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Old 11-09-2006, 01:46 PM   #1
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I can't say I'm very convinced about CoD either being a wolf or the cobbler...there's always, always the possibility of the very foolish villager. And obviously we cannot think anything good of the intelligence of the aristocracy, though we do not speak of it aloud...well, to their faces.

And I am well aware that I risk being seen as CoD's partner in crime by stating anything that might be a casual defense, but I'm fully prepared to take such a risk because I just hate seeing a lynch wasted...even a Day 1 lynch. There should be at least some sense to it... Though perhaps the sense here is getting rid of a confusing and so far completely unhelpful villager if not a cobbler or wolf.


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Yes, the wolves do like to get out there and get the village turning (right now, for me, Nogrod, Anguirel, and CoD would fall under here). However, I wouldn't put it past at least one of the wolves to say very little (if anything at all) on Day 1...while one or both of their buddies go out and get their hands dirtied.
Of course it's still a possibility that a wolf might not appear at all on the first Day, but the odds are in favor of all three being there...'twas really all I said.

Anyway, I agree with the three you have listed as being ones who have 'gotten the village turning' (I do like that way of putting it ), and I find Ang the most suspicious of those.

Why? Well, I'm going to reverse his concept of the debonair wolf, and say that at least one of the wolves will simply have to remain more cautious, in my opinion. All three taking one approach just doesn't make sense to me, and is not a pattern I have experienced (really I think it impossible, if only due to the fact that werewolves seem to have personalities as well). And Ang comes across to me as someone who has 'gotten his hands dirty' enough by being definitely present and pointing out different things, but never really getting down into meaty accusations. This could be said of more than just Ang (probably can be said of myself), but I have more of a bad feeling toward Ang. His vote actually makes me feel less suspicious of him, though...I find it pretty reasonable, especially for a Day One vote, and not as easy as simply voting for a more popular choice.

Though now that I think about it, Boro comes across that way as well, remarking just enough to stay involved, but not really saying anything for certain...he seems standoffish. This is not the usual Boro to me, as I am used to lengthy (and more to the point, in my opinion) analyses. Still, it's Day 1...how much is there to analyze other than CoD, who has successfully engaged most everyone's attention? And he may be short on time, like many seem to be.

Really there's not enough to go on with those two, but, if I had to vote now, it would more likely be for Ang...he has just the right amount of debonair, but a good dose of cautiousness as well, I think.

And I have not ruled out voting for CoD to get rid of his insanity...and hope that he might be the Cobbler or maybe even an extremely bold (really wants to be 'Fenris?') wolf.

I find Gurthang's hasty vote a bit unnerving, as well as Rune's, but I've never felt random Day One votes to be necessarily of any matter.

Luckily, I do not have to vote yet.

Edit: I apologize for that being so long! I hate long posts...I'm such a hypocrite.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:58 PM   #2
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Greetings, all. Quite interesting reading, for a day one. At the moment the only person who leaps out at me it Anguirel. He seems to be flinging half-hearted suspicion everywhere. First, being quick to agree with Lommy that CoD seems "funny," then declaring Durelin the most suspicious, then saying Lommy's early vote seems wolfishly safe, then saying he finds Durelin and Gurthang the most suspicious but is going to vote Diamond because... um... why? I'm not clear on that. I hate it when someone voices suspicions and then does a 180 and votes for a person they've hardly mentioned, and who is not in danger of being lynched. Nice way to spread dirt and raise suspicions without it showing in the vote count.
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:12 PM   #3
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Durelin, you're last two posts may have saved a vote from me at least for today. Looks quite observant and a bit helpful to me, if I may say so. You have correctly noticed that I have not been my usual self...due to various factors such as lack of time, lack of sleep, and lack of substantial stuff to comment on. Honestly, everything I've said is everything I felt was worth commenting on...the rest seems rather typical Day 1 junkishness that has been more prevelant than I'm used to seeing. I'm going to have to vote sooner than I anticipated as well.

The comment just doesn't sit right with me (which you have correctly noticed)...oh and Durelin, you could be an innocent by standard that was caught in Farael's trap...but if Farael turns out to be a wolf, by no means does this absolve you of wolfishness either. It seems either 1) it was planned from the beginning (meaning at night), or 2) One of you two was having some wolvish fun.

Since your last post has been of some help and Farael has disappeared from existance, I'm going with:

++Farael

Edit: x-posted with CoD
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:17 PM   #4
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Have you noticed the same pattern I have? Many times people get to suspect others because those have first suspected that oneself. Kind of "retaliatory" stuff?

But if we think for the best of the village, we shouldn't fall for it. There's only something to be gained for the wolves if our reasoning is based on that kind of issues. Remember, most of us get our votes wrong most of the time, sadly but truly. It's a reaction that seems most natural (and somewhat reasonable) for a wolf but not very constructive for a villager.

So f.ex. (I'm not sure if I have all the cases here) Durelin was ready to "watch" Boro more closely as she interpreted Boro to have suspected her (wrongly, if I understood it right). CoD told that myself and Naria were at the top of his suspicion-list with Lommy because we had suspected (and Lommy also voted) for him. Di suspects Ang now as he has voted for her...

I'm not saying that I suspect all of these people to be wolves / cobblers, but I do peg, hold your horses in situations where someone suspects you. Retaliating does not help us. You all know that the bitterest fights are almost always performed between two innocents...

That one aside, I think both Durelin and Di have a point here: Ang should be looked at more closely. His performance toDay could be interpreted as a very wolvish one. Funny though: Durelin and Di are the exact first persons he suspected...

EDIT: X'd with CoD and Boro
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