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Thinlómien · 10-04-2006, 01:37 AM

I'll be a blind gardener maid.

Thinlómien · 10-04-2006, 02:01 AM

Valier, I think we could have four thingies. Though the baddies will maybe be more difficult to catch this time, I'd still rather have a too challenging game than a too easy one.

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Originally Posted by me

I'll be a blind gardener maid.

Yes, I'm aware how many jokes will spring from that...

Meneltarmacil · 10-04-2006, 05:37 AM

When you said this will be "a game of bodysnatchers," Valier, did you mean that the Things would turn everyone they killed into fellow Things? If that's the case, I really don't see how the villagers can possibly win, as the Things would just keep replacing their dead. Though I'm probably mistaken on something...

JennyHallu · 10-04-2006, 05:59 AM

The Things choose a person, and one Thing at random is killed and replaced with that person.

Another thought: Can the Ranger be turned into a Thing without warning same as the Seer? Because if so, will either really be helpful?

Even a Seer's dream will mean nothing unless they dream of a Thing.

I guess I don't much like this body-snatcher idea. The Weaver could be fascinating, but with the way the body-snatchers work I don't think that role will get a good test: if roles change nightly, then anything the Weaver knows is meaningless.

Valier · 10-04-2006, 10:17 AM

hmmm this all has made me think.... Well when I first though up this game I realized that with the body snatching this would be a more difficult game, But I thought adding the weaver and Seer would balance that out. The Weaver can use their gift wisely to help the village if they are smart about it, that is why I was letting players volunteer for the role. The Weaver can re-Weave anyone they want, as many times as they want. Yes the Seer and Ranger can be turned into a Thing without notice, but what notice could I give without giving away too much? If the Seer and Weaver worked together they could find out the village very quickly. I am not so sure we should add another Thing to the mix. Remember every night a Thing will die and be replaced by a villager. So every day the ambiance of the village may change, which should give the Weaver and Seer something to think about. I can have the Seer and Ranger die like the Weaver when they are voted for by the Things....would that be better? I am not so sure we should have 4 Things. I will leave this for awhile and let you players decide what to do.

I still need occupations from
Gil-Galad
Rikae
Nogrod

Macalaure · 10-04-2006, 11:10 AM

By having a dead Wo... er, Thing every day we also have a dead Thing's post to study every day. That's an advantage. When the Seer is turned into a Thing we will probably never find out who it is and that's a major disadvantage. I think it's better if s/he just dies like the Weaver. I don't see a problem with the turning of the Ranger.
Except this, I think we should just play like it is now. It's going to be a lot of fun, even if something doesn't work out as it's supposed to.

Valier · 10-04-2006, 11:46 AM

After some thought and discussion I have some things to say..... Ok so the Seer and Weaver when they are chosen by the Things have a 1 day reprieve. They die slowly over the day period and die at night fall. They may use this time to share their info with the village if they chose. But remember what the Seer and Weaver may re veil may not still hold true, because they could have dreamt of someone and they were innocent and the next night they could have been changed. This game is based on the movie "THE THING" (with Kurt Russel), there is supposed to be confusion and doubt all through the village. No one knows who could be a Thing at any given time. The Ranger can be changed into a Thing, the Seer and Weaver cannot be changed. They just die slowly over the Day phase. There will only be 3 Things, remember when the village kills one, there are now only 2 and then 1, they do not get to make "new" Things, they only replace themse4lves. EX; Village lynches a Thing during the day. Now they are down to 2 Things. Those 2 Things pick someone to body snatch, and that villager just replaces one of the 2, they do not bring the Things back to 3.

This is my final verdict!! I will not change any of the Roles again. I will however answer questions, but I agree with Mac in that we should just try the game as is and see how it goes.

10-04-2006, 01:37 AM	#1
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I'll be a blind gardener maid. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

10-04-2006, 05:37 AM	#3
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	When you said this will be "a game of bodysnatchers," Valier, did you mean that the Things would turn everyone they killed into fellow Things? If that's the case, I really don't see how the villagers can possibly win, as the Things would just keep replacing their dead. Though I'm probably mistaken on something... __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

10-04-2006, 05:59 AM	#4
JennyHallu The Pearl, The Lily Maid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my luxury Barrow, snuggled up in a pile of satin pillows, eating fresh fruit. Posts: 1,628	The Things choose a person, and one Thing at random is killed and replaced with that person. Another thought: Can the Ranger be turned into a Thing without warning same as the Seer? Because if so, will either really be helpful? Even a Seer's dream will mean nothing unless they dream of a Thing. I guess I don't much like this body-snatcher idea. The Weaver could be fascinating, but with the way the body-snatchers work I don't think that role will get a good test: if roles change nightly, then anything the Weaver knows is meaningless. __________________ <=== Lookee, lookee, lots of IM handles! Last edited by JennyHallu; 10-04-2006 at 07:41 AM.

10-04-2006, 10:17 AM	#5
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	hmmm this all has made me think.... Well when I first though up this game I realized that with the body snatching this would be a more difficult game, But I thought adding the weaver and Seer would balance that out. The Weaver can use their gift wisely to help the village if they are smart about it, that is why I was letting players volunteer for the role. The Weaver can re-Weave anyone they want, as many times as they want. Yes the Seer and Ranger can be turned into a Thing without notice, but what notice could I give without giving away too much? If the Seer and Weaver worked together they could find out the village very quickly. I am not so sure we should add another Thing to the mix. Remember every night a Thing will die and be replaced by a villager. So every day the ambiance of the village may change, which should give the Weaver and Seer something to think about. I can have the Seer and Ranger die like the Weaver when they are voted for by the Things....would that be better? I am not so sure we should have 4 Things. I will leave this for awhile and let you players decide what to do. I still need occupations from Gil-Galad Rikae Nogrod __________________ grand return?........ Last edited by Valier; 10-04-2006 at 10:21 AM.

10-04-2006, 11:46 AM	#7
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	After some thought and discussion I have some things to say..... Ok so the Seer and Weaver when they are chosen by the Things have a 1 day reprieve. They die slowly over the day period and die at night fall. They may use this time to share their info with the village if they chose. But remember what the Seer and Weaver may re veil may not still hold true, because they could have dreamt of someone and they were innocent and the next night they could have been changed. This game is based on the movie "THE THING" (with Kurt Russel), there is supposed to be confusion and doubt all through the village. No one knows who could be a Thing at any given time. The Ranger can be changed into a Thing, the Seer and Weaver cannot be changed. They just die slowly over the Day phase. There will only be 3 Things, remember when the village kills one, there are now only 2 and then 1, they do not get to make "new" Things, they only replace themse4lves. EX; Village lynches a Thing during the day. Now they are down to 2 Things. Those 2 Things pick someone to body snatch, and that villager just replaces one of the 2, they do not bring the Things back to 3. This is my final verdict!! I will not change any of the Roles again. I will however answer questions, but I agree with Mac in that we should just try the game as is and see how it goes. __________________ grand return?........ Last edited by Valier; 10-04-2006 at 12:49 PM.

10-04-2006, 11:10 AM	#6
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	By having a dead Wo... er, Thing every day we also have a dead Thing's post to study every day. That's an advantage. When the Seer is turned into a Thing we will probably never find out who it is and that's a major disadvantage. I think it's better if s/he just dies like the Weaver. I don't see a problem with the turning of the Ranger. Except this, I think we should just play like it is now. It's going to be a lot of fun, even if something doesn't work out as it's supposed to.

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