WWJ XI: When World's Collide

[Gil-Galad]

sigh... fine, end my torture here, actually i'll even help you!! the sooner you vote me off the better!

--Macalaure

++Gil-Galad

(not sure about retractable votes)


Gil-Galad - Ordinary Villager, may the villagers rest in peace at the injustice.

[Gil-Galad]

also, you do know that you are leaving your discussions about whose the wolf and voting me out instead, a unnessercery side-step.

also, after my lynching i would look at everyone that voted for me, because a wolf would probably go with majority to save himself if he gets accused for voting for an innocent, then the wolf will bring up the other villagers that voted.

[Glirdan]

The villagers gathered at the end of the Day to vote, their spirits fell. They knew that the probability of lynching an innocent was higher than finding the final Wolf. But they gathered to vote anyway.

When Wilwa gathered the votes, it was Gil who was to be lynched. When they looked around to find him, he had disappeared.

"Where did he go?" said an annoyed Boromir. "I want to get his body burried ASAP."

They searched the entire village. Finally, they went back to his restaurant and found him. He had put a gigantic cauldron on a giant fire and had went in himself. He had burned to death. His body was charred and full of blisters. The reason why is because he forgot to put the lid on when he got in.

The villagers walked away, utterly disgusted that one would take their own life.

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Night 1
Meneltarmacil (wolf) - Squished into a pancake on Day 1
JennyHallu (innocent) - Killed and her body stolen on Night 2
Diamond (innocent) - Hanged on Day 2
Valier (innocent) - Killed, ripped to pieces and hidden in her study on Night 3
Valesse (wolf) - Burned to a crisp on Day 3
Gil-Galad (innocent) - Killed himself in a pot on Day 4

Alive

Naria
Nogrod
Boro
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Night 5 starts. I need a name from teh Wolf, Ranger and Seer. Sorry once again for the lateness.

[Glirdan]

Boromir sat up in bed, startled from a dream he was having. "That's two Days in a row!" he cried exasperatedly.

He got up and went to his kitchen for a drink. It was then that he heard a deep snarl behind him.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

The villagers gathered the next morning, dreading what they would find. They counted and found that Boromir had disappeared.

They walked over to his house and entered, quaking with fright. They entered and saw that the place was completely trashed. His bed was ripped to shreads, there were deep gahes in the wall.

They searched and searched the house, trying to find Boromir's body, but they couldn't.

They went out and searched the yard.

Out of no where, a sharp cry rent the air. Everyone rushed around the house to find Naria sprawled spread eagle on the ground. She had tripped on a hump in the ground.

"Wait a minute," Sleepy said slowly. "This hump of earth looks freshly dug up!" he grabbed a nearby shovel and started shovelling away the earth.

Then everyone let out a horrified scream. There in the bottom of the hole was the body of Boromir, and in his open hand lay his eyes which had been gouged out. Boromir was the village Seer.

~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~

Dead

Glirdan (mod) - Mauled to death on Night 1
Meneltarmacil (wolf) - Squished into a pancake on Day 1
JennyHallu (innocent) - Killed and her body stolen on Night 2
Diamond (innocent) - Hanged on Day 2
Valier (innocent) - Killed, ripped to pieces and hidden in her study on Night 3
Valesse (wolf) - Burned to a crisp on Day 3
Gil-Galad (innocent) - Killed himself in a pot on Day 4
Boromir (seer) - Killed, burried and eyes gouged out on Night 5

Alive

Naria
Nogrod
Sleepy Ranger
Lommy
Macalaure
Volo
Kath

Day 5 starts. Start posting.

[Kath]

Kath was awake early this morning, and though there was no one about yet to hear her words (other than wilwa), she thought she'd say them anyway.

"Well, guess it's time to go trawling back through Boro's posts for clues. We won't find the guilty one because if he'd dreamt of the final wolf before yesterDay he would have revealed, but it might give us some innocents. I must say that while it doesn't do us any good Gil being dead, I am glad that he was innocent. I'd have hated to get things that wrong. That being said, now that I'm a little more secure in my abilities again, I think I'm going to continue to keep an eye on Lommy and Sleepy.

I'll do Boro for now though, and I hope others will as well, everyone finds different things in analyses and we need all the innocents we can get! We may still be 6:1 up at the moment, but it may not last."

[Kath]

Having gone over most of the things said the past few Days Kath spoke to the still empty room. She had, however, noticed an incredible ability among the villagers to hear things while miles away, so had no qualms about putting her ideas down now.

“Alright, here is the Boro analysis I said I'd do. If I repeat myself anywhere from previous speeches I apologise but then I was looking at him as a wolf not the Seer, so I have to re-evaluate, and that means I have to go back over everything.

Boromir:
Day 1:
Post 121: Immediately suspected Menel so it is possible he’d already dreamt of him.
Post 133: Again goes against Menel quite strongly and then looks at Mac as well, though less seriously.
Post 141: Shows support for Nogrod (if he is the man from Harad). Still finding Menel most suspicious (the continued attack on him does seem to suggest Boro had dreamt of him, it’s hard to be that sure that fast). Thinks either Lommy or Naria is suspicious, the guilt of one depending on the innocence of the other.
Post 149: Finds Di suspicious for her vote and says he will want an explanation, possibly an indication of his next dream.
Post 159: Reiterates his suspicion of Menel.
Post 163: Votes Menel based on his suspicions all Day.
Post 169: Pops back up but has nothing to say.

Day 2:
Post 174: Just makes his presence known.
Post 180: Not suspicious of Mac, Nogrod, Lommy, Valier and Naria. Obviously he couldn’t have dreamt of all of those but it is possible that a dream is somewhere in there. If it’s Valier it’s of little help though. Suspected Valesse, Di, Volo, Gil, Sleepy or Kath and of course may have dreamt of Valesse, which again wouldn’t be much help now.
Post 185: The confusion over my summary, but within that seems to clear Lommy, Mac and Nogrod. Begins to suspect Naria.
Post 194: Small argument with Lommy but doesn’t offer up any suspicion of her.
Post 200: Went on to clear Gil and add Naria to his worried list. Said he’d vote Kath, Di or Valesse. He has good reasoning for me and Valesse but little behind Di, which makes me suspect she was his next dream.
Post 206: Agrees with Nogrod about keeping Kath and Lommy around. Finds Di most suspicious but thinks Valesse most likely to be a wolf.
Post 210: Votes Di because she had already been voted for while Valesse hasn’t. This makes me wonder if maybe he hadn’t dreamt of Valesse, or surely he’d have gone after her more strongly.

Day 3:
Post 218: Passes judgement on Valesse pretty strongly, I’m pretty certain he’d dreamt of her by this point. Clears Volo, but he hadn’t mentioned much suspicion of him the Day before so it seems an unlikely dream.
Post 219: Defends himself against Naria, who had jumped on him pretty harshly, just as she did with me. It seems overly bold and attention getting playing for a wolf, but it could be nerves showing through, she could be worth looking at.
Post 225: Little more arguing with Naria, absolutely clears Nogrod, so he is a possible dream too.
Post 235: Begins his attack on Valesse, got to be a dream with that level of surety.
Post 246: Defends himself against me this time and then continues his attack on Valesse, finally voting for her.
Day 4:
Post 261: Obviously didn’t dream of the wolf as he doesn’t go after anyone, also didn’t dream of Gil, but picked up the case against him anyway.
Post 263: Tells Volo a revealing Seer will be the real one.
Post 272: Clears Mac, Nogrod and Volo. Now, if he did dream of both Menel and Valesse that only leaves two dreams free, so if two of those are certainties one is not. He has reasoning for Mac, but more just feelings for Nogrod and Volo, which makes me think the latter two would be the dreams (if any of them are though, it is possible this was all just guesswork). Is ok about me but not sure, so I doubt that was a dream. Unsure about Lommy and Naria so presumably hadn’t dreamt of them. Finds Sleepy and Gil most suspicious.
Post 280: Finds Gil more suspicious than Sleepy due to his behaviour.
Post 282: Adds clarity to his previous post.
Post 285: Votes Gil with admitted unsurety.

Now, I’m assuming Boro has had four dreams, but, toDay’s narration mentioned that Boro had been disturbed from his dreams two Day’s (presumably Night’s) in a row, so is it possible that he’s only had three? Going by that worst case scenario, that means he likely only dreamt of one innocent, because I’d be pretty surprised if it turned out he hadn’t dreamt of both Menel and Valesse.

If that is the case, I’d take the final cleared list of Mac, Nogrod and Volo into question, as only one of those could definitely be innocent, and it may be that he dreamt of none of those. Out of the three I am not sure who I would believe the one dreamt of to be. It seems like it should be Volo, as Boro did such a sudden U-turn on him from one Day to the next, but the Night the dream would have been done was the Night I believe he dreamt of Valesse so I’m really not sure about that. Plus, Volo is worrying me slightly, I will look at him properly later and see if I can work out why. Boro felt Nogrod and Mac innocent from the beginning, which actually makes it unlikely he dreamt of either, though he might have to make sure.

Basically, I’m stuck. All I can figure is that he did dream of the two wolves we have lynched, did not dream of the final wolf, and dreamt of at least one innocent. Who that innocent is I really have no idea! Perhaps though that is better, as it means the wolves don’t have a specific target for toNight. On the other hand it might be worse, we still have a Ranger, and they might be next in line to die. If we lose two more innocents and neither is the one the Ranger protected he/she might have to reveal if only to get back the numbers advantage. Until then though, silence would be prudent.

Now, all this is pure speculation. I hope everyone else looks over all of Boro’s posts as well, because we might have more to go on that way.

As for my suspicions, they lie with Lommy, Volo and Naria, and I will look at all three toDay if it’s possible. Right now though I must get on with my work!"

Kath left, hoping more people would have arrived by the time she got back.

[Nogrod]

"I heard you Kath!" Nogrod said, coming in as Kath was about to leave.

"You speak well my sister and I and I have had to rethink a few things meself was sure about just a moment ago. Just waitaminute..." Nogrod tried to concentrate and then finally spoke. He almost seemed sober this morning.

Boro clearly seems to offer us a Seer-list of innocents in #272, just look how the speech is made: the innocents bolded on their separate lines and the rest in-text etc. But why should he mix unknowns with the knowns and thence baffle us? So I tend to believe they are true innocents, at least for now.

That is based on the following:

One of the wolf kills were made by reason and not by a dream, but that I think very likely, and would say that Menel was the one caught without a dream. If you look at it closely, Boro's first suspicion of Menel was the third real post of the game #121 (not counting Wilva's post). So before Boro's first quite non-substantial accusation there were only a post by Menel (purely random accusation to open the game) and one by Gil ("let's eat some pancakes"). Then Boro's second post #133 consisted of a counter-rant against Menel's answer to Boro #123. Typical first posts. Then it was I and I who took to making a more serious argument over Menel in #139. And those basically were the arguments by which Menel was brought to the grave. So very possibly a death without a dream.

Your interpretation of the narration seems to me flawed. I thought

Boromir sat up in bed, startled from a dream he was having. "That's two Days in a row!" he cried exasperatedly.

meaning that he had been tried to be killed already the last Night, which would sound very probable indeed. Anyway, I think it's quite standard stuff that there are no major hints in the narrations.

So Boro has had three dreams of innocents? I come back to my earlier question: why would he have made the post #272 in the way he made it and still include actually known and just hunched innocents in it? That would be just weird.

And at least to my eyes the choices look quite reasonable indeed. Myself, Maca, Valesse(after Volo had suspected her earlier as Boro said himself) and Volo. If you look at the game dynamics that makes sense.

Were it that way, we should be optimistic right now. It might be a game of 1/4. And the Ranger would prove to be a real help... Just think about it. And I mean it. If you others find flaws in this, let's forget my ideas, but at least now I'm quite convinced."

With that Nogrod fell to the chair, just too sober to stay awake one minute.