, but there is no contradicton and for to jump on that seems like a petty wolf atack.

Another person on my list today has to be Anguriel, otherwise I would actually contradict my self. According to my own theory he would be a wolf if Mormegil turned out inoccent and until yesterday I would have cast my vote emidialy as I found out about Mormegil's inoccens. The thing is Mormegil almost cleared Anguriel in his last post. . . This makes me doubt a bit. I will have to give it a bit more thought before I choode who to vote for, but Ang. is one of the main candidates.