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Old 09-08-2006, 06:59 PM   #1
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Out of the corner Boromir reappears and everyone is startled for a second. "I'm not going to be so harsh sounding on you Kath," he said slowly, "as our Naria is over here. If it's of any comfort to you I actually learned a lot from your summary, Kath. What may not be so comfortable is you have quickly rised up the suspicion chart. You do supply commentary, but it seems rather flawed and like your grasping at straws, which gets my eyebrows raising. Let me explain....

'The biggest is that you note some sort of trio between myself, Nogrod, and Mac, and somehow throw Thinlomien also into the mix. And some how there has been this carefully choreographed fight on Day 1 between the wolves. Now the wolves do start off at an advantage having a whole night to plan their actions, but there's only three wolves, and perhaps I just got confused, but it seems like you are suggesting there is this grand conspiracy with five people (myself, Menel, Thinlomien, Mac, and Nogrod), and over the night the wolves set this up.'

'I'm rather curious as to how you think this is some great choreographing work of wolves. I can't speak for the others, but for myself, I thought I clearly defined my reasoning for suspecting Menel. His play of attacking people based off their occupation left a mark on my mind. I went back and searched through my family's ancient papers, lo and behold my disgruntled great uncle from Dor-lomin, wrote that he spotted a wolf because that person attacked an individual who wasn't the most moral person. That's when it clicked in me, that I'm not too fond of people going after other's occupation as I think it shows a sense of desperancy, to just try and throw suspicion at others because they don't have the same values as you. Which I remarked we're not here to lynch those with lower morals than say you, Kath, but we're here to lynch night killers. And Menel's behaviour greatly reminded me of the affair with my great uncle, which is why I felt suspicious of him.'

'As far as me being in some grand scheme with Menel and four other people. I'm not trying to get connected with anyone, if I happen to agree with you I will say so. I felt like Mac had brought up very reasonable points, as well as Nogrod, and that's why I agreed with them. Perhaps there comes a time where we don't see eye-to-eye, I don't know.'

'Bottomline is, this seems strange to me Kath and as if you are trying too hard to throw a bunch of people under the bus, so to say. There's only three wolves, but you've thrown multiple people together into working and creating this scenario of suicidal Menel, and a whole group of other people creating this choreographed scenario yesterday. Again, problem is there's only three wolves, one of which is dead, yet you have lumped together several people as working together, as if you are attempting to throw multiple people under the same boat of working together hoping others will follow up.'

'And again, I question why would intellegent wolves even do such a plan? Why set themselves up at a disadvantage after starting out with an advantage? There is no sensible reason that I can think of as wolves sending out one of their own to be suicidal and get themselve purposefully lynched on Day 1, it just doesn't make sense. Because this strategy sets the remaining wolves at a disadvantage and to get one of there buds purposefully lynched on Day 1 just doesn't seem semi-intellegent at all. Why go out and start with a lynching one of their own when an innocent could have easily been lynched on Day 1, as what most typically happens? No, wolves start creating these whacky scenarios when one of them is getting into trouble, I don't see it as something they would do when they start the day off at an advantage and could easily get an innocent lynched, especially when it is Day 1 and there is absolutely nothing concrete to go off of.'

'With that being said, Naria you have now raised some caution. I felt that you likely seemed innocent at the start, but quite frankly this attack of Kath's summary seems odd. Possibly trying to throw suspicion around, because clearly Kath did put in her own commentary throughout the summary.'
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:46 PM   #2
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Diamond regained consciousness in the morning, and learned of the death of Menel with grim satisfaction.

"One dead werewolf," she said. "Excellent. I shall now have to cast my mind back over everything he said, even though I was unconscious during some of it. You may wonder how this is possible, well, I wonder too, but whatever."

She turned to Kath, "I appreciate the posting, it makes for an interesting read, much clearer also than most everything else. Still, it makes me slightly worried, since we are both Hobbits previously acquainted with each other, and if people know you like I know you, they know how devestating your analysis can be when you are using it for ill deeds."

She walked to the bar and helped herself to some day old pancakes, feeling that the age and coldness of them made the consumption of them less gratuitous.

Casting her eye on Nogrod, she observed, "I can't put my finger on it, but you still worry me. You talk long and pretty about the actions of others, calling on people to speak up and such, but that is all I really get from you and it isn't much. Seems a mite unfair to always be calling upon others to speak when that's most all you yourself are saying. Aye, I know I haven't said much of substance but then, at least I admit it. However, your vote for Menel at a critical time speaks well of you."

She heard her name mentioned in passing by Mac:

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Diamond didn't give any real contributions to our cause. Her vote was for no reason. It's weird that Menel commented on her fun accusations and told her to go wolf-hunting instead. Why would he ask this of an innocent?
She snorted. "No one around here tells me what to do. Period. I'm a rebel and I've never ever been any good, I'm a rebel and I never ever do what I should. I mean, you think I'm into ascectism for the morality of it? Pshaw. I'm in it for the rebellion. Ask the other Hobbits... my parents don't speak of me. Anyway, as to why Menel said that, you will have to ask him in the afterlife."

"But," she continued, "speaking of those being coached, Volo today strikes me as very smooth for a newbie. This may speak well of his general intelligence, or it may indicate he's being helped along by a furry teammate. Time will tell."

"Eru willing, I will stick around and be able to contribute more to the discussion before I vote, but I must warn you that I feel another fainting spell coming on and do not know how long I can last."
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:39 PM   #3
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"Brrrrhmmm!" the meloncholy fir sounded, greeting the inn from her window. "I did have more introductions yesterday than you did young Thinlomien, yes" Valesse started "But as you will note we did not hear from the one we were both worried about until the very... very... end..." Raising her head once again, Valesse continued to address the clients.

"I will ask you to listen to your bird again and note that I was not suspicious of Menel, tiny Kath... but suspicious of Naria and Valier... but seeing Menel's true form now I regret mentioning it..." She heaved a sigh which blew over a stein inside "But even a tarnishing truth now is better than letting a misunderstanding fester."

"If you remember, I state my theory of the boldness of wolves..." The entwife looked pained, feeling foolish "I implied that lycanthorpes are trying to blend in and not stand out... I am- at least- a third wrong."

Slowly her eyes focused on the counter of the inn and in reached Valesse's long woody hand. In her fingers the fir captured a number of apples and brought them outside for inspection. "Yes... I am ashamed that I concluded that such creatures would be silent, when their duty is specifically to be tricksy like the orc. Hrmmm!" The ent placed each apple high in her branches, decorating her foilage like a lady would apply her earrings and continued with a far more greavous expression:

"I apologize for my foul assumptions of you, Naria, but unfortunately they remain... though much fainter than before." Valesse switched windows "I do believe that you will be a deal more active today which would negate my point in observing you." With a chorus of creaks and groans the entwife gave a short but warm smile before frowning once more. "With how my words were construde I will likely be interested in Kath."

"Oop!" Curiously the entwife looked suprised, her apples had all fallen from her branches and were she able, Valesse would be the color of a red wood tree. Gathering her adornments as quickly as a respectible ent might, she excused herself.
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Old 09-09-2006, 01:16 AM   #4
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After Naria heard Kath out she meandered over to the wall where Kath's parchment hung. "Hmmm, well whadya know...there are a few comments." She looked back at the plump Hobbit and quickly offered an apology, "I am sorry dear I seemed to have missed your thoughts with my first read." She gave Kath a nod and turned her thoughts to other things.

"Valesse, no need to apologize....afterall are we all not suspect." Naria bent down and picked up two of the apples that had fallen and handed them up towards the Entwife's gnarly 'fingers'. Once again her attention was brought around, this time to the collector of corpses. She gave Boro a tap on the shoulder and begged the question, "How did you come to the conclusion that Kath has five 'suspects'? After I read through her note....again, I have not found such things. You must forgive me for I am a simple sort....I am just a warrior and may not be as astute as you may/or may not be....so if you would, please explain."
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:32 AM   #5
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"Ah you forget the simple Werewolf ploy, they know they are doomed so they will vote for another werewolf to save it, and it would be foolhardy for werewolves to vote together when they can simply kill the person they wish gone"
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:44 AM   #6
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Having had her breakfast, Thinlómien opened her mouth again: "Kath, dear perian, I didn't like your summary. It made me - like some othe people, it seems - wary of you. You're throwing suspicion to all directions you can. Calm down a bit, little lady."

Then, she turned her eyes to the searcher of Death and Plague. "Boromir, I didn't like your reactions to Kath's summary either. You present the hobbit maid's opinions in a pointed way and thus change the meaning of her words a bit. As the warrior-Naria said you're drawing a bit too quickly this wolf quintet of yours. Surely if Kath suspects four people (plus dead wolf Menel) that does not make them all wolves in her opinion. (Except Menel the dead wolf of course.)"

Now, she eyed both the hobbit and the plague-addicted daleman. "Kath herself names three primary suspects, not more. Nogrod, Boromir and myself."

Thinlómien went and filled her cup with apple juice. "What is interesting here, is that all of the three of us - especially Nogrod and Boromir - seem to be enjoying a general position of trust in the village at the moment. I don't know yet what to think of this."

Seeing the innkeeper was not present (and her mother neither), Thinlómien took a hairbrush and started brushing her long brown hair in the table.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:14 AM   #7
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Macalaure returned from the kitchen with a full stomach and a peaceful expression on his face. Yet the peacefulness ceased as he saw the untrustworthy bunch that he was stuck with sitting in the bar, speaking nothing and giving each other strange looks. Each of them looked more suspicious than the other.

"Over in the kitchen I overheard some talk of a wolf-plot to sacrifice one of their own. I do not believe this. Keep in mind that wolves not only kill people to satisfy their hunger and to be winning in the end, they also kill for the sheer fun of it. Being dead, on the other hand, is pretty much the end of all fun for them.
I agree, it's a possibility. Still we should look for the more probable baddies today.

Kath has spoken, at last. I don't agree on all she said, but I will rest that for now. I also don't fully agree on Boro's accusation of her, so regarding Kath I'm as smart as before.

I notice that Diamond still hasn't come up with something profound. The vaguest of theories against Nog and Volo, weird comment on my words towards her...
Diamond is either a very stubborn and death-defying innocent - or a very stubborn and death-defying wolf. I have a feeling we will find out pretty soon.

Same holds for Gil-Galad.

How do you people get the idea that Menel suspected Naria? He continually defends her in his later words. Unfortunately, I fear this can be interpreted in both ways."

Macalaure slowly walked to a bench and laid down.

"And now, if you excuse me, myself would like to do a little nap - too much good food Wilwa has left behind."
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