Demons from the Ancient World

[Saurreg]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Ungoliant was not created by Melkor: "The Eldar knew not whence she came." Shelob is the last of her children, I believe and as I recall it isn't known for sure that Shelob dies in LotR. Does this place her higher than the Balrog, who was destroyed?

No one really knows where Ungoliant came from, though the Silmarillion hinted that she might have entered the world during the influx of the Ainur.

An anomaly like Tom Bombadil?

[Bêthberry]

The relevant passage about Shelob in LotR is as follows:

Originally Posted by The Choices of Master Samwise

Shelob was gone; and whether she lay long in her lair, nursing her malice and her misery, and in slow years of darkness healed herself from within, rebuilding her clustered eyes, until with hunger like death she spun once more her dreadful snares in the glens of the Mountains of Shadow, this tale does not tell.

Now there's a downright refusal to provide "the purposed domination of the author" in the story. Some may liken that passage to the 'cup half empty/cup half full' interpretation, but I prefer simply to go with the ambiguity of the passage and recognise that Tolkien decided to leave the reader a bit of a tease.

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Now there's a downright refusal to provide "the purposed domination of the author" in the story. Some may liken that passage to the 'cup half empty/cup half full' interpretation, but I prefer simply to go with the ambiguity of the passage and recognise that Tolkien decided to leave the reader a bit of a tease.

Beebs! I would have thought that you of all people would know Shelob's fate.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Fordim Hedgethistle

Beebs! I would have thought that you of all people would know Shelob's fate.

Well, as unexpected as this may seem, Fordy mostly in Books I discuss Things Canonical rather than Apocryphal.

But such distinctions don't pertain to avatars, so there's my remembrance now.

It was all a bit florid, eh?

[Alcarin]

What about Shelob?

Edit: Ok, forget that post. I just found out Shelob was actually of one Ungoliant's children. ( She had alot )