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Old 07-01-2006, 09:14 AM   #1
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Roa is reasonable as always, but that's just the scary part in her: she can pull it when she's evil. I always suspect Roa, almost always. I guess there has been one game where I trusted her...
*bats eyes* I love you, too. Was that the game where you were the Mod and knew I was innocent? Or the Game where you were the ranger and I was the seer? Or the game where you were a wolf who figured out that I was another wolf/the EW?
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And yes: we have Valier in the camp. It would not be a bad idea to just hear who she feels is a wolf and vote for that person. I might opt for that possibility I will come back in the next hour or three... to respond to people who disagree with me. too...
My experience with Valier says that she needs a Day or two to really get onto the groove of guilty and not guilty. And also, her behavior will get more and more telling as to whether she is guilty or innocent. Be careful- if she's a wolf she can use this power against us. I wouldn't be opposed to testing the theory, later on. Not now.

Moving on, my two big suspects at the moment are Form and Glirdan. Form's rant about Day 1's may have been an attempt to clear the air and move everyone along, but he didn't believe that to be the case. He said in his very first post:
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People will disagree with me....

....I will come back in the next hour or three... to respond to people who disagree with me.
He knew that his statements would be a source of argument and discussion in the village. It could be an innocent rant of someone who's stubborn and fed up, or it could be a clever smoke screen meant to confuse and distract the village. Itend toward the later because of this:
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Well, I being a creature of habit, and habits being what they are... my hatred of Days 1 sort of devoloped into the approved version of Formendacil-in-Werewolf, and, not having anything better to do, I was content to let it be. I am a great respecter of tradition, Werewolf or otherwise, and it would be a shame just to let a tradition die because you all wanted it... and the core reasons for disliking Day 1s remain quite entrenched in my mind.

But if you want to know the REAL reason.... ordo, gifted, or wolf, I like tweaking people's noses. Especially the people like Morm and Roa who are so terribly tweakable...
The first paragraph looks like a rapid back-pedaling from his stance, which had gained him so much attention. I don't like back-pedaling; it's usually a predecessor to dodging and jumping, two very wolfish traits.

And in the sencond. he said himself that it was just to "tweak" people. Here he has stated that he had no purpose in his first post other than to stir up the people who like Day 1's. He openly declared that he was intentionally leading us into the pointless discussion.

Would a wolf intentionally draw so much attention to himself? Possibly, if he is intent on making Day 1's as useless as he claims they are. And now he's already starting to fade out again.


As for Glirdan, it's been said about six times, but his sudden jumping on the Form suspicion seems rather odd, even if he claimed it was random. However, Glirdan does little things like this often when he is innocent. (I've never seen him guilty, so I don't know if he does it then, too.) He has a bad habit being lynched on Day 1 for this sort of thing when he's just an ordo. I want to leave him alone for now.

I have to leave, and I won't be back on by deadline.

++Formendacil

I won't let you lead the village astray. And maybe I'm being nitpicky, but nitpicky is what catches those little details that point out wolves.
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Old 07-01-2006, 10:01 AM   #2
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I was waiting for the first person to jump on board the case against Glirdan, whose only crime was to set the ball rolling against that pesky curmudgeon Formendacil. It was construed as 'Glirdan is jumping on Form-suspicion'

I don't buy it. I think Mormegil is trying to invent a decent reason for his Day One vote. And let's be honest: Glirdan is about as lynchable as they get. A good idea, but I see it for what it truly is: fangéd skullduggery. String him up!

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Old 07-01-2006, 10:33 AM   #3
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I hate to do this, but I must vote and not much as been said for me to go on since my last post. At least not much to help me make a better choice.

++ Glirdan

His jumping on the Form thing is just setting off alarms in my head. I really hoped it wouldn't come to me doing this, but I can't get one again. So I have to go with who I find the most suspicious.

But I'm still holding on to my earlier Form/Nogrod/Roa theory from earlier. I think two might be wolves trying to lead us all down a path of their choosing. I don't want to act on this yet, which is why I didn't vote for one of those three.

I'm sorry this is all so rushed.
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:19 AM   #4
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Glirdan, Morm, and Form all seem perfectly normal to me right now. By which I mean Form is always annoying, Glirdan almost always makes a "random" vote day 1, and Morm always takes it personally that people don't like being told what to do. What worries me is the silence from Valier, whom I think we all know is NOT a silent werewolf player. Does she know we started?
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:31 AM   #5
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Sorry villagers!!! I know I have not been too helpful or talkative today, but as I said in the discuss thread today is a very special day for some of us.... Thank you Noggie dear for having confidence in me and my feelings. I may be back before the vote, but I may not,so today is not a good feeling day for me, but I promise tomorrow I shall get busy catching us some wolves. I will read over what has been posted before I vote and hopefully be able to post a baddie, not baddie list today.

Oh Hi Jenny!! I'm here, but not for long. Sorry 'bout the quietness
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Old 07-01-2006, 12:12 PM   #6
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Baddies

Kuru
Eomer
Form
Morm
Roa
Mith

Goodies

Kitanna
Jenny
Noggie
Mac
Me
Glirdan

Sorry I don't have time for my thoughts on each. I may be back to change my vote, I may not.


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His first Day rants are always a good cover for a Wolf.
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Old 07-01-2006, 12:32 PM   #7
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Valier, while I have undeniable evil tendencies, I resent being lumped together with 5 others on the 'Baddies' side when there are but 3 wolves.

Formendacil, your stance is just so puzzling. There's oodles to think about here. You just have to wait until quite near the end of Day One.
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Old 07-01-2006, 12:36 PM   #8
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Why do these football matches have to go to overtime & penalty shoot-outs all the time? (And have both metaphysically & poetically the "wrong results"!)

And it greatly distracts werewolf-playing...

A quick one first.

Kitanna has made me quite alarmed of her. Her way of bringing this quite ungrounded (surely it's thinkable) "loose theory" of Form, Roa & myself just in passing (but repeated) - and in the end not acting on it, but taking the "safe vote" for Glirdy seems quite wolvish to me. So she wishes to cast suspicion over some active players (Roa and me) linking them with somene who has been suspected already (Form), and then actually votes for another largely suspected one (Glirdy), cleaning her tracks nicely.

Back soon as I get to read a few things more carefully.

EDIT: X-posted with a couple of posts
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Old 07-01-2006, 12:54 PM   #9
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I'm going to go ahead and vote...

++ Eomer of the Rohirrim

Mainly because he's not been around...much, and I can't think of anything better to do. I don't really want to join the Signore Formendacil bandwagon (although, mama mia, if he does turn out to be a wolf that will be awkward). I'm even less comfortable with the Signore Glirdan campaign.

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Old 07-02-2006, 02:58 PM   #10
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Oops. Sorry.

Glirdan voted Formendacil (Formendacil 1)
Macalaure voted Nogrod(Formendacil 1, Nogrod 1,)
Mormegil voted Glirdan (Formendacil 1, Glidan 1, Nogrod 1)
Roa voted Formendacil (Formendacil 2, Glirdan 1, Nogrod 1)
Eomer voted Mormegil (Formendacil 2, Glirdan 1, Mormegil 1, Nogrod 1)
Kitanna voted Glirdan (Formendacil 2, Glirdan 2, Mormegil 1, Nogrod 1 )
Valier voted Formendacil (Formendacil 3, Glirdan 2, Mormegil 1 Nogrod 1)
Kuru voted Eomer (Formendacil 3, Glirdan 2, Mormegil 1, Eomer 1, Nogrod 1)
Jenny voted Kuru (Formendacil 3, Glirdan 2, Mormegil 1, Eomer 1, Kuru 1,Nogrod 1 )
Formendacil voted Glirdan (Formendacil 3, Glirdan 3, Mormegil 1, Eomer 1, Kuru 1, Nogrod )
Nogrod voted Kitanna (Formendacil 3, Glirdan 3, Mormegil 1, Eomer 1, Kuru 1, Kitanna 1, Nogrod 1)
Mithalwen voted Glirdan (Formendacil 3, Glirdan 4, Mormegil 1, Eomer 1, Kuru 1, Kitanna 1, Nogrod 1)

Any other mistakes

That makes a lot more sense now. I was wondering why Formendacil declared himself and thought it a bit foolish. Anyway most of the thoughts stay the same. Mithalwen still could be a wolf knowing that she was 'saving' the seer to kill an innocent, either way it was sixes for the wolves because they get to kill the seer at day or night.

Oh, I challenge the wolves to have the courage to leave me alive for at least one more day. Unless you fear a challenge.
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Old 07-03-2006, 07:59 AM   #11
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#12

In character goofiness and then a defense of day 1. Not a big deal, not very telling.

#39

She's here! she says. Hellos and thanks-for-noticings. Not a big deal, not very telling.

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Ok, I know this is in the post, but here, again, is her good and bad list. I have added italics for known innocents, underlines for dead people.

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Baddies

Kuru
Eomer
Form
Morm
Roa
Mith

Goodies

Kitanna
Jenny
Noggie
Mac
Me
Glirdan
Now this is a day 1 list, I don't know how significant it is, but I want to compare it with the one we got today.

Her vote for Form is based on the idea that his rant could be good cover...nothing more concrete than that?

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I'm not keeping her notes, just generally sorting. You can check the post and see if I'm right.

Baddies
Eomer
Kuru

Not-Sures
Mac
Mith
Jenny
Kitanna

Innocents
Morm
Noggie

Seems to be consistent, at least.

I'm inclined to think Val innocent as of yet. At the very least I have no reasons not to. Don't like her voting reasons, but I don't expect long explanations from Val. Oh well.
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