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That's the problem with the world today. You have people "championing" the rights and interests of people they have no heartfelt interesting in representing at all or raising similar notions just for the sake of media attraction.
The best way is of course to ignore them. Even the act of debuking them adds to their influence and power as these folks capitalize on such sensations. Tolkien referring to Germanic laws as absurd and rubbing it into Germans (why would they ask if he had Aryan blood??) by stating that the Jews were gifted were pure gems IMO.
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From the Silmarillion Quote:
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Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
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I think quite many of you miss the cultural aspect here. Tolkien wanted to write a mythology for England. English(wo)men are white.
Usually temperature and thus skin color don't vary much in one small region (north-western ME) and as the story concentrates on this smallish area, it only makes sense that humans don't vary really much in skin colors. (Europe is a relatively small area too. You don't find black, yellow or red skinned people in Europe. Like in north western Middle-Earth in Europe hair and eye colors vary though.) Tolkien just chose the white-complexion area because the tales he mostly used were from this area/ethnicity, like was the people he wished to write a history and legend for. Quote:
And is the appearance of the Avari who lived in south and east described anywhere? Maybe they were black?
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Just a quick point picking up on what Elu Ancalime quotes from Tolkien's letter about his German publishers' enquiry:
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That bit about the elves have always made me wonder.
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The Kinslayer
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A weird thought came to me the other day. If you notice the photo page in the barrow donws, you would notice that most of the members pictured there, are mostly white.
I wonder if that has something to do with the fact that people don't find it weird or curious that the Elves are only white. But then again, perhaps it has nothing to do with it.
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Shady She-Penguin
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I don't think that has anything to do with the skin colour of the Elves. Honestly can't imagine eg. a black person reading the book and throwing it to the waste paper basket because s/he discovers the elves are white... Of course we must admit the fact that LotR is more entwined with western cultural tradition than for example chinese or north african cultural tradition and thus it's more widely known and loved in western countries (in which most people are caucasian).
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