WWJ XII: "Oh the tangled web we weave..."

[Eonwe]

Yes, yes I know. I am backsliding...but please don't hold it against me. I promise this isn't going the be the presidence for the rest of the game.

Well, I can't possibly read the thread in half an hour, so I'll just cut to the chase and do my thing.

The fifth person on the list is Naria (sry bout this) and that's the number I chose...sooo....

++Naria

Of course, I hope this wouldn't be my regular mode of choosing a vote victim. But, obviously (I'm assuming) there is no useful information to vote off of, so this is the best I got...

Again, sorry, but it was a busy day, what with midterms coming up, an all that jazz...

[Rikae]

Hey, you're not the only one with midterms coming up, you know.
But SOME of us are responsible enough to honor our commitments to a game instead of indulging in study.

[Valier]

The village was in turmoil. Everyone was to be suspected. Many got right to the point and voted for a lynchee. Others waited and listened and others still waited too long.

I say we kill Thinlomien!!! I am sure she is a creature hiding amongst us!" Yelled Macalaure early on. " No fellow villagers it is Jenny we want. She is a Thing." Shouted Nogrod." You are all wrong, it is Macalaure, Lynch him!" Shrieked Kitanna. " I agree with Macalaure on this one." said Menel approaching to join the group now congrigated in the town square. "I say Lommy needs to go!" "I" Yelled a few more villagers from the crowd. Argue ensued and speculations were high, but in the end... "So Thinlomien it is then! remarked Rikae. "You shall pay for what you have done!" Shouted Naria.

Thinlomien's eyes bugged out at the mentioning of her name from so many of her fellow towns people. "How could it possibly be me?" She shouted frantically.
" I can't even see!!!! Please do not do this!!" Her screams echoed on for ever it seemed, but the majority had spoken. They quickly gagged Thinlomien, and bound her feet and hands. " Now if there be a Thing in there, We shall get it out or you shall die in the process, either way we get to know."
Someone whistled a low, eerie whistle that brought two horses into the square. "We shall force the Thing out!!" someone screamed. They tied her legs to one horse and her hands to the other.
A single tear fell down the cheek of the blind garden maid.
A snap of a whip, a startled scream from the crowd.
Thinlomien was no more. Well not whole anyways. Her body now severed at the middle was dragged out of sight, but no Thing emerged.


Dead villagers

Valier- Milkmaid- Killed by Thing- Mod
Thinlomien-Blind gardener maid-Pulled apart by horses on Day1- Innocent


Live villagers

Gil-Galad- Friendly neighborhood window cleaner
JennyHallu- Prophetess
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna- Hermit
Naria- Herbalist
Glirdan- Town musician
Briseis- Seamstress
Rikae- Cheesemaker
Macalaure- Village Doomsayer
Folwren- Jack the Blacksmith
Rune son of Bjarne- Weaver (not the actual one)
Nogrod- GoatHerder
Meneltarmacil- Former pirate
Eonwe- Miller


Night 2 has now begun. You have 24 hours. Day will start at 10:00pm CST (GMT-6) Tomorrow.

Things start pming. Please send me your nightly switch and a # each (1,2,3)
Ranger send me your nightly protectee
Seer send me your dream.
Weaver send me your "Weave".

[Valier]

The night wore on. A storm like no other was brewing. Everyone huddled in their houses afraid, that they would be next. But one brave soul sat up. They would not let others die. They would die to protect the village. suddenly,they were startled from their vigil, by a noise from outside. They raised their weapon and went to take a look. "Oh it is you! What are you doing out on a night like this? Are you a Thing here to take the life of an innocent?" "No. Are you?" retorted the other. "well if you aren't and I know I am not then lets go and have a drink." But the other sprung bringing DARNESS and DEATH. The towns Ranger was no more.

The village awoke the next day to huge snow piles everywhere, but there was no mistaking the large spot of crimson in the middle of the street. There in the snow lay what appeared to be Folwren or what was left of her. Her face had been horribly mangled from within,as if something had escaped....


Dead villagers

Valier- Milkmaid- Killed by Thing- Mod-killed on night 1
Thinlomien-Blind gardener maid-Pulled apart by horses on Day1- Innocent
Folwren-Jack the blacksmith- Face mangled on night 2-Innocent


Live villagers

Gil-Galad- Friendly neighborhood window cleaner
JennyHallu- Prophetess
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna- Hermit
Naria- Herbalist
Glirdan- Town musician
Briseis- Seamstress
Rikae- Cheesemaker
Macalaure- Village Doomsayer
Rune son of Bjarne- Weaver (not the actual one)
Nogrod- GoatHerder
Meneltarmacil- Former pirate
Eonwe- Miller

Day2 has begun. Things stop pming. Village start talking You have 24 hours.

[Rikae]

What have we done? Poor Lommy! And to think I switched my vote because I thought Mac was innocent.. At least if we can lynch a thing today, her death will not have been in vain...

And to think that Jack was a thing all along, when none of us suspected him! And now we are without our Ranger, too *wrings hands*. What do we have to go on now?

It appears we're meant to look for clues in Nogrod's words from yesterday (but meant by whom?):

Originally Posted by Nogrod

My primary suspect is still Jenny. She has to vote still... and I know the danger I'm in with this. But if she machinates my death you shall know whom to kill the next Day so there is no problem there. I may die, but you know then who to blame. You will know the truth with the very message that reveals you the situation toMorrow morning.

and this:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Rune dont make that mistake... *my keyboard suddenly started acting in it\s own way and I will have to close the thing to get it working normally again... if that is possible*

Think about the whole of the Day, not the way the thingies try to twist it at this point, knowing I\m going to be off/line soon & right now... And please read what I said> it is not only that Jenny knew the rules, there was much other things more pressing than that *#58 and#73*. They were the principal reasons...

Sorry this machine doesn\t allow me to select any part of text right now. *The right pointer of the mouse is not working( I try to cokme back with the @last word@ before I go to sleep...

I'll leave it to more experienced players to decipher them. I've already caused enough trouble with my clumsy efforts.

[Volo]

Now you have made a big mistake lynching Lommy, I don't get what was so scary with her... Far more suspicios is Mac and especially Nogrod! His playing style last day was no better than mine father's, who was cursed. I don't see Nogrod making enough sense to be of any use, by his yesterdays performance, he began his normal agressive approach only when I noted his strange behavior.

Also he tried to stay out of bandwagons even knowing that Jenny won't be lynched, as if he wasn't really trying.

I know that usually Nogrod is a real gift for the village, but I'd risk lynching him. Pity he can't be a Fenris Thing anymore...

I also have a feeling that Mac's innocent, I'm not sure, but Nogrod's attitude is somehow making me think about lynching Mac, but I bet that's a bluff.

About the things, it makes sense for them to capture players that are respected and play well. So this is a game, where the not so skilled players have to fight double-hard. Exept for the orginal two things there is a new thing, that would be either a skilled player or a person who didn't say anything last turn. Me talking about something everybody understands, which isn't usefull.

I'll be away for about five-six hours, depends.

[Volo]

I have also thought about a possibility that Nogrod, wasn't a thing last day, but today he most certainly is. The things would want him first, plus his talk about the ranger might mean that he was the ranger. So he's a thing today, whatever he was yesterday.

At least one from the ranger-discussion has to be a thing (exept Folwren), because the ranger would want to clear the stuff and as we know the ranger is now a thing.
Nogrod could have drown the Rangers attention by such means, they usually show up. (like Boro's and mine grandfathers (seer and ranger), they were both so proud that they congratulated themselves a few times)

Even if Nogrod were a Weaver, he might have got information about Jenny being a Thing, but then he would have invented better reasons why to lynch her and would have started a bandwagon.

Ok, lesson ended. Bye

[Macalaure]

Lommy's dead, dead and innocent. An innocent Lommy is usually an asset to every village. Really, really bad. And I was even the first one to vote her...

*Note to self: don't go by your hunches, stupid*

And then Folwren was a Thing?? Now that's something I didn't expect. And she even defended me yesterday! Shame on you, Foley, shame on you!


I have some comments about what happened yesterday after I left.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Why does Mac say he agrees with Nogrod, when Nogrod has said that Mac looked suspicious?

I don't think in terms of "he thinks I'm suspicious, so I think he's suspicious". Some things I said yesterday can be interpreted suspiciously, so he had every right to. What he said made sense.

...until then. Just after I voted and left, Nogrod started saying things that make me raise both my eyebrows today. Chance? Never!

I already thought it weird yesterday that he went after Eonwe so early. So Eo was a wolf the in the last village. So what??

Originally Posted by Nogrod

A bit suspicious of:
Macalaure
Glirdan
Gil-Galad

Actually suspicious of:
Volo
Eonwe
Jenny

There's the short-spoken Gil-Galad, the often silent Eonwe (who hadn't even posted then), the relatively new Volo, and Glirdan who is known to have hunches that, well, don't really work out all the time (no offense intended, Glirdy, really) and often gets lynched for them.

We already said that the things will want to change stronger players at night. This leaves them with the less strong players as favourite day lynchs. Nogrod here puts suspicion on 6 villagers, at least 4 of which one could regard as not-so-strong (again: really, really, no offense to anybody, I mean that).
Jenny can be considered an easy target as well. Her foremothers always tended to get a little bit nervous when under suspicion.

He puts Folwren as a sure innocent and I don't know what to make out of that.

Then there's Nogrod's infamous vote-reasons post.
First off: why?
Why talk about everyone's reasons for voting at that time? He already voted Jenny, so usually I'd expect him, or anybody, to a) try to get others into voting Jenny too, b) try to get others into not voting for him (he was very concerned about that later), or c) bring up points that are new.
This post does neither.
And the way he does is - my goodness. He's not giving the reasons for most at all! He often just quotes something out of the vote-posts, and it's rarely flattering. Menel's right in his criticism. I've seen somebody post like that before (Roa, Hithlum, wolf).

I also found his fear to be lynched a little over the top.

I don't think Nogrod was the ranger yesterday. No way in Arda would he have asked questions about his role in public when he just could have pmed Valier for it. What is possible, I think, is that he laid out a lure for the real ranger, and that probably s/he accepted it in a way. Jenny? Maybe. I have to think about this more.


I actually feel bad about suspecting Nogrod so much, as he's not here today to defend himself. Normally I would say: forget about him, look for somebody else today, we can lynch him tomorrow in honour. But if he's a thing, he might not be here tomorrow, so I can't afford this opinion.